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Well I'm going to regret getting involved in this conversation, and my inbox will overflow again, but here goes. What's missing from this conversation is that the definition of price fixing, at least in the US, as I remember from my work on stock exchange software, is that it also is done in secret. Retailers band together in secret to set prices of goods, or institutions or companies band together, in secret, to plan stock manipulation.

Bitcointalk is about as secret as someone shouting HODL in the trollbox. Now, if bumface had pulled all miners into a private IRC chat and they all agreed to set sell orders at a certain level, then that would definitely be price fixing. Posting wishful thinking in a public forum falls far short of that.

This is my last comment on this, but if my original post hadn't been deleted, you would have seen I said exactly what you just did.  I said he posted it in public, and why it wasn't a big deal as it was known thing.  But you are wrong about it having to be done in secret, that's just kind of an obvious thing because no one breaks the law in public unless they are stupid.  If someone were in a position to fix a price, and asked other people / companies to do the same in earshot of 100 other people also trading, he would still be arrested -- and win a Darwin award as well. 

All I did was point out 1) Beave was not incorrect.  2) Bumface shouldn't respond to comments with vindictive threats.  3) He really shouldn't respond with vindictive threats when they aren't even valid. 

The rest of this entire conversation has been one of technicalities and I literally don't care about the issue enough to type another word.  I got pulled into the same behavior I was lambasting because nanoprobe was driving me somewhat insane as people tend to do when they are smug about their ignorance.  I should know better then to try to ever correct someone like that, it's a dead end road. 

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UTC should be flat rate $1 per coin until POW/POS kicks in
then it can be $10 a coin
and when all coins mined it can then be $100 per coin

and when 1 sat BTC = $1
UTC can be $1000 per coin

Fair preset prices i think we can all agree on Huh  

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Damn it Nitro back online their goes all the easy to mine coins again :S


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  • As N-factor increases over time, hashrates will become more dependent on memory resources.  So settings in your .bat and .conf files like thread-concurrency and gpu mem clock as well as total system memory will become more important.  Also, for most people, lowering intensity has been required after N-factor increases to avoid HW errors.
  • Current Nfactor Configs: NFactor Configs for the April 5th Change are being Optimized as we Speak. Stay Tuned!
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  • Ultracoins's Speed - 3 Fully Confirmed Global Transaction in 90 Seconds

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MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE: Read More

UTC MINING CONFIG GENERATOR: Read More

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Wallet:

NOTE:
Code:
Go to the debug window, console and type "getmininginfo" if you want to utilize this new feature. This update is NOT mandatory.

Example:

Use "networkhashps/1000^3=hashrate in ghash/s" to calculate

N factor explanation:

N-Factor     Seconds Since Launch     Days at N-Factor        Start Date                Memory size
4            0-524287                   6.07               12 / 30 / 13 @ 12:00:00am UTC    8KB
5            524288-786431              3.04               01 / 05 / 14 @ 01:38:08am UTC    16KB
6            786432-1048575             3.0                01 / 08 / 14 @ 02:27:12am UTC    32KB
7            1048576-1835007            9.1                01 / 11 / 14 @ 03:16:16am UTC    64KB
8            1835008-2097151            3.1                01 / 20 / 14 @ 05:43:28am UTC    128KB
9            2097152-4194303            24.2               01 / 23 / 14 @ 06:32:32am UTC    256KB
10           4194304-5242879            12.2               02 / 16 / 14 @ 01:05:04pm UTC    512KB
11           5242880-8388607            36.4               02 / 28 / 14 @ 04:21:20pm UTC    1MB
12           8388608-12582911           49                 04 / 06 / 14 @ 02:10:08am UTC    2MB
13           12582912-16777215          48                 05 / 24 / 14 @ 03:15:12pm UTC    4MB
14           16777216-33554431          194                07 / 12 / 14 @ 04:20:16am UTC    8MB
15           33554432-41943039          97                 01 / 22 / 15 @ 08:40:32am UTC    16MB


What to expect as a result:

1- An equilibrium between CPU and GPU mining at one point.
2- UTC value rising as a result of increased cost to mine.
3- UTC becoming more and more ASIC resistant as time goes by.
4- Cloud mining will be a choice as another mining medium.

Conclusion: UTC is positioning itself to be a major beneficiary of the LTC migration.
We all saw the migration from bitcoin to LTC as a result of ASICS.
Soon UTC will see the same sort of migration as Scrypt Asics roll out in large numbers.

Source Code (Developers Only): Download  |  Mirror
Linux GPU Miner Source (Developers Only): Download

Miners:

Helpful Links:



    Official UltraCoin Dev Pool - NOW OPEN!

    Built by UltraCoin supporter, Thiago, and given at no cost to the UTC Community! All fees generated by this pool will be donated to the Ultracoin development fund, events, promotions and other efforts.

Please visit our site HERE to browse the most up-to-date list of UTC Pools.



Please visit our site HERE to browse the most up-to-date list of UTC Exchanges.



Ultracoin is a hybrid proof-of-work / proof-of-stake coin, whereby active nodes are involved in the mining of blocks if they hold Ultracoin. With Ultracoin you can send and receive currency worldwide to friends, family or business partners. You may even exchange it for other currencies or simply use it to buy goods. Miners are currently awarded with 50 new Ultracoins per block, an amount which gets halved roughly every 990.000 blocks. The Ultracoin network is therefore scheduled to produce 100 million Ultracoins, which is almost 4.5 times as many currency units as Bitcoin.

Ultracoin can be mined with both CPU's and GPU's. Furthermore, with an ASIC resistant Scrypt Jane base, you can feel at ease. This will ensure that you won't be surprised by new hardware technologies. UTC is a hybrid proof-of-work/proof-of-stake coin, whereby active nodes are involved in the mining of blocks if they hold UTC.

  • Total coins: 100,000,000
  • Premine: 2% (1.6% IPO / 0.3% DEV / 0.1% REWARDS)
  • Block time target: 30 seconds
  • Block reward: 50, halving every 990,000 blocks
  • Difficulty retarget:max 200% per 30mins
  • Mined block confirmation: 50
  • Transaction confirmation: 5
  • NFactor Integration
  • Port: 44100
  • Rpc port: 44101



Ultracoin info-graphic Giveaway Get some free UTC

  • Create a positive info-graphic/s about Ultracoin
  • Include your wallet address at the bottom of the info-graphic/s
  • Post your info-graphic/s anywhere and everywhere, do not spam.
  • Put them in your blogs, post them on twitter,  upload to image sites, post on different forums/ no spam.
  • On next Saturday the devs will search google images and all your info-graphics listed with your wallet address will get some free UTC.
  • During the week the devs will also search for the most innovative info-graphics and give some extra rewards to keep you going.
  • How many Info-graphics you can create?, the sky is the limit, each one listed on google images by next Saturday will get some free UTC
  • Create your info-graphic in any format you like png,gif,jpg etc.... but remember to name it ultracoin and the more innovative the better
  • Name your info-graphic file ultracoin with any extension you use so we can find it easily on google
  • Next Saturday also there will be a community vote to determine the best 3 Info-graphics to pick 3 grand winners

   * any questions about this contest will be answered on the announcement thread.
   ** Please allow Devs time to read and comment on each inquiry.

Ultracoin Youtube Giveaway Get more free UTC

  • Create a positive Youtube video/s about Ultracoin
  • Include your wallet address in the about section of the video
  • Share your ultracoin youtube video anywhere and everywhere, do not spam.
  • Put them in your blogs, post them on twitter,  upload to other video sites, post on different forums/ no spam.
  • On next Sunday the devs will search Youtube and all your videos  listed with your wallet address will get some free UTC.
  • During the week the devs will also search Youtube for the most innovative Videos and give some extra rewards to keep you going.
  • How many videos you can create?, the sky is the limit, each one listed on Youtube by next Sunday will get some free UTC
  • Create your video in any format you like accepted by Youtube.... but remember to name it ultracoin and the more innovative the better
  • Name your video file ultracoin with any extension you use and put ultracoin in title/description so we can find it easily on Youtube
  • Next Sunday also there will be a community vote to determine the best 3 Youtube videos to pick 3 grand winners
  • If your Video goes Viral there is a handsome extra reward for you too.


How do I solo mine?

Code:
Create an ultracoin.conf within your %APPDATA% folder and add these lines:
 
 rpcuser=youruser
 rpcpassword=yourpassword
 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
 daemon=1
 server=1
 listen=1
 
Start the ultracoin client, edit solo_mining.bat with the specified user and password, and run the .bat. Enjoy mining!
NOTE: Please set expiry = 1, scan time = 1, and queue = 0 in cgminer to receive lower rejects. Thanks!

What is Proof of Stake?

Code:
20% interest per year if you:

1. Have UTC in wallet
2. Don't spend it during that year
3. Have wallet online all year
4. Have wallet unlocked for minting, do this like so:
    - Open debug window, then console, then type: 'walletpassphrase' yourpassword '999999999' true

In Depth Explanation of POS: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake

Can you please explain the details of the pre-mine?

Code:
Absolutely! In fact, it has already been laid out. Please peruse the content of the original post below for the in-depth answer.



Please visit our site HERE to browse the most up-to-date list of UTC Services.




Please visit our site HERE to browse the most up-to-date list of UTC Marketplaces.

So, you now have UTC? What else can you do with it besides sell/hold it? How about buy stuff. After all, that is the purpose of a currency--to exchange it for goods and services. Below you will find the currently available shops whom accept UTC!




Ultracoin is fast, efficient, effective and now portable. Several apps have been developed to help extend your UTC experience beyond your PC. We have exchange trackers, profitability calculators and more readily available with sever additional apps and widgets currently in development. Frequent this page for the latest and greatest UTC innovations!




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Hello, 
 
I would like to take this opportunity to announce the release of our coin called :[b]Ultracoin (UTC)[/b] on [u]February 1st[/u].

[b]which is asic-resistant[/b]

 
We have been working hard to finalize our coin, and I have been fortunate enough to work with a team consisting of a good dev and a professional external consultant to help guide the entire process. We have also commissioned custom pool software with real time API data to our website to track various statistics, such as users, hashrates and current difficulty.
 
You may know me (bumface) as a chat moderator on btc-e, however i would like to emphasize the fact that this coin is [u]not[/u] an affiliate of btc-e, but a personal endeavour with a proper team.
 
Through our common love for crypto we got together as equal partners to make this coin a reality. We have offered rewards in BTC and UTC for many jobs, and some jobs are still open (Please view the 'Rewards and Bounties' section.)

We are currently in negotiations with multiple exchanges

 
Announcement                             : 13 jan.
Launch and                         : February 1st.
Mining start                                : X

We have this logo as a temperary logo, we have commissioned a logo by a real graphic designer, if this does not work out, we will organise a competition with a reward.


[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]Launching time:7:00PM UTC
[url=http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140201T20&p0=16]http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140201T20&p0=16[/url]


Website:http://www.ultracoin.net/

#ultracoin on [url=http://webchat.freenode.net/]http://webchat.freenode.net/[/url]
 
[i]Please view the technical specifications and information below: [/i]
 
 
-2 equal partners (ziggy and bumface)

-Scrypt-jane  
 
-Pow/Pos

ultracoin is a hybrid proof-of-work/proof-of-stake coin, whereby active nodes are involved in the mining of blocks if they hold utc.
this will give a strong incentive to a. hold coins and b. be an active node (e.g. have wallet open/running) on the network.

this means that, under certain circumstances, you may accrue 20% proof-of-stake interest per year on the coins you own.

a good source for more information is https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
 
-Total coins: 100,000,000
 
-Premine: 2% (2 million UTC, please view public premine distribution ledger below.)
 
-Block time target: 30 seconds
 
-Block reward: 50, halving every 990,000 blocks
 
-Difficulty retarget:max 200% per 30mins
 
-Mined block confirmation: 50
 
-Transaction confirmation: 5
 
-Port: 44100
 
-Rpc port: 44101
 

[u]Windows-qt client:[/u]
[url=https://mega.co.nz/#!M9cCAaCZ!PUnxoWI8GfUgDTkwRK9NsPLrjsFQxvsMreFND6FXV_Q]https://mega.co.nz/#!M9cCAaCZ!PUnxoWI8GfUgDTkwRK9NsPLrjsFQxvsMreFND6FXV_Q[/url]

[color=red]OFFICIAL POOL 1: [/color][url=http://www.ultracoinpool.com]www.ultracoinpool.com[/url]  NOT open yet for registration

[u]CPU Mining:[/u] Open the console and type setgenerate true to start mining.
 

[color=red][u]GPU Miner:[/u] [/color]

[url=https://mega.co.nz/#!AwkFGQRR!LYwU5DXzLeVKyTXpVsNgNifre8ANFxHUVHwgt0Q-rZs]https://mega.co.nz/#!AwkFGQRR!LYwU5DXzLeVKyTXpVsNgNifre8ANFxHUVHwgt0Q-rZs[/url]
 
 Open ultracoin.conf and add these lines:
 
 rpcuser=youruser
 rpcpassword=yourpassword
 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
 daemon=1
 server=1
 listen=1
 
 Start ultracoin client, edit solo_mining.bat with user and password, run the .bat, done.
 
please set expiry = 1, scan time = 1, and queue = 0 in cgminer to lower rejects.

[u]logos:[/u]
[url=http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=hu5dzq&s=5#.UtRZGPTuLkJ]http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=hu5dzq&s=5#.UtRZGPTuLkJ[/url]
 
[u]Source:[/u]
[url=https://github.com/ziggy909/ultracoin]https://github.com/ziggy909/ultracoin[/url]

[u]Twitter:[/u] [url=https://twitter.com/official_utc]https://twitter.com/official_utc[/url]
 
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[i]-Why is there a premine?[/i]
 
 
You will probably have noticed a 2% premine, allow me to explain why we did this. We wish to be open about every single coin in existence, so you may see where it went and why.



[b]Public premine distribution ledger:[/b]
 
[u]-1.600.000 UTC[/u] are available to purchase by any potential stakeholder (Please view stakeholders proposition below.) in an open bidding system with a minimum bid of 0.00005[btc]              
 
 
[u]-100.000 UTC[/u] go to partner 1:[u]Ziggy[/u] (dev)                                                                                                                      
 
[u]-100.000 UTC[/u] go to partner 2:[u]bumface[/u] (founder)                                                                                                                
 
 
[u]-100.000 UTC[/u] go to our professional external consultant. (as well as 5 btc)                        
 
[u]-100.000 UTC[/u] go to rewards for jobs done by any capable developer, for example: making an android wallet, or making a working  
mining pool with real-time API data link to our main website. (also btc rewards)
 

 
 
Please note that every partner gets [u]0.1%[/u] of the total number of coins, we feel this is not unreasonable as a compensation for our time and investment.
 
We will have the balance of our wallets visible on our homepage  so everybody can see when we sell coins from our personal wallet. The reason we do this is because we feel there are too many coins where the premine is left unexplained and there are vague wallets with unidentified coins and owners.

We hope that this will foster a good relationship with the community.
 
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[b]What is different about Ultracoin??[/b]

Let be honest, the code is not the most difficult part of an endeavour like this,although scrypt jane is not the easyest thing to do because of enhanced asic resistance.

So what is left then? ......the team.The people behind it. What is their intention? what is their vision?


Ultracoin has employed many influential people for ammounts like 5 btc, 10 btc and 15 btc per person as well as UTC rewards.Every person brings a different skillset to the table and is hard at work to make things happen for UTC.

It is not yet super evident to the public how this will unfold into actual results, but if you keep an eye on us you will see many fast and wonderfull developements.


Without this kind of support a coin is just a coin, and has no real future.We wish to stand out from a legion of altcoins and with the building of this community we will achieve that.
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[b]Stakeholders proposition[/b]

BIDDING IS CLOSEDSTAY TUNED

ALL OFFERS ACCEPTED, NOBODY REJECTED
 
The reason we want to sell of coins during the launch is because not everybody has an ability to mine coins, this would give an unfair advantage to early miners.
They would get a fairly large amount of coins due to low difficulty, giving a great advantage over traders who have to wait until our coin is accepted on exchanges.
 
 
 
[i]Stakeholders rights:[/i]
 
Stakeholder have a right to be anonymous for as long as they please (including in perpetuity).
 
 
 
[u]A total of 1,600,000 UTC will be available to purchase[/u] right after the UTC launch by anybody who desires to do so. These 1.600,000 UTC will come out of the 2% premine, [u]not[/u] on top of it. This means 98% (98 million UTC) of all coins can be mined by anyone with a GPU or CPU.
 
We will accept open offers with a coin amount and price of your choice (with a minimum bid of 0.00005 btc per unit of UTC), and will select people until all 1,600,000 UTC is sold.

We will launch as on February 1st, however you may make an offer to us now as of [u]now[/u].

Please send your offer to [b]X[/b]. Offers will be entertained and replied between 13-1-2014 and 27-1-2014



this offer must include:

- your (nick) name this name will be on our website along with your UTC adress to offer total transparancy, if you wish to remain anonymous put an X here.

-The ammount of UTC you wish to purchase

-Your UTC unit price (with a minimum of 0.00005[btc]) and the totals in UTC and BTC.




[i]Example message:[/i]

name             : billy
UTC amount     : 10.000 (ten thousand)
unit price         : 0.00005
total             : 0,5[btc]


you may copy & paste this

name             :
UTC amount        :
unit price         :    
total             :      [btc]

If your offer is accepted you will recieve an adress to send [btc] to, and as soon as we have received and verified your [btc], you will receive an e mail confirming your payment.We will destribute all the wallets to stakeholders on the same day as the wallet link goes up, and then you will recieve your coins( this is to prevent early mining and also reduce chance of 51% attack


please note that verification will not be optimal in the beginning since we need the miners to act as nodes (Custom pool software is being built).


 


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[i]-What will happen with the [btc] that comes in?[/i]


 
A portion of this amount will be used for rewards and bounties to further the development of Ultracoin (please view the rewards and bounties section below), as well.
 
The remainder of the BTC will be divided under the 2 equal partners to recoup the investment in this coin, and yes, we will also earn [btc] with this endeavour.
 
Also note that we are in this thing for the long haul and we are thinking long term, so because we might sell our coins years from now, the 2 partners will take some BTC at the start from the stakes that are sold.
 
We have no intention of dumping our coins when it reaches a certain value and then abandon this project. We would also like to state that we have no intention of becoming the next hype coin, with a massive rise in the first week and then a downwards slope without recovery. If this is what you desire there are many hypecoins to choose from, but that`s not us.
 
Bitcoin took 5 years to get to this level, so we have all the time in the world. We would rather have slow growth towards a truly stable coin than the next hype coin.


[i]Please note that we would also like to ask larger stakeholders to sell responsibly right after launch, so that a healthy market may form.[/i]



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[b]Rewards and Bounties [/b]
 
 
We will be giving rewards/bounties for certain jobs paid in BTC and/or UTC.



Our dev will review your work, and if it is selected we will launch it for a 2 week evaluation period in which the community can use it so we may test it for flaws and bugs.
 
After the work has passed the quality norm,you will receive your reward, and it will be visible on our homepage.
 
such jobs include:
 
-Blockchain explorer       -     7500 UTC

-Android wallet              -     3000 UTC
 
-Mac wallet                   -     3000 UTC

-mac os gpu miner         -     3000 UTC

-Linux wallet                 -     3000 UTC
  
-Linux gpu miner            -     3000 UTC


If you feel you are a capable developer, you may start one of these jobs at once, please announce that you are working on it on this thread.

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We hope to have informed you properly and openly about our project and we know that we are nothing without acceptance from the community. Crypto is an open market and we hope we can provide a stable coin with a proper and dedicated team behind it, however the community will decide our success or failure so please join us and make ultracoin a success.
 
Thank you :D
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Dev's...
I've read through the recent posts but couldn't find any previous concerns already addressed.
My question is...
What is the reason for ultracoinpool.info asking that no one donate extra on the mining? What's up with that? I want to help out as best I can for this coins future, and I've already sent some extra to DCgirl. I will send some more. But what is with the real reason behind the change?

Again,
Thanks for everything!
Craig Claussen

hi donations are always welcome,to build up the dev fund Smiley

I think thats a grammar thing...


the official adres for donations is:


UV65rd1p2D5TcAihXm4vdSWy89tTLajoEf




STOP the DRAMA GUYS ONLY I WANT  to be TRANSPARENT  Donations to  Directly  to DEV Wallet www.ultracoinpool.info always support the team and is official ULTRACOIN POOL     








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Enjoy being a clueless fool.  
When you have nothing to bring to the debate then the name calling starts.
Enjoy being ignored . GIY.
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Well I'm going to regret getting involved in this conversation, and my inbox will overflow again, but here goes. What's missing from this conversation is that the definition of price fixing, at least in the US, as I remember from my work on stock exchange software, is that it also is done in secret. Retailers band together in secret to set prices of goods, or institutions or companies band together, in secret, to plan stock manipulation.

Bitcointalk is about as secret as someone shouting HODL in the trollbox. Now, if bumface had pulled all miners into a private IRC chat and they all agreed to set sell orders at a certain level, then that would definitely be price fixing. Posting wishful thinking in a public forum falls far short of that.
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which is what I said.... That UTC is not covered by it.  But if this were a regulated market, good luck saying you aren't a us citizen when telling people to set a certain price and hold it.  I'm only familiar with US laws, but I'm pretty sure every 1st world nation has such laws.  So I stick by what I said, that in the market the brave was talking about, its illegal.

why are you so keen to argue this point.  There is no ambiguity here.  I clearly defined the situation in which it would be illegal and said its not for UTC.  The whole point was that bumfaces response was equally ridiculous claiming he was being defamed and that the beave was the criminal.  And somehow that saying please means it isn't price fixing.

I don't think there isn't any other words for it than price fixing, legal or not.

I knew you wouldn't get it. Troll on.

Enjoy being a clueless fool. 
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which is what I said.... That UTC is not covered by it.  But if this were a regulated market, good luck saying you aren't a us citizen when telling people to set a certain price and hold it.  I'm only familiar with US laws, but I'm pretty sure every 1st world nation has such laws.  So I stick by what I said, that in the market the brave was talking about, its illegal.

why are you so keen to argue this point.  There is no ambiguity here.  I clearly defined the situation in which it would be illegal and said its not for UTC.  The whole point was that bumfaces response was equally ridiculous claiming he was being defamed and that the beave was the criminal.  And somehow that saying please means it isn't price fixing.

I don't think there isn't any other words for it than price fixing, legal or not.

I knew you wouldn't get it. Troll on.
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And nanoprobe --- too funny?  You're lack of saying anything substantial does not make you come off as having some deep insight into the subject.  If you think I'm incorrect, perhaps you should explain how instead of leaving comments that try to suggest you know things that you likely don't.  
I found your attempt to link bumfaces' suggestion on pricing to the Sherman Act to be quite hilarious since it #1, it doesn't apply in any way shape or form to what he said and #2, he doesn't reside in the US which makes any correlation to the Sherman Act irrelevant and since there is no correlation, well, I hope that makes it clear to you. Nice try though. Over and out.  Tongue

which is what I said.... That UTC is not covered by it.  But if this were a regulated market, good luck saying you aren't a us citizen when telling people to set a certain price and hold it.  I'm only familiar with US laws, but I'm pretty sure every 1st world nation has such laws.  So I stick by what I said, that in the market the brave was talking about, its illegal.

why are you so keen to argue this point.  There is no ambiguity here.  I clearly defined the situation in which it would be illegal and said its not for UTC.  The whole point was that bumfaces response was equally ridiculous claiming he was being defamed and that the beave was the criminal.  And somehow that saying please means it isn't price fixing.

I don't think there isn't any other words for it than price fixing, legal or not.

Just google 'penny stock fraud'. What you read will seem eerily familiar. bumface will delete this post in 5...4...3...2...1...
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And nanoprobe --- too funny?  You're lack of saying anything substantial does not make you come off as having some deep insight into the subject.  If you think I'm incorrect, perhaps you should explain how instead of leaving comments that try to suggest you know things that you likely don't.  
I found your attempt to link bumfaces' suggestion on pricing to the Sherman Act to be quite hilarious since it #1, it doesn't apply in any way shape or form to what he said and #2, he doesn't reside in the US which makes any correlation to the Sherman Act irrelevant and since there is no correlation, well, I hope that makes it clear to you. Nice try though. Over and out.  Tongue

which is what I said.... That UTC is not covered by it.  But if this were a regulated market, good luck saying you aren't a us citizen when telling people to set a certain price and hold it.  I'm only familiar with US laws, but I'm pretty sure every 1st world nation has such laws.  So I stick by what I said, that in the market the brave was talking about, its illegal.

why are you so keen to argue this point.  There is no ambiguity here.  I clearly defined the situation in which it would be illegal and said its not for UTC.  The whole point was that bumfaces response was equally ridiculous claiming he was being defamed and that the beave was the criminal.  And somehow that saying please means it isn't price fixing.

I don't think there isn't any other words for it than price fixing, legal or not.
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UTC up on Cryptsy
Since yesterday, it's been fun watching the noob pump and dumpers!

Some calling themselves sharks and whales....

This coin will continue to rise, with daytraders wishing they held!!

I'm holding strong!!



+1
we just dont want UTC labled as a pump and dump coin

Agreed. But the recent influx of daytraders have no loyalty. Yet they are all the while spreading the attention.

Here's a good set of charts for comparison:
BTC 7 day
http://coinmarketcap.com/btc_7.html
UTC 7 day
http://coinmarketcap.com/utc_7.html

That should speak volumes on any longterm investor's plate.
Get it while it's still low and hold!!


SxC
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Activity: 336
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UTC up on Cryptsy
Since yesterday, it's been fun watching the noob pump and dumpers!

Some calling themselves sharks and whales....

This coin will continue to rise, with daytraders wishing they held!!

I'm holding strong!!



+1
we just dont want UTC labled as a pump and dump coin
hero member
Activity: 732
Merit: 500
UTC up on Cryptsy
Since yesterday, it's been fun watching the noob pump and dumpers!

Some calling themselves sharks and whales....

This coin will continue to rise, with daytraders wishing they held!!

I'm holding strong!!

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Wow bumface, you deleted that last post? Your reign as cult leader will come to an end, sir.
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Dev's...
I've read through the recent posts but couldn't find any previous concerns already addressed.
My question is...
What is the reason for ultracoinpool.info asking that no one donate extra on the mining? What's up with that? I want to help out as best I can for this coins future, and I've already sent some extra to DCgirl. I will send some more. But what is with the real reason behind the change?

Again,
Thanks for everything!
Craig Claussen

Thiago doesnt have the time to mess about with donations so he asked for any to go direct to the TeamUTC wallet

Thanks. And thanks to Thiago for setting it up. If that is all he can complain about then he's not paying himself enough!!!
 Grin

I'm going back to 5% whether he likes it or not!!
Cheers!!
hero member
Activity: 732
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Dev's...
I've read through the recent posts but couldn't find any previous concerns already addressed.
My question is...
What is the reason for ultracoinpool.info asking that no one donate extra on the mining? What's up with that? I want to help out as best I can for this coins future, and I've already sent some extra to DCgirl. I will send some more. But what is with the real reason behind the change?

Again,
Thanks for everything!
Craig Claussen

hi donations are always welcome,to build up the dev fund Smiley

I think thats a grammar thing...


the official adres for donations is:


UV65rd1p2D5TcAihXm4vdSWy89tTLajoEf


LOL, okay. Just sent you some! Grin
SxC
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Activity: 336
Merit: 250
Dev's...
I've read through the recent posts but couldn't find any previous concerns already addressed.
My question is...
What is the reason for ultracoinpool.info asking that no one donate extra on the mining? What's up with that? I want to help out as best I can for this coins future, and I've already sent some extra to DCgirl. I will send some more. But what is with the real reason behind the change?

Again,
Thanks for everything!
Craig Claussen

Thiago doesnt have the time to mess about with donations so he asked for any to go direct to the TeamUTC wallet
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 501
Dev's...
I've read through the recent posts but couldn't find any previous concerns already addressed.
My question is...
What is the reason for ultracoinpool.info asking that no one donate extra on the mining? What's up with that? I want to help out as best I can for this coins future, and I've already sent some extra to DCgirl. I will send some more. But what is with the real reason behind the change?

Again,
Thanks for everything!
Craig Claussen

hi donations are always welcome,to build up the dev fund Smiley

I think thats a grammar thing...


the official adres for donations is:


UV65rd1p2D5TcAihXm4vdSWy89tTLajoEf
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