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Topic: [ANN] æternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] - page 38. (Read 274748 times)

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The current vote concerns the so-called Block Reward Initiative (BRI), i.e. the community is voting on whether to give between 0% and 20% of mining revenue to developers. Those funds will go entirely to development and the goal of this vote is to guarantee the sustainability and continuous development of the æternity blockchain.


No guarantees since they have no obligation of reporting expenses, no way for participants to control on what they are going to spend funds and how careful they are going to spend. If you give them this cut they literally free to write a hefty paycheque to themselves just like if officials will decide how much bonuses they need for "serving and protecting" taxpayers. If you have hefty continuous money flow you don't take care of how wasteful your expenses are, you just spend.

Instead of giving away funds to this team on their sole discretion we must push them to introduce a process similar to Monero funding system.
Those who want to do development must write a proposal and community will vote for it, pledge money into a smart contract and after each milestone completion remit money by approving payment. It gives a control to the community over money flows.

Up until now, the æternity team has respected all the commitments it made to the community, as long as they were achievable in the given circumstances. We said it several times and we'll say it again - none of those funds will go to the non-dev team. They will be solely dedicated to the continuous development of the project.

One more thing - if the community should vote on every dev project before releasing the money, that would delay the process too much.

Best,
The AE Team
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003

The current vote concerns the so-called Block Reward Initiative (BRI), i.e. the community is voting on whether to give between 0% and 20% of mining revenue to developers. Those funds will go entirely to development and the goal of this vote is to guarantee the sustainability and continuous development of the æternity blockchain.


No guarantees since they have no obligation of reporting expenses, no way for participants to control on what they are going to spend funds and how careful they are going to spend. If you give them this cut they literally free to write a hefty paycheque to themselves just like if officials will decide how much bonuses they need for "serving and protecting" taxpayers. If you have hefty continuous money flow you don't take care of how wasteful your expenses are, you just spend.

Instead of giving away funds to this team on their sole discretion we must push them to introduce a process similar to Monero funding system.
Those who want to do development must write a proposal and community will vote for it, pledge money into a smart contract and after each milestone completion remit money by approving payment. It gives a control to the community over money flows.
full member
Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
æternity - scalable smart contracts
Hey everyone,

Over the last couple of weeks, æternity's core dev team have been busy preparing for the first on-chain vote. They set up the mechanism that allows splitting the block reward recipients as part of the BRI!

Plus, they have finished the implementation of the generalized accounts and have continued working on the Virtual Machine and state channels.

Check the latest dev update below:

GENERALIZED ACCOUNTS, STATE CHANNELS AND THE BLOCK REWARD INITIATIVE

Best regards,
The AE Team
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Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
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Guys,

What are we voting on here exactly?

I cant find any info

1. How to actually Vote.
2. What we are voting on.


1- Please provide step by step guide no how to vote.
2- Explain it to me, like im 5. What the vote is for.


Thank you.

PS: From what i see in above link, when you vote, you disclose your $AE balance?  Because, thats, clearly, not a good idea for anyone holding large amount.  Seems like a good way to attract hackers.   The balance should be hidden, this alone would make me not Vote.

Hello,

The current vote concerns the so-called Block Reward Initiative (BRI), i.e. the community is voting on whether to give between 0% and 20% of mining revenue to developers. Those funds will go entirely to development and the goal of this vote is to guarantee the sustainability and continuous development of the æternity blockchain. You can find the blog post announcing the BRI HERE.

You can check the discussion on the matter in the Forum , including video guides on how to vote - find them in this playlist.

Your AE balance is linked to the weight of your vote - the more AE tokens you hold, the more your vote weighs.

Best regards,
The AE Team
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Guys,

1- Please provide step by step guide no how to vote.
2- Explain it to me, like im 5. What the vote is for.


It's so clear now how crooked devs exploit that governance BS. It's like 5 years old vote in referendum about giving away his future.
newbie
Activity: 113
Merit: 0
Guys,

What are we voting on here exactly?

I cant find any info

1. How to actually Vote.
2. What we are voting on.


1- Please provide step by step guide no how to vote.
2- Explain it to me, like im 5. What the vote is for.


Thank you.

PS: From what i see in above link, when you vote, you disclose your $AE balance?  Because, thats, clearly, not a good idea for anyone holding large amount.  Seems like a good way to attract hackers.   The balance should be hidden, this alone would make me not Vote.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
They call it a "governance" lol. Look how she want to shut me up on forum where I am trying to reach as much auditory as possible and convince them to not vote against their own financial interests:





(the only "insult" is that I called them criminals, because if somewhere ripoff is happening it's a crime)

They have been banning infidels all the time, those who raised concerns about block reward months ago got banned almost instantly on telegram, forum, reddit.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003

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Maybe happy bagholders can confirm your point? It went from 60K sat. to 8K.

My proposal is simple, you remove current poll entirely and start full blown hype promotion in TRON scam style.

Regarding my language, I treat every shitcoin/ICO (including bitcoin) as a junk and scam, all people involved into craptocurrency development I treat as criminals and human trash, even those who have bought it are searching for a greater fool so also must be treated as co-criminals (including even myself lol) so don't expect me to use soft language when I am writing to people of such category.

We don't expect you to be soft, but we expect you to be civil. This community has rules against profanity, swearing and insults. So, please stop offending everyone including yourself.

Best,
The AE Team

Your community does not exist. You are a bunch of scammers, criminals who pretend they are team of developers.
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Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
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Hey all,

Don't forget today is the last day of Phase 2 of AE Token migration.

Transfer your ERC20 tokens to be able to play around with AE features.

Best,
The AE Team
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Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
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Maybe happy bagholders can confirm your point? It went from 60K sat. to 8K.

My proposal is simple, you remove current poll entirely and start full blown hype promotion in TRON scam style.

Regarding my language, I treat every shitcoin/ICO (including bitcoin) as a junk and scam, all people involved into craptocurrency development I treat as criminals and human trash, even those who have bought it are searching for a greater fool so also must be treated as co-criminals (including even myself lol) so don't expect me to use soft language when I am writing to people of such category.

We don't expect you to be soft, but we expect you to be civil. This community has rules against profanity, swearing and insults. So, please stop offending everyone including yourself.

Best,
The AE Team
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
That is quite misleading of you - æternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

LMAO. you have a lot of power over the price, you set a sick block reward, now you want up to 20% of this insanely high block reward to your pocket. If that behaviour does not affect price of the token you are either a moron or a liar which under current circumstances also affect the price of the token.

Thank you for this beautiful language, but the AE token's price has been around Top 50 for a while and was not seriously affected by the size of the block reward.
The block reward served other arguments, as I said already - you are free to propose a change.

Maybe happy bagholders can confirm your point? It went from 60K sat. to 8K.

My proposal is simple, you remove current poll entirely and start full blown hype promotion in TRON scam style.

Regarding my language, I treat every shitcoin/ICO (including bitcoin) as a junk and scam, all people involved into craptocurrency development I treat as criminals and human trash, even those who have bought it are searching for a greater fool so also must be treated as co-criminals (including even myself lol) so don't expect me to use soft language when I am writing to people of such category.
full member
Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
æternity - scalable smart contracts
That is quite misleading of you - æternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

LMAO. you have a lot of power over the price, you set a sick block reward, now you want up to 20% of this insanely high block reward to your pocket. If that behaviour does not affect price of the token you are either a moron or a liar which under current circumstances also affect the price of the token.

Thank you for this beautiful language, but the AE token's price has been around Top 50 for a while and was not seriously affected by the size of the block reward.
The block reward served other arguments, as I said already - you are free to propose a change.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
That is quite misleading of you - æternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

LMAO. you have a lot of power over the price, you set a sick block reward, now you want up to 20% of this insanely high block reward to your pocket. If that behaviour does not affect price of the token you are either a moron or a liar which under current circumstances also affect the price of the token.
full member
Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
æternity - scalable smart contracts
Just a friendly reminder here, if you vote pro BRI your voice is against future value of your own bag of AE.

They must pump their own bags and spend carefully, if they are getting block cut they will be happy with any more or less reasonable value of AE which is order of magnitude lower than current AE price.

Don't give them block cut or they will never pump AE.

Any further "governance" outcome will be pretty predictable once you give them block cut.

That is quite misleading of you - æternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

Best,
The AE Team
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Just a friendly reminder here, if you vote pro BRI your voice is against future value of your own bag of AE.

They must pump their own bags and spend carefully, if they are getting block cut they will be happy with any more or less reasonable value of AE which is order of magnitude lower than current AE price.

Don't give them block cut or they will never pump AE.

Any further "governance" outcome will be pretty predictable once you give them block cut.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
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Maybe they can finally make a feature rich block explorer where users can check all in/out transactions per address lol.

You can use the community-run explorer aeknow.org - the voting results could be followed HERE.

Best,
The AE Team

LOL don't call that poor list a voting results, are you kidding me? There must be a chart with average % ignorant bagholders willing to give you and destroy the value of AE.
full member
Activity: 1019
Merit: 105
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Maybe they can finally make a feature rich block explorer where users can check all in/out transactions per address lol.

You can use the community-run explorer aeknow.org - the voting results could be followed HERE.

Best,
The AE Team
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003

1. The developers engaged in the æternity project have more than 300 years of cumulative experience.

Of Big Data snake oil and other bullshit. Literally every project erlang solutions have been working on or providing support is dead and not profitable, of course they all welcome your well funded new age bullshit called blockchain with both hands lol. You are even busy promoting their programming language, something that I don't wanna see happening, it's just stupid as Blockstream promoting c++ and Qt lol.

Please refrain from unchecked and literally false statements - 90% of Internet traffic is going through Erlang-controlled nodes. Erlang is an essential programming language and we are proud æternity is using it.

You missed a point, holders of AE token are not happy with your current addiction to programming languages, we are not interested in promotion of a programming language which is 30 years old and well known neither we interested in promoting other programming companies like ES.
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1. The developers engaged in the æternity project have more than 300 years of cumulative experience.

Of Big Data snake oil and other bullshit. Literally every project erlang solutions have been working on or providing support is dead and not profitable, of course they all welcome your well funded new age bullshit called blockchain with both hands lol. You are even busy promoting their programming language, something that I don't wanna see happening, it's just stupid as Blockstream promoting c++ and Qt lol.

Please refrain from unchecked and literally false statements - 90% of Internet traffic is going through Erlang-controlled nodes. Erlang is an essential programming language and we are proud æternity is using it.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003

1. The developers engaged in the æternity project have more than 300 years of cumulative experience.

Of Big Data snake oil and other bullshit. Literally every project erlang solutions have been working on or providing support is dead and not profitable, of course they all welcome your well funded new age bullshit called blockchain with both hands lol. You are even busy promoting their programming language, something that I don't wanna see happening, it's just stupid as Blockstream promoting c++ and Qt lol.

Let's face it, all these rock star teams are just masters of draining budgets.

The cut from block reward is needed to guarantee that your team and devs you hire will be funded while other idiots still buy that token on exchanges.
I am absolutely convinced that once you seal some hefty block cut you will just start excessive spending of current funds.

Since you are not going to pump it via hype and false marketing just like other successful scams like Tron do.

There are 2 kind of long term scams, a pump scam with premine/ICO/etc and block tax scam (zcash like). You are the first so this coin is a no buy coin.

Years after AE is not even on major exchanges like Poloniex or bittrex. Currently there is only one exchange - Binance, famous for its fake volume and nasty CEO. The rest of bucket shop you listed on is a total garbage and must be avoided by people.
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