Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Mixing Services (Read 591 times)

I don't remember technical detail of Samourai, but Wasabi:
1. Uses Tor by default
2. Uses BIP 157/neutrino which improve privacy of SPV wallet
3. Will use your own full node (if you run one)

Don't compare Wasabi with other SPV wallet such as Electrum.

I totally know how Wasabi wallet operate and I dont compare it either with other SPV wallet cause they are not using the same technology to provide there service but you saying you'll use both Samourai and Wasabi over any kinds of mixer is the reason why I said in a situation when anonymity is important it not advisable to use only SPV wallet cause there are some information that the UTXO of privacy wallet can be breach what was said by Cipher trace and OXT research.

I think you miss the part all SPV wallets cant be used alone when security/anonymity is the top priority and with the statement made by CipherTrace, chain analysis, etc I think people need to be more careful when using SPV wallet. Mind you, the shortcoming detected about Wasabi that a large amount of transaction can be bypass and I once a thread where Theymos advise the use of a mixer and SPV wallet when anonymity is the top priority.

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it seemed to me that OP answered the question and even offered to test in practice what @xenon131 is asking. or maybe I got it wrong!

disclaimer: I as a participant in the signature campaign want to make it clear that I am being neutral here!

Spelling aside, you do realise you just wrote a single sentence that went on for four whole lines and contains seven commas?  It's almost as though you've just thrown random words together in the hopes they mean something.  And, it doesn't answer the question posed to you.

Terminology is a mutex in the lexicography of Bitcoin  where we  equate many views of the same operations with only one truth rather than an expanding model including differential references. UTXO's, true but in the mind of the user that is a wallet address, in many cases several UTXO's a set of even if some are reused.

Let m e establish a testing protocol if you have some Bitcoin to mix anyway and choose to participate. This is suggested because I do not have the answer, there are two intermediate buckets in the diagram, however, an undefined limit of input sources to those buckets, even where the relationship to the bucket is undetectable we suppose, and that the return from a mixing deposit transaction is not immediate but with some delay, so to establish a mixing session and then make multiple deposits immediately subsequent to each other and all greater than 0.005 BTC in value, then to observe or better to analyse the resultant returns. Often, I am mixing en-route concisely with the making of a payment in which case my wallet is certainly disconnected, but, I am still able to monitor the receiving address(es). If you consider?

Long overdue since Go-Overt allowed me to test their mixer. I had some issues with my wallet, and couldn't access coins so far. But anyway, here's my two cents:

The overall experience is very seamless. From the moment you initiate the form to the point where you send the coins to the address the site shows, it's all very fast. Go-Overt even gave me a dynamic update the moment the transaction hit the blockchain, telling me to keep checking for confirmations. I'd say the experience is very simple and easy to get into, so that's a big plus.

The service seems to be based on privacy quite a bit and from my experience fits all the requirements for a mixer with good privacy. HTTPS and PGP & TOR are all there for those looking to utilize extra privacy in every step of the way. The transaction time to get the coins back is up to 6 hours which sadly doesn't seem to have an option for adjustment. But that's also in par with standards for better privacy when mixing.
Not that I'm an expert, but I couldn't find anything making the transaction I got seem like it was from a mixer or anything I could identify. The system behind the website seems to be doing a lot for good mixing, so perhaps those that are more knowledgeable could appreciate it even more. My only feedback for something to change would be to potentially offer a slider to adjust max time (at expense of privacy). Also there's a generated and signed letter of guarantee for each transaction, which is nice.

Overall the core service seems of good quality and I would recommend it to those interested.

It is worth questioning, it was more than months ago. I took note of what was said at the time but, not to create a reference, only thinking how good it was to have a consistent view now, nonetheless, it is in the public media released on free-to-air television, or on MSN or similar, I believe taken in Canberra published not more than three-and-a-half Years ago, and at least eighteen-months ago. The actual words are more like, 'in Australia Bitccoin is (handled/treated) the same as a foreign currency.' and, to explain, it is not a foreign currency and it has not been said.

Archived for future reference:  [1a], [1b]


I call you out on that one.  Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been talking about the Covid-19 pandemic for months to the exclusion of nearly everything else.

Where are you quoting from?

I agree with you, chipmixer is really the best bitcoin mixer at the moment. But I believe that new services should appear on the market. This is progress  

You imagine the operation of the technology that I employ for Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 to be simple like a regular implementation. In fact, it is difficult. It is possible to use a VPN to connect a server to Cloudflare so that it has no external IP addresses and it is a good service, reasonably secure.

Nothing on the internet is impervious to inspection and you should presume all traffic is inspected even if it is not necessarily. That is why people prefer The Onion.

Anyway, what person is busted using a legal service legally? As it is the platform is a modular and mixing Bitcoin cannot be wrong, it is not an attempt to hide from the legitimate government.
Even if you ignore this attached document it is referenced here.
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/87694/75001

-DA.

The free mix is to trial service and is only for deposit amount of 0.001 BTC

You have identified one main advantage, it is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but you can see on the posts above yours that they admit participants and moderate incoming Bitcoin supply.

0.005 BTC is not very much, likely the amount will reduce as the value of Bitcoin increases.

I have not looked at Samourai but in the case of Wasabi consider that the conjoin mechanism may not resilient to some forms of attack.

-DA.

Well, their feature of admitting public participation could be an advantage: it increases the complexity of joins and potential volume of mixing, I suppose at critical mass it could easily be the biggest mixpool.

It's also a potential disadvantage though. If their algos aren't good enough, or people find a way to bypass it, then you actually introduce identification pathways to your clients.

It is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but I think Chipmixer is the king for now.
You will have to work hard to compete with them, as minimum deposit is 0.005 BTC compared to Chipmixer 0.001 BTC. That is five times more!
Free mixing option is interesting idea but service fee is a bit high for full version (4.9%+0.0007 BTC)

Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?

What is the need to use Cloudflare's SSL, there are alternatives as letsencrypt...Good for a blog maybe but as a mixer CF is a NO, NO, NO as everything is unencrypted.

Cloudflare is able to know and collect visitors' IPs, what's inside the letter of guarantee, what's the deposit address, bla bla bla
Perfect to get the address source and the destination

Imagine an agency sending a request to CF, the person is busted...

They had contacted me a long time ago, I suggest them to create ANN thread first on this forum (I was in the Jambler chat group from a long time). Eventually, they contacted me again today about run their signature campaign. But I have suggested them to run a review campaign before running a signature campaign. Even they have sent me a small amount of funds as an escrow. But there some issue regarding minimum mixing amount, its 0.005BTC for Start Bitcoin Anonymization. And for the Mix Coins For Free its 0.001BTC. So we are on the discussion regarding the review/signature campaign. Also, high transaction fees are another issue lately. Hope tomorrow we can reach on a final decision.

as your site is very new i think you will have to offer small amounts of bitcoin for some forum members to test your site and post here how everything went on your site, this will bring positive feedbacks about your site

you can also buy advertising here on the forum and you can run a signature campaign here on the forum to promote your site

I am aware from those working separately on other partnerships with [banned mixer] that they often reject Bitcoin deposits depending on several factors but also the traceable history of Bitcoin in the transaction, for example they may be linked back to a heist or high-risk casino I suspect.

I invite you to trial the mixer and post back with your success, you can see I have attached now also some data to the announcement, however, you can mix for free minus your transaction fee (send exactly 0.001 BTC plus fee) if you use the Mix Coins For Free button to see how it works?

-DA.

Wouldn't a user achieve much of the same mixing simply by depositing into any number of exchanges on his own? And then simply request withdrawals from all of them. They would at least that way ensure (as far as they can trust an exchange anyway) that they get back their funds. Either way, your service already looks slightly different from the rest if you're promising only "clean" exchanges (that definition's arguable no? ) and a way to "participate" (https://[banned mixer]/become-seller.php).

Where was 1.0 thread? I'd like to have a look =)