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Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 231. (Read 704531 times)

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I can see a BCH split sometime this year with the amount of disagreements going off though

Hmm. So are you saying that BCH:
1) is tightly controlled by a centralized cabal; or
2) splintering in fractious discord?

It can't be both. Pick a narrative and stick with it, willya?

1- Both Bcash has a following of gullible people that believe everything that some claim like CSW, Ver etc because they don't have the technical knowledge to know any different so "trust" in someone that appears very smart

2- But as more changes are happening there is more friction being created as the changes are being forced through a HF with a either upgrade or f##k off approach and the smarter ones are starting to speak out and will eventually leave the cartel by eather forking off again or going back to BTC


3- While BTC is using a much safer SF method where if you agree with changes you can upgrade without issues and if you do not agree and don't upgrade you won't be forced off the network and everything will run just as before



1- Bitcoin cash is not followed by gullible people, its followed by people that want bitcoin to be bitcoin, not a 2nd layer controlled by blockstream...a company..for profit.
   OG btc was hijacked, using node exploit they stole the Bitcoin name and brand by segwetters, the thing is they call themselves btc Maximilists but always refer to using ltc as a payment method...hmmm
   maybe they are really litecoiners that hijacked btc.

2- segwet is a HF.
Everything you said at point 2 is your answer for Bitcoin cash being here today....we were not happy with the HF on og btc,
"so the smarter ones are starting to speak out and will eventually leave the cartel(blockstream) by either forking off again or going back to BTC "via BCH.  

3- btc is not using a safer SF , stop lying...it is a HF
    If you dont update everything runs  like before ,slow and expensive.if you want cheaper and faster tx on btc segwet you have to
    update and more.


1. Blockstream did not invent lightning and do not control the protocol layer

Blockstream does not have any commit access to any full node/wallet repos not even the core one all they can do is submit a BIP with supporting code and hope it gets enough interest to be accepted

2. No segwit is a SF you can use any earlier client even one from a few years ago without segwit and it will still stay on the BTC chain

Hell you could even fork off the latest core client and remove all segwit and it would still follow the BTC chain but why go to that extreme when you can simply turn off segwit in the config file under 0.16.0 thus option was not available under 0.15.x because segwit was not the default format and you had to OPT IN

Or use knots that does not use segwit by default yet and remains in consensus with the BTC chain

3. And again you don't have to upgrade yes it costs more on legacy due to having a lower WU but that's a user option not a forced option

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Bitcoin cash is the most effective bit of bitcoin, and I think it will cost over fifty percent of the price of bitcoin within 1-2 many years.
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I can see a BCH split sometime this year with the amount of disagreements going off though

Hmm. So are you saying that BCH:
1) is tightly controlled by a centralized cabal; or
2) splintering in fractious discord?

It can't be both. Pick a narrative and stick with it, willya?

1- Both Bcash has a following of gullible people that believe everything that some claim like CSW, Ver etc because they don't have the technical knowledge to know any different so "trust" in someone that appears very smart

2- But as more changes are happening there is more friction being created as the changes are being forced through a HF with a either upgrade or f##k off approach and the smarter ones are starting to speak out and will eventually leave the cartel by eather forking off again or going back to BTC


3- While BTC is using a much safer SF method where if you agree with changes you can upgrade without issues and if you do not agree and don't upgrade you won't be forced off the network and everything will run just as before



1- Bitcoin cash is not followed by gullible people, its followed by people that want bitcoin to be bitcoin, not a 2nd layer controlled by blockstream...a company..for profit.
   OG btc was hijacked, using node exploit they stole the Bitcoin name and brand by segwetters, the thing is they call themselves btc Maximilists but always refer to using ltc as a payment method...hmmm
   maybe they are really litecoiners that hijacked btc.

2- segwet is a HF.
Everything you said at point 2 is your answer for Bitcoin cash being here today....we were not happy with the HF on og btc,
"so the smarter ones are starting to speak out and will eventually leave the cartel(blockstream) by either forking off again or going back to BTC "via BCH.  

3- btc is not using a safer SF , stop lying...it is a HF
    If you dont update everything runs  like before ,slow and expensive.if you want cheaper and faster tx on btc segwet you have to
    update and more.
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I can see a BCH split sometime this year with the amount of disagreements going off though

Hmm. So are you saying that BCH:
1) is tightly controlled by a centralized cabal; or
2) splintering in fractious discord?

It can't be both. Pick a narrative and stick with it, willya?

Both Bcash has a following of gullible people that believe everything that some claim like CSW, Ver etc because they don't have the technical knowledge to know any different so "trust" in someone that appears very smart

But as more changes are happening there is more friction being created as the changes are being forced through a HF with a either upgrade or f##k off approach and the smarter ones are starting to speak out and will eventually leave the cartel by eather forking off again or going back to BTC

I've noticed some have recently started following lightning labs etc and could already be weighing up the best approach going forward.

While BTC is using a much safer SF method where if you agree with changes you can upgrade without issues and if you do not agree and don't upgrade you won't be forced off the network and everything will run just as before

My LN nodes are running just fine not had any issues with them I've opened and closed a few now using the various different implementations with my latest being LND

https://1ml.com/node/0353849a780d7ae1b27567d83a20302cc49af057eef883d5eca6446e3900e99567/history

There's not much on it around 1 million Satoshis fee free to steal them you know with it being to easy and all that

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Coinmarketcap is showing marketcap using a false economy of (coinsupply*value)=marketcap

that screen is showing how much each coin has fallen and what percentage it needs to regain its prior status

'How much each coin has fallen', as measured by...?

By current value thus is completely different to marketcap

Current value is just a on the spot market valuation per asset/token/coin call it what you want

Yes marketcap is using the same metric but falsly claims every one is valued the same when it is not as it also takes into consideration coins that cannot be spent ones that are lost forever and in the case of BCH ones that may never be split from a BTC balance which are also lost

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BCH rebound is relatively weak, and the positions can be thrown away. Personal feeling BCH will experience a big fall again, and the test will be more consistent with the trader.
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I can see a BCH split sometime this year with the amount of disagreements going off though

Hmm. So are you saying that BCH:
1) is tightly controlled by a centralized cabal; or
2) splintering in fractious discord?

It can't be both. Pick a narrative and stick with it, willya?
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
Coinmarketcap is showing marketcap using a false economy of (coinsupply*value)=marketcap

that screen is showing how much each coin has fallen and what percentage it needs to regain its prior status

'How much each coin has fallen', as measured by...?
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Building up some buy support ...before the next huge drop down...all coins....
Gd luck  Smiley
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If bcash community starts getting rid of all the scammers in their community. (beginning with Craig Faketoshi Wright) Well, that's bad news folks... There won't be a community left when they finish the job.

Craig is gone, do the same for Roger Ver.

Here is some material for you to begin your study:
https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858

Is Craig Wright gone from the BCH project?

No there are still a few more gullible people to scam but most are now starting to call him out as the fraud he is I can see a BCH split sometime this year with the amount of disagreements going off though

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If bcash community starts getting rid of all the scammers in their community. (beginning with Craig Faketoshi Wright) Well, that's bad news folks... There won't be a community left when they finish the job.

Craig is gone, do the same for Roger Ver.

Here is some material for you to begin your study:
https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858

Is Craig Wright gone from the BCH project?
hv_
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Clean Code and Scale
Actually Twitter TOP ceo has spent a large amount of money to help financial Lighting together with a large listing of others within the technology globe

Hmm, funny. I was told the genius things are coming for free once the PoW is done be the genius itself.

Example: Bitcoin on-chain 


Anyway, we might need more drama to attract more media out there....

Bitcoin, if run decentralized and censorship resistant does not need any particular heros.

Some might need these to get over their own brain shortage. As a German and having parents telling me direct from 'our' war, I know best not to follow anybody or any company with cosed eyes.

Think yourself and analyze the trolls here

 Grin
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If bcash community starts getting rid of all the scammers in their community. (beginning with Craig Faketoshi Wright) Well, that's bad news folks... There won't be a community left when they finish the job.

Craig is gone, do the same for Roger Ver.

Here is some material for you to begin your study:
https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858
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Actually Twitter TOP ceo has spent a large amount of money to help financial Lighting together with a large listing of others within the technology globe
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BCH community recently convened technology development in China to participate in BCH technology development. The development of this bitcoin's forked currency is still worth looking forward to.

BCH will do well in china they like everything closed of and propriety to their country

BCH is a fitting too because it can easily be rebranded to BitcoinCHina
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BCH community recently convened technology development in China to participate in BCH technology development. The development of this bitcoin's forked currency is still worth looking forward to.
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When CSW has access to Sat's 1 mill BTC wallet.. He can call himself what ever he want's lol. Cheesy


Even some of the bigger BCH supporters think CSW is full of shit



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some of the most pump altcoins actually are top coins listed on coinmarketcap

coinmarketcap listings are complete BS ...

So of course, you posted a CMC screencap in order to try to slag.

Brilliant!

Jokes on you it's not coinmarketcap  Roll Eyes

https://athda.com/

Mea culpa. And the difference in the source data is...?

Coinmarketcap is showing marketcap using a false economy of (coinsupply*value)=marketcap

that screen is showing how much each coin has fallen and what percentage it needs to regain its prior status

quite different really  Wink

So both reached their peak 3 months ago

Using current data
BTC has lost 172.85% of its value
BCH has lost 518.51% of its value

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some of the most pump altcoins actually are top coins listed on coinmarketcap

coinmarketcap listings are complete BS ...

So of course, you posted a CMC screencap in order to try to slag.

Brilliant!

Jokes on you it's not coinmarketcap  Roll Eyes

https://athda.com/

Mea culpa. And the difference in the source data is...?
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some of the most pump altcoins actually are top coins listed on coinmarketcap

coinmarketcap listings are complete BS ...

So of course, you posted a CMC screencap in order to try to slag.

Brilliant!

Jokes on you it's not coinmarketcap  Roll Eyes

https://athda.com/
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