I saw that after Agbe posted that, I was thinking "Oh oh Agbe may have used the wrong words" so I waited for him to correct it and let it pass but others caught him, this is a lesson for Agbe to check or review his post but I doubt one will discredit a platform that pays him every week since he apologizes we could move on.
I believe too it was a slip that happened and ended generalizing the whole lot. He wasn't lucky to have spotted it on time for correction. There's no way one will conscientiously advertise a service one doesn't have confidence in without getting pricked. I once spotted a user on a campaign thread who said something was terrible instead of terrific (as they wanted to say it was a nice experience), and that changed the whole dynamics of the semantics of their sentence construction. Agbe should've immediately edited that part once his error was spotted and all raised eyebrows would've been regularized. 
Topic: ✅ [ANN] Bettercallraul.it No KYC Crypto Exchange | LOW FEES & Private | CLI ✅ (Read 1087 times)
May 30, 2023, 03:11:05 AM
May 27, 2023, 03:37:27 AM
But you just said "Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable". It's a clear stance It means all mixers are unreliable and should not be allowed here again. One wonders why you are still advertising an unreliable service.
Because I was thinking that Bettercallraul is also a mixer because after the drama of Chipmixer and the seizure methods were the same. And such assertion was made in the Chipmixer drama too by users and staff were also ask to steer clear from mixers.Oh, buddy, you really mixed things up here. You don't seem to be looking at the big picture.
There is absolutely no similarity between these two services. Apart from the fact that they are completely different types of businesses, Chipmixer did not escape, nor is there any doubt that it was a fraud on the part of the owner. While Bettercallraul tried to make himself a similar "victim", and it is obviously an exit scam.
I don't know what kind of drama you are talking about when it comes to Chipmixer, but it was nothing more than drama when, for example, FTX declared bankruptcy.
If we mark every deeper discussion as a drama, which services will remain acceptable on this forum?
Signature campaigns and everything around them are a significant factor in this forum, but they are certainly not the most important thing here.
May 26, 2023, 06:28:06 PM
Bettercallraul is not accessible anymore he pull the plug because he knows that he is being tracked its good that Royse is implementing new measures to prevent a similar occurrence, it's hard for bounty managers to experience something like this, only experienced managers can come out with this bad experience, this is one of the risks of being a campaign manager, an inexperienced manager will just run away.
One wonders where they got the funding from to run a signature campaign for some good number of weeks.Could they have been past scammers coming in to pull off another scam but then failed when the exchange failed to gain traction and now look for an alternative scam service to introduce to the forum in the near future?
May 26, 2023, 10:18:50 AM
Well everyone see things from different perspective, and that is the linguistics analysis of a sentence. In the Faculty Social Sciences, when a statement is made, everyone see it from different opinion and that create the public opinion. "Should" was used as probability. But if the mixer is doing well then all is well. Just that we don't want what happened in Chipmixer to repeat itself. If I have offended you and others sorry. I no mean any harm
Your statement from above doesn't leave much room for interpretation to be honest. You literally said that Mixers are not reliable and shouldn't be allowed on the forum while you are getting payed to advertise one yourself.
The problem aren't mixing services but rather scammers running them. Same thing could happen with any other service like an exchange (as in this case), casinos, lending plattforms and the list is long. Anyone holding customer funds can do a rug pull.
I'm not sure if you simply chose poor wording and don't want to discredit you as we haven't interacted before...
I saw that after Agbe posted that, I was thinking "Oh oh Agbe may have used the wrong words" so I waited for him to correct it and let it pass but others caught him, this is a lesson for Agbe to check or review his post but I doubt one will discredit a platform that pays him every week since he apologizes we could move on.
Bettercallraul is not accessible anymore he pull the plug because he knows that he is being tracked its good that Royse is implementing new measures to prevent a similar occurrence, it's hard for bounty managers to experience something like this, only experienced managers can come out with this bad experience, this is one of the risks of being a campaign manager, an inexperienced manager will just run away.
May 26, 2023, 06:04:45 AM
Well everyone see things from different perspective, and that is the linguistics analysis of a sentence. In the Faculty Social Sciences, when a statement is made, everyone see it from different opinion and that create the public opinion. "Should" was used as probability. But if the mixer is doing well then all is well. Just that we don't want what happened in Chipmixer to repeat itself. If I have offended you and others sorry. I no mean any harm
Your statement from above doesn't leave much room for interpretation to be honest. You literally said that Mixers are not reliable and shouldn't be allowed on the forum while you are getting payed to advertise one yourself.
The problem aren't mixing services but rather scammers running them. Same thing could happen with any other service like an exchange (as in this case), casinos, lending plattforms and the list is long. Anyone holding customer funds can do a rug pull.
I'm not sure if you simply chose poor wording and don't want to discredit you as we haven't interacted before...
May 25, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
Maybe not many people are use exch.cx, I didn't even heard of this exchange.
probably because it's fairly new, about 10-11 months old and they also haven't bothered to advertise themselves.But they are ranked highly on kycnot.me, with a score of 9/10
Did anyone from bitcointalk forum used this scam exchange and lost any money?
Apart from the unpaid campaign participants, I doubt if there is any member here who was scammed otherwise we would have seen a number of scam accusationTotal ripoff.
Sadly nobody spent time doing plagiarism checking for them, and I think this must be done when there are campaigns in forum.
We usually have very sharp forum detectives who just need an hour or so to detect such anomalies but i guess they were destructed by other service events at that time Sadly nobody spent time doing plagiarism checking for them, and I think this must be done when there are campaigns in forum.
May 25, 2023, 05:46:45 PM
They had their own token $RAUL. At some point, the total value was 1.4 million
Somebody dumped that token real hard.
I never liked when exchanges started creating their own tokens, maybe Binance was first and everyone else followed.
But now scam exchanges are doing stuff this to scam more money from people.
Did anyone from bitcointalk forum used this scam exchange and lost any money?
There terms of service... Lol, How could we not see this?
Total ripoff.Sadly nobody spent time doing plagiarism checking for them, and I think this must be done when there are campaigns in forum.
May 24, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
But you just said "Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable". It's a clear stance It means all mixers are unreliable and should not be allowed here again. One wonders why you are still advertising an unreliable service.
Because I was thinking that Bettercallraul is also a mixer because after the drama of Chipmixer and the seizure methods were the same. And such assertion was made in the Chipmixer drama too by users and staff were also ask to steer clear from mixers.I think this sentence already quite clearly represents what bettercallraul really is lol
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Bettercallraul.it No KYC Crypto Exchange
there is still no information on how much loss they have made, until now their social media accounts are also inactive.
May 24, 2023, 09:57:11 AM
But you just said "Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable". It's a clear stance It means all mixers are unreliable and should not be allowed here again. One wonders why you are still advertising an unreliable service.
Because I was thinking that Bettercallraul is also a mixer because after the drama of Chipmixer and the seizure methods were the same. And such assertion was made in the Chipmixer drama too by users and staff were also ask to steer clear from mixers.It's your opinion but quite hypocritical given that you wear a signature of one of them. I don't know what they would think about your opinion 
Well everyone see things from different perspective, and that is the linguistics analysis of a sentence. In the Faculty Social Sciences, when a statement is made, everyone see it from different opinion and that create the public opinion. "Should" was used as probability. But if the mixer is doing well then all is well. Just that we don't want what happened in Chipmixer to repeat itself. If I have offended you and others sorry. I no mean any harm 
May 24, 2023, 09:17:40 AM
It's your opinion but quite hypocritical given that you wear a signature of one of them. I don't know what they would think about your opinion
It's similar like 1xbit participants where they're saying 1xbit is a legit casino or they will give an advice to avoid to gamble on scam casino. But it's still fall to promotion, rather than this one where he want kill the project he currently promoted and get paid from them There terms of service... Lol, How could we not see this?
Maybe not many people are use exch.cx, I didn't even heard of this exchange.But this show the team behind this project is lazy enough to create their own terms.
May 23, 2023, 05:34:10 PM
Reading through the first comments member made in this thread. I realized that the service had quite a number of red flags but perhaps the chaos surrounding the chipmixer seizure made people not to pay proper attention or be critical to the new service
Any member here who has used BettercallRaul before?
Please confirm to me that the service was not a complete rip-off from https://exch.cx (which seem to be older and legit)
There terms of service... Lol, How could we not see this?
Any member here who has used BettercallRaul before?
Please confirm to me that the service was not a complete rip-off from https://exch.cx (which seem to be older and legit)
There terms of service... Lol, How could we not see this?
Eligibility: Any person can create and perform exchange operations on our service. We do not discriminate or have any rejection criteria.
Rates: Dynamic rate mode - rates are updated according to cryptocurrency market data fluctuation and should be fixed once payment is received. Fixed-rate mode - rates are fixed for 45 minutes after order creation and are subject to update every next 45 minutes if there is no incoming payment present.
Customer payment: There are no requirements for the amount to send; however, if a customer sends an amount that exceeds our minimum or maximum balance to convert, a customer will be eligible for a refund which is performed automatically. The min/max balance information is shown to users before creating orders and during operations.
Our payment: We will execute a payment to the customer once the receiving amount reaches sufficient network confirmations and is within our minimum or maximum balance to convert. The min/max balance information is shown to users before creating orders and during operations.
Refunds: Refund operations are fully automatic. We do not charge refund fees; customers can select a desirable network fee for their refunds (depending on a cryptocurrency network). ERC-20 token refunds are performed by sending a user a private key of a funding address.
Support: Customers should use a contact form on our site to create support tickets. Customers are also given a per-order support chat on each exchange, where they can receive specific information relevant to their exchange operation. Support answer time depends on its current load and should be, at most, 12 hours.
Prohibited jurisdictions: None (we are unable to detect the customer's country anyway because we have IP-logging disabled and none of our software pieces process such information)
Rates: Dynamic rate mode - rates are updated according to cryptocurrency market data fluctuation and should be fixed once payment is received. Fixed-rate mode - rates are fixed for 45 minutes after order creation and are subject to update every next 45 minutes if there is no incoming payment present.
Customer payment: There are no requirements for the amount to send; however, if a customer sends an amount that exceeds our minimum or maximum balance to convert, a customer will be eligible for a refund which is performed automatically. The min/max balance information is shown to users before creating orders and during operations.
Our payment: We will execute a payment to the customer once the receiving amount reaches sufficient network confirmations and is within our minimum or maximum balance to convert. The min/max balance information is shown to users before creating orders and during operations.
Refunds: Refund operations are fully automatic. We do not charge refund fees; customers can select a desirable network fee for their refunds (depending on a cryptocurrency network). ERC-20 token refunds are performed by sending a user a private key of a funding address.
Support: Customers should use a contact form on our site to create support tickets. Customers are also given a per-order support chat on each exchange, where they can receive specific information relevant to their exchange operation. Support answer time depends on its current load and should be, at most, 12 hours.
Prohibited jurisdictions: None (we are unable to detect the customer's country anyway because we have IP-logging disabled and none of our software pieces process such information)
Quote from: https://exch.cx/tos
Eligibility: Any person can create and perform exchange operations on our service. We do not discriminate or have any rejection criteria.
Rates: Dynamic rate mode - rates are updated according to cryptocurrency market data fluctuation and should be fixed once payment is received. Fixed rate mode - rates are fixed for 45 minutes after order creation and are subject to update every next 45 minutes if there is no incoming payment present.
Customer payment: There are no requirements of amount to send, however, in case customer sends an amount that exceeds our minimum or maximum balance to convert, a customer will be eligible for refund which is performed automatically. The information of min/max balance is shown to users prior to creating orders and during operations.
Our payment: We will execute a payment to customer once the receiving amount reached sufficient network confirmations and doesn't exceed our minimum or maximum balance to convert. The information of min/max balance is shown to users prior to creating orders and during operations.
Refunds: Refund operations are fully automatic. We don't charge any fees for refunds and customers are able to select desirable network fee for their refunds (depending on a cryptocurrency network). ERC-20 token refunds are performed by sending a private key of a funding address to a user.
Support: Customers should use a contact form on our site to create support tickets. Customers are also given a per-order support chat on each exchange, where they can receive specific information relevant to their exchange operation. Support answer time depends on its current load and shouldn't exceed 12 hours.
Prohibited jurisdictions: None (we are unable to detect customers country anyway because we have IP-logging disabled and none of our software pieces process such information)
Privacy policy:
We do not collect any metadata from customers. We have IP address logging disabled on all of the following end-points of our service: reverse-proxies, caching servers and backend servers (API). Exchange-related information such as from/to/refund addresses of operations are deleted from our service after 15 days, except when users decide to remove exchange-related information by themselves by pressing a "Delete data" button available within complete exchange operations, immediately making all the exchange operation data unrecoverable and not available for further extraction/querying.
Rates: Dynamic rate mode - rates are updated according to cryptocurrency market data fluctuation and should be fixed once payment is received. Fixed rate mode - rates are fixed for 45 minutes after order creation and are subject to update every next 45 minutes if there is no incoming payment present.
Customer payment: There are no requirements of amount to send, however, in case customer sends an amount that exceeds our minimum or maximum balance to convert, a customer will be eligible for refund which is performed automatically. The information of min/max balance is shown to users prior to creating orders and during operations.
Our payment: We will execute a payment to customer once the receiving amount reached sufficient network confirmations and doesn't exceed our minimum or maximum balance to convert. The information of min/max balance is shown to users prior to creating orders and during operations.
Refunds: Refund operations are fully automatic. We don't charge any fees for refunds and customers are able to select desirable network fee for their refunds (depending on a cryptocurrency network). ERC-20 token refunds are performed by sending a private key of a funding address to a user.
Support: Customers should use a contact form on our site to create support tickets. Customers are also given a per-order support chat on each exchange, where they can receive specific information relevant to their exchange operation. Support answer time depends on its current load and shouldn't exceed 12 hours.
Prohibited jurisdictions: None (we are unable to detect customers country anyway because we have IP-logging disabled and none of our software pieces process such information)
Privacy policy:
We do not collect any metadata from customers. We have IP address logging disabled on all of the following end-points of our service: reverse-proxies, caching servers and backend servers (API). Exchange-related information such as from/to/refund addresses of operations are deleted from our service after 15 days, except when users decide to remove exchange-related information by themselves by pressing a "Delete data" button available within complete exchange operations, immediately making all the exchange operation data unrecoverable and not available for further extraction/querying.
May 23, 2023, 04:56:55 PM
Bettercallraul.it is now totally offline, we can't see the "has been seized" page anymore..
If we needed confirmation that this was a scam, I think we now fully have it
If we needed confirmation that this was a scam, I think we now fully have it
May 23, 2023, 04:44:18 PM
Yes it is not tired to my neck. And It is a personal opinion and decision to my end. So there is no big deal there. I am about to use mixers to mix my coins but it will be a reputable on. But I said so because of what is happening to the mixing companies but later I also discovered that BetterCallRaul was not a mixer company but an exchange platform. I am going to use YoMix to test my mixing experience. So you don't have to castigate me from your own understanding of my semantic pour out.
But you just said "Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable". It's a clear stance It means all mixers are unreliable and should not be allowed here again. One wonders why you are still advertising an unreliable service.It's your opinion but quite hypocritical given that you wear a signature of one of them. I don't know what they would think about your opinion
May 23, 2023, 01:13:22 PM
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This is very bad of them. Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable.
This is very bad of them. Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable.
Funny how you say this and still have a mixer in your signature space.
You should also live by what you preach since you're sure that mixers are not good for the forum you should start by dissociating yourself from them.
May 23, 2023, 12:04:30 PM
This should've been posted a few hours ago but I was busy - I contacted KycNot.Me to ask them to remove their listing, and they struck down the website immediately.
Rugpulls will not be tolerated by the community, especially if they are masquerading as privacy-friendly services.
Rugpulls will not be tolerated by the community, especially if they are masquerading as privacy-friendly services.
May 23, 2023, 11:33:49 AM
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This is very bad of them. Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable.
This is very bad of them. Mixers should not be allowed in the forum again because they are not reliable.
Funny how you say this and still have a mixer in your signature space.
You should also live by what you preach since you're sure that mixers are not good for the forum you should start by dissociating yourself from them.
May 23, 2023, 06:25:21 AM
I thought this exchange could be the third option for me to use DEX in case there's a better offer than in Bisq or Agoradesk, but since the exchange not accept cash, I'm still not interested to use it.
If you're use someone picture, you need to quote the poster, not only took the picture
I haven't used the site, but from what I've seen, it wasn't decentralized.
Yeah it's not decentralized or peer to peer, it's like an instant swap service where people are trade with the exchange, not people to people. But at least it's no KYC, can access via Tor and no account needed which is the advantage of this exchange.If you're use someone picture, you need to quote the poster, not only took the picture
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May 23, 2023, 05:51:17 AM
They had their own token $RAUL.
That brings me back to ICO-times with shady pump and Quote
the total value was 1.4 million
For a small site created 3 months ago 
People never learn 
May 23, 2023, 04:24:21 AM
- If it's an exit scam, it makes no sense to pretend to be seized while they could still be collecting deposits. And nobody so far said they've been scammed.
They had their own token $RAUL. At some point, the total value was 1.4 million https://www.geckoterminal.com/eth/pools/0xe786c0da51a21c8f7ec91c9889e2df3f21ee1747?utm_source=coingecko&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=searchresults
I don't know when the token was released and how much investor money was collected, or maybe it just didn't go fast enough to cover all the costs.
At the time when the domain was seized, they posted on Twitter about the buyback https://twitter.com/BCRaul_it/status/1660607333511077889
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☎️ #BetterCallRaul will continue unannounced buybacks.
Timing remains a mystery, but brace yourself for increasing buy sizes. 💸
HODL tight, the future is promising!
TOTAL BUYBACK SINCE LAUNCH:
• Buybacks = 183,383.84 $RAUL
• Spent = 1.65 $ETH
https://etherscan.io/token/0x546f3b64a317ab001a5ac5e882ca28d2a051c20a?a=0x35c3dc11083302f6650428091b1b2cb3f670743a
Timing remains a mystery, but brace yourself for increasing buy sizes. 💸
HODL tight, the future is promising!
TOTAL BUYBACK SINCE LAUNCH:
• Buybacks = 183,383.84 $RAUL
• Spent = 1.65 $ETH
https://etherscan.io/token/0x546f3b64a317ab001a5ac5e882ca28d2a051c20a?a=0x35c3dc11083302f6650428091b1b2cb3f670743a
May 23, 2023, 02:16:17 AM
It's either seized or it's an exit scam.
and less likely website hack.
None of this makes sense:- If it's hacked, I'd expect the hacker to replace deposit addresses to steal funds.
- If it's seized, I'd expect the DNS entry to be changed. I wouldn't expect to recycle CM's logo, and I wouldn't expect the exact same list of government organisations to be involved.
- If it's an exit scam, it makes no sense to pretend to be seized while they could still be collecting deposits. And nobody so far said they've been scammed.
- If they just quit because it's not profitable, they could have just said so.
Bettercallraul is ~ a decentralized, no KYC exchanger, fully private, etc...
I haven't used the site, but from what I've seen, it wasn't decentralized. Jump to: