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Topic: [ANN] ANANAS - Tech against hate [Pre-sale live] - page 2. (Read 6285 times)

sr. member
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SHAME

Scammers now are trying to make money from religions , i thought persons like you were extinct, shutdown this topic before more members come here and start to insult you.

Dear Dolores13,

We are not scammers, but are verifiable individuals, some of whom work for regulated entities and are easily searchable and accessible.

For example, you can find me here and see me discussing this project on Bloomberg at 22 minutes here and outlining the need for it on Reuters here after predicting the fall of West Iraq to the group later known as ISIS here.

I have appeared in international press as an expert on geopolitics and market economies for over a decade, including writing for the Wall Street Journal amongst others on extremism.

This is also being undertaken by a UK-registered charity that has additional funding routes.

A resource such as the one described is achievable if it gets the right help and increasingly valuable to the world as hatred and sectarianism rise.

The resource will be free to use, unlike other approaches that charge for access to structured religious information.

For example, when studying Christianity Logos was invaluable: https://www.logos.com/, with plans ranging from $294.99 to $999.99

Please feel free to critique any part of the project structure or approach if you disagree, we welcome any suggestions for improvements as we do not have all the answers.

Members are free to insult us if any part of the project is offensive or we are being patently unreasonable. I hope neither of this is the case as we have been very careful with this.

The token ecosystem enables contributors to participate in the creation of something truly useful that I would use myself and hope my children would too.

We will be writing more on how charities can use this model when building projects of value in the next few days on our blog.

If there is any element of this that still unsettles you, please let me know and I'll try my best to answer.

If you think this is a useless project, I'd also be appreciative of understanding why so we can hopefully make it better.

Do you know the most dangerous thing beside extremist from all religions of this world, Men with shiny suit , banks controlling life of billions of poor people over the world with debts and interest , Men with shiny suit spreading war over the globe to fill their bank accounts, Trillions of dollars wasted on war and weapons and their own country are full of homeless, jobless people, they cant even afford to pay for basic health care...........ofcourse no one can talk about men in shiny suit and what they doing to our world!!!

Pre-sale cap: 999 ETH , better asking for 99999.99 ETH? Bitcointalk is the heaven of every scammer and sucker of this world.


@Emadm How person like you know that much about crypto and ICOs, ETH, if you are not an old scammer (dont tell me:my friend idea etc.....) and btw links you provided means nothing.
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Go fucking beg for money from the UK government instead of trying to enrich yourself on the back of cryptotraders you fucking muzzie faggot.

Better yet, go ask for money from Saudi Arabia......


Money for initiatives like this is readily available with strings attached.

I thought one of the tenets of those who believe in cryptocurrency is that is better to be free of government influence  Wink

We are trying to build this as a community effort for that reason.

I have been respectful of you on this thread and tried to answer your points to the best of my ability, I hope you can extend me that kindness as a fellow human and wish you a good weekend.

If you view me as sub-human then you must take a step back and look at yourself and what you are trying to achieve by making such comments as thats what the terrorists love to hear.

I would never want to say something they would like.
full member
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The concept is quite convincing for the development of a project, but in other it certainly the development shouldn't stop here, because the more developments made, the more will be interested in this project, hopefully run well dev, good luck
hero member
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Go fucking beg for money from the UK government instead of trying to enrich yourself on the back of cryptotraders you fucking muzzie faggot.

Better yet, go ask for money from Saudi Arabia......

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Continue to pay attention more information form your project.
member
Activity: 83
Merit: 10
SHAME

Scammers now are trying to make money from religions , i thought persons like you were extinct, shutdown this topic before more members come here and start to insult you.

Dear Dolores13,

We are not scammers, but are verifiable individuals, some of whom work for regulated entities and are easily searchable and accessible.

For example, you can find me here and see me discussing this project on Bloomberg at 22 minutes here and outlining the need for it on Reuters here after predicting the fall of West Iraq to the group later known as ISIS here.

I have appeared in international press as an expert on geopolitics and market economies for over a decade, including writing for the Wall Street Journal amongst others on extremism.

This is also being undertaken by a UK-registered charity that has additional funding routes.

A resource such as the one described is achievable if it gets the right help and increasingly valuable to the world as hatred and sectarianism rise.

The resource will be free to use, unlike other approaches that charge for access to structured religious information.

For example, when studying Christianity Logos was invaluable: https://www.logos.com/, with plans ranging from $294.99 to $999.99

Please feel free to critique any part of the project structure or approach if you disagree, we welcome any suggestions for improvements as we do not have all the answers.

Members are free to insult us if any part of the project is offensive or we are being patently unreasonable. I hope neither of this is the case as we have been very careful with this.

The token ecosystem enables contributors to participate in the creation of something truly useful that I would use myself and hope my children would too.

We will be writing more on how charities can use this model when building projects of value in the next few days on our blog.

If there is any element of this that still unsettles you, please let me know and I'll try my best to answer.

If you think this is a useless project, I'd also be appreciative of understanding why so we can hopefully make it better.
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 604
The only way you will stop extremism is buy getting these fuckers to eat pork and stop putting bin bags on the heads of their women.



Dear BitPotus,

This is certainly an approach that could be employed, but unfortunately history shows that forcing people to do things against their beliefs doesn't end up very well, typically very bloody.

While it may seem a reasonable approach to "kill em all and let God sort the good from the bad after", we have to ask ourselves the following question:

In the last 16 years on the War on Terror we have spent $2 trillion, seen hundreds of thousands of innocents die from the huge numbers of weapons we have used and the number of jihadists has risen from under 1,000 to over 100,000.

Are we winning?

If not, how can we make progress?

We have outlined our view of how extremism comes about here: https://medium.com/ananas-blog/extremism-and-mount-stupid-5afa0eec7d4e

There has been great research on deradicalisation done by individuals like Dr John Horgan and Steve Hassan, an important part is getting aside the extremists context and breaking it down from there.

This is what we are trying to do with Ananas, create tools to allow this to happen as well as the contextual information needed to innoculate others who might be prone to ideological radicalisation.

If you have confidence in our governments to solve this issue with their current approach, then this project is not for you.

If you don't, then you have to think on whether this is an approach that could cause even a marginal difference.

I think we can, I hope you can believe in us too.

so you think by you collecting a fuck load of money and then you using that money to sit down and talk to the goat fuckers will work....

sorry, but you are the one taking the piss mate.

War is coming.....
sr. member
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SHAME

Scammers now are trying to make money from religions , i thought persons like you were extinct, shutdown this topic before more members come here and start to insult you.
member
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I would like to know why you choose the name ananas? Does this have a particular meaning? Because "Ananas" is the german word for pineappel. Maybe you want to reconsider it for better marketing. Anyway, I think this is an interesting project and I will keep an eye on it.

Hi CryptoGeneral,

Branding is always tough, but we picked Ananas as we are not promoting one ideology but trying to create a platform that is open and inclusive to map them all and give tools to help these communities.

Ananas is good for that because.. It's the one word that is the same in the most languages in the world (!)

There are a few exceptions, but its tough to find something that people recognize in Arabic and Hebrew, Russian and Hindi, Suomi and Turkish.

Makes you wonder what the Brits were thinking when they made it Pineapple in English:

> Sir, this fruit is actually delicious under all the spikes!
> What do the locals call it Sinjin?
> Ananas sir
> Hmm. That won't do, lets call it a pineapple because Empire

We have actually registered the trademark in the EU for the name for an online community and own a few of the domains.

Plus everyone likes pineapples.. Right? 🍍🍍
sr. member
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The value of a platform depends on its users, and the knowledge sharing can lead to everyone interested in the content is the key to the users, I hope the team can do a detailed plan to develop this project, let more people join this platform to know the truth of the matter.Long live the peace.
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Digibyte Supporter!
Will buy them  Cheesy
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I would like to know why you choose the name ananas? Does this have a particular meaning? Because "Ananas" is the german word for pineappel. Maybe you want to reconsider it for better marketing. Anyway, I think this is an interesting project and I will keep an eye on it.
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Hello! Let me reserve the translation of the bitcointalk Russian thread/site/whitepaper

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member
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The only way you will stop extremism is buy getting these fuckers to eat pork and stop putting bin bags on the heads of their women.



Dear BitPotus,

This is certainly an approach that could be employed, but unfortunately history shows that forcing people to do things against their beliefs doesn't end up very well, typically very bloody.

While it may seem a reasonable approach to "kill em all and let God sort the good from the bad after", we have to ask ourselves the following question:

In the last 16 years on the War on Terror we have spent $2 trillion, seen hundreds of thousands of innocents die from the huge numbers of weapons we have used and the number of jihadists has risen from under 1,000 to over 100,000.

Are we winning?

If not, how can we make progress?

We have outlined our view of how extremism comes about here: https://medium.com/ananas-blog/extremism-and-mount-stupid-5afa0eec7d4e

There has been great research on deradicalisation done by individuals like Dr John Horgan and Steve Hassan, an important part is getting aside the extremists context and breaking it down from there.

This is what we are trying to do with Ananas, create tools to allow this to happen as well as the contextual information needed to innoculate others who might be prone to ideological radicalisation.

If you have confidence in our governments to solve this issue with their current approach, then this project is not for you.

If you don't, then you have to think on whether this is an approach that could cause even a marginal difference.

I think we can, I hope you can believe in us too.
member
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LOL...
Such motivation to create a coin against extremism is very well-appreciated.
But this kind of ambition is impossible to attain.
It's like punching in the air. Please don't promise what you can't deliver.
Better stop this project while you can.  Roll Eyes

Hi Timeteller,

I find your post a bit depressing.

The fact that we are on Bitcointalk means that we both believe that modern technology can make a fundamental difference to the way that we think as a society.

Every ICO believes it can change or disrupt a system and are based on platforms that were once written off and laughed at, but are starting to mature and make a real difference.

We haven't promised world peace (!), but have laid out an approach to create a resource that has real value within a year.

Our milestones and initial targets are realistic (I think, please let me know if they aren't) and, as mentioned in the previous post, what we are effectively trying to do is create a Google-style Knowledge Graph for ideology.

Given advances in data science and the information available, the technological challenge for this isn't high as compared to the majority of other ICOs, which promise, for example, completely free and instant transfers or complete disruption of the legacy banking system.

The lack of existing options for accessing this information in a structured way means that the bar for creating something of value is relatively low and, I believe, achievable.

I think we have to try to make a difference and the first stages of this will at least create a resource to attack a specific part of the problem.

The ultimate goal of mapping all the major ideologies is tricky as it needs community help, but I'd be appreciative to know if you think that what we are trying to do in the initial part of our project

a) has no value
b) will make no difference
c) is impossible

Many thanks
newbie
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Although I'm not sure about the concept of this project, but it will be an interesting project, hopefully it can run well and good luck for everyone.
member
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I totally agree with this. to just sum up the point. what in the world you are to infuse you belief or religion to any entity like business.
if that's your belief then hold on to it. it's not a good thing make money from it. like in other countries someones selling lucky charms, then if it's
for luck then why sell it?.

Hi Katashi,

This is a charitable foundation looking to use technology to try to help understand all ideologies, religions or otherwise.

Clearly there is a lack of understanding today and increasing sectarianism and hate, so isn't it a good thing to try to build a resource to help build bridges and understanding?

The foundation is apolitical and does not back any religion or ideology.

We are starting with a structure for Islam as there are clearly big issues there and it forms a good template for others, which will do their own mapping once there are a critical mass of people from that community that wants to help build it.

For example, under the framework we are designing it should be possible to map out visually the belief system behind fiat and cryptocurrency, behind Austrian and Keynsian economics.

This is basically a variant of the Google Knowledge Graph, but for ideology and beliefs.

I would add that in any ICO the token issuer has a specific belief that they infuse in the network - in almost all cases you are not purchasing them for their current value, but an expectation of future value in that network under the belief it will cause a change in the status quo.

For example, you buy Tezos as you believe it can be a better ethereum and will be widely used.

In our case our belief is that mapping ideologies and allowing easy navigation of them will decrease hatred and help communities come together.

A resource like this has, in our opinion, clear value, so the tokens should appreciate in line with that future utility value to many people.
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So you want to stop extremism with what exactly? Sponsored scriptures and religious texts?

The Saudi's have spent billions of dollars a year since the 70's funding the spread of Wahhabism, which is the doctrine used by ISIS. The money comes from oil sold to the US. The military industrialists then make billions of dollars a year fighting the War on Terror. It's a giant cash cow. You know all this. Do you really think you can stop that by examining different religions and ideologies?

Also, it's not wise to hype up the future price of a coin in your whitepaper using $100m paintings as an example. The reason should be obvious.  

So, you're either (a) massive scammers, (b) naive idealists, or (c) you actually work for the government, and have rather cheekily come here to seek funding for your deradicalization program.

So which is it?







I totally agree with this. to just sum up the point. what in the world you are to infuse you belief or religion to any entity like business.
if that's your belief then hold on to it. it's not a good thing make money from it. like in other countries someones selling lucky charms, then if it's
for luck then why sell it?.
hero member
Activity: 2744
Merit: 588
The only way you will stop extremism is buy getting these fuckers to eat pork and stop putting bin bags on the heads of their women.


LOL...
Such motivation to create a coin against extremism is very well-appreciated.
But this kind of ambition is impossible to attain.
It's like punching in the air. Please don't promise what you can't deliver.
Better stop this project while you can.  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 604
The only way you will stop extremism is buy getting these fuckers to eat pork and stop putting bin bags on the heads of their women.

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