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Quote from: Fielding on April 27, 2015, 12:15:38 AM

Quote from: twoturtles on April 27, 2015, 12:04:46 AM

Quote from: richiela on April 26, 2015, 03:21:56 PM

Sorry for the long silence, it takes time to sort out things like this. As per our usual response, if we detect something wrong with a blockchain where the dev _might_ be involved, I like to post a public statement so everyone has the same information at the same time. Exchanges were informed earlier today when our security measures kicked off.

There seems to be a problem with the "lucky" staking code from what we can tell at this time. There are blocks that were accepted with POS rewards up to 3.3M which is why outside the rate for the coin. Additionally, as of right now there are way more coins in existence than the wallet thinks there should be:

   "balance" : 24751980.90800208,
   "stake" : 0.00000000,
   "blocks" : 4655,
   "timeoffset" : 0,
   "moneysupply" : 21073266.40374496,

This is our current supply. C-Cex and yobit have another combined 5-6M. At this time, we don't know if this is malicious or an error in the staking code. We have cancelled all orders on the market and closed the wallet for the time being. If the devs can please contact us and come up with a solution, we will reopen the market. If we an agreed solution cannot be agreed upon, we will close the market and open the wallet for withdrawal only.

thanks,
richie@bittrex

Hi folks,

So after staring at richie's message for a bit in deep thought and looking through this code a bit thus far I've come up with a theory for what is likely to have happened here.

1. Nearing the end of the PoW phase, there was a fork to "fix" a stuck block
2. Caught up in the launch and mining, etc. no one seemed to notice the diffs in the commits (if they were even shown on the repo, and it wasn't a wiped/fresh push as if it was the original).
3. There was a deposit that tripped the alert and as we've seen that sent the balance well-over what the reported money supply claimed to be in circulation.
4. In the previous version, the code likely rewarded that particular person's address incorrectly and being that there is no block explorer, made it even harder to trace what was transpiring on the chain
5. Knowing that everyone would be caught up in the "bug" that stuck the chain near end of PoW and eager to see the issue resolved so they could continue mining, the new code was forked off
6. Being that the repo has been removed, it's impossible to tell what exactly they changed between the commits (that was intentional) as of right now.

So at this point I'm going through the code for anomalies that stand out in terms of masking the true money supply, transactions, credits, etc. infernoman from my team is setting up a block explorer so we can look into this a bit more and hopefully put together a more solid sequence of events.

Best regards,

syntaks

Thank you very much.
Thanks.

Anytime. The block explorer will be a bit more telling.

GetGuap$

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Quote from: twoturtles on April 27, 2015, 12:04:46 AM

Quote from: richiela on April 26, 2015, 03:21:56 PM

Sorry for the long silence, it takes time to sort out things like this. As per our usual response, if we detect something wrong with a blockchain where the dev _might_ be involved, I like to post a public statement so everyone has the same information at the same time. Exchanges were informed earlier today when our security measures kicked off.

There seems to be a problem with the "lucky" staking code from what we can tell at this time. There are blocks that were accepted with POS rewards up to 3.3M which is why outside the rate for the coin. Additionally, as of right now there are way more coins in existence than the wallet thinks there should be:

   "balance" : 24751980.90800208,
   "stake" : 0.00000000,
   "blocks" : 4655,
   "timeoffset" : 0,
   "moneysupply" : 21073266.40374496,

This is our current supply. C-Cex and yobit have another combined 5-6M. At this time, we don't know if this is malicious or an error in the staking code. We have cancelled all orders on the market and closed the wallet for the time being. If the devs can please contact us and come up with a solution, we will reopen the market. If we an agreed solution cannot be agreed upon, we will close the market and open the wallet for withdrawal only.

thanks,
richie@bittrex

Hi folks,

So after staring at richie's message for a bit in deep thought and looking through this code a bit thus far I've come up with a theory for what is likely to have happened here.

1. Nearing the end of the PoW phase, there was a fork to "fix" a stuck block
2. Caught up in the launch and mining, etc. no one seemed to notice the diffs in the commits (if they were even shown on the repo, and it wasn't a wiped/fresh push as if it was the original).
3. There was a deposit that tripped the alert and as we've seen that sent the balance well-over what the reported money supply claimed to be in circulation.
4. In the previous version, the code likely rewarded that particular person's address incorrectly and being that there is no block explorer, made it even harder to trace what was transpiring on the chain
5. Knowing that everyone would be caught up in the "bug" that stuck the chain near end of PoW and eager to see the issue resolved so they could continue mining, the new code was forked off
6. Being that the repo has been removed, it's impossible to tell what exactly they changed between the commits (that was intentional) as of right now.

So at this point I'm going through the code for anomalies that stand out in terms of masking the true money supply, transactions, credits, etc. infernoman from my team is setting up a block explorer so we can look into this a bit more and hopefully put together a more solid sequence of events.

Best regards,

syntaks

Thank you neos. We tweeted a bit ago about this. Thank you for volunteering to look this over & brainstorm a possibly feasible solution.

Fielding

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Quote from: twoturtles on April 27, 2015, 12:04:46 AM

Quote from: richiela on April 26, 2015, 03:21:56 PM

Sorry for the long silence, it takes time to sort out things like this. As per our usual response, if we detect something wrong with a blockchain where the dev _might_ be involved, I like to post a public statement so everyone has the same information at the same time. Exchanges were informed earlier today when our security measures kicked off.

There seems to be a problem with the "lucky" staking code from what we can tell at this time. There are blocks that were accepted with POS rewards up to 3.3M which is why outside the rate for the coin. Additionally, as of right now there are way more coins in existence than the wallet thinks there should be:

   "balance" : 24751980.90800208,
   "stake" : 0.00000000,
   "blocks" : 4655,
   "timeoffset" : 0,
   "moneysupply" : 21073266.40374496,

This is our current supply. C-Cex and yobit have another combined 5-6M. At this time, we don't know if this is malicious or an error in the staking code. We have cancelled all orders on the market and closed the wallet for the time being. If the devs can please contact us and come up with a solution, we will reopen the market. If we an agreed solution cannot be agreed upon, we will close the market and open the wallet for withdrawal only.

thanks,
richie@bittrex

Hi folks,

So after staring at richie's message for a bit in deep thought and looking through this code a bit thus far I've come up with a theory for what is likely to have happened here.

1. Nearing the end of the PoW phase, there was a fork to "fix" a stuck block
2. Caught up in the launch and mining, etc. no one seemed to notice the diffs in the commits (if they were even shown on the repo, and it wasn't a wiped/fresh push as if it was the original).
3. There was a deposit that tripped the alert and as we've seen that sent the balance well-over what the reported money supply claimed to be in circulation.
4. In the previous version, the code likely rewarded that particular person's address incorrectly and being that there is no block explorer, made it even harder to trace what was transpiring on the chain
5. Knowing that everyone would be caught up in the "bug" that stuck the chain near end of PoW and eager to see the issue resolved so they could continue mining, the new code was forked off
6. Being that the repo has been removed, it's impossible to tell what exactly they changed between the commits (that was intentional) as of right now.

So at this point I'm going through the code for anomalies that stand out in terms of masking the true money supply, transactions, credits, etc. infernoman from my team is setting up a block explorer so we can look into this a bit more and hopefully put together a more solid sequence of events.

Best regards,

syntaks

Thank you very much.
Thanks.

twoturtles

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Quote from: richiela on April 26, 2015, 03:21:56 PM

Sorry for the long silence, it takes time to sort out things like this. As per our usual response, if we detect something wrong with a blockchain where the dev _might_ be involved, I like to post a public statement so everyone has the same information at the same time. Exchanges were informed earlier today when our security measures kicked off.

There seems to be a problem with the "lucky" staking code from what we can tell at this time. There are blocks that were accepted with POS rewards up to 3.3M which is why outside the rate for the coin. Additionally, as of right now there are way more coins in existence than the wallet thinks there should be:

   "balance" : 24751980.90800208,
   "stake" : 0.00000000,
   "blocks" : 4655,
   "timeoffset" : 0,
   "moneysupply" : 21073266.40374496,

This is our current supply. C-Cex and yobit have another combined 5-6M. At this time, we don't know if this is malicious or an error in the staking code. We have cancelled all orders on the market and closed the wallet for the time being. If the devs can please contact us and come up with a solution, we will reopen the market. If we an agreed solution cannot be agreed upon, we will close the market and open the wallet for withdrawal only.

thanks,
richie@bittrex

Hi folks,

So after staring at richie's message for a bit in deep thought and looking through this code a bit thus far I've come up with a theory for what is likely to have happened here.

1. Nearing the end of the PoW phase, there was a fork to "fix" a stuck block
2. Caught up in the launch and mining, etc. no one seemed to notice the diffs in the commits (if they were even shown on the repo, and it wasn't a wiped/fresh push as if it was the original).
3. There was a deposit that tripped the alert and as we've seen that sent the balance well-over what the reported money supply claimed to be in circulation.
4. In the previous version, the code likely rewarded that particular person's address incorrectly and being that there is no block explorer, made it even harder to trace what was transpiring on the chain
5. Knowing that everyone would be caught up in the "bug" that stuck the chain near end of PoW and eager to see the issue resolved so they could continue mining, the new code was forked off
6. Being that the repo has been removed, it's impossible to tell what exactly they changed between the commits (that was intentional) as of right now.

So at this point I'm going through the code for anomalies that stand out in terms of masking the true money supply, transactions, credits, etc. infernoman from my team is setting up a block explorer so we can look into this a bit more and hopefully put together a more solid sequence of events.

Best regards,

syntaks

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Quote from: CryptoClub on April 26, 2015, 11:07:55 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

What's happened is sad and very bad for all the cryptocoins but you all have a responsability.
You guys need to stop pumping every shitcoin with greed and blinded eyes. Like that Grin

Make some search before.
I follow every new coin and when I seen the OP of that BitcoinT shit, I laugh much and I was sure that I would not invest in that shit for two reasons.
1) The three dick heads in the OP. I make some search on google with their names and on google images with their dick heads and I don't found anything related to these scammers.
2) Their slogan just right under their logo: Cryptocurrency for the people.

I feel bad for all guys who lose money and don't take my post like an offense. We can all fall in the trap of these scammers but please, make some search before hyping and pumping a new coin with your BTC. Feeding these scammers is fucking the whole cryptoworld.
Good luck to all and take care.

Between the anon newbie devs, and I guess "devs" using fake identities, about 95% of the coins coming out on Bitcointalk are just bullshit. There is always the argument that Satoshi was anonymous, but in time we are going to end up with tons of regulations because we can't regulate ourselves. Still, expecting people to not be greedy or self interested in cryptos won't help. Ideally everyone would just agree to buy the best technology or only from the most established teams, but what are the odds of that actually happening? Lastly, the FUD on legit projects also hurts since we hear "SCAM!" so much it is like crying wolf, and easier to miss the scam when it actually is one.

Looks like European guys won this battle and went away with pockets full of Bitcoins. Grin

why is so many stupid peeps who're easy to screw up for BTC?
Any bull shit showing new at market ,peeps jumping and giving away they money for some three butheads???

Fielding

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Quote from: CryptoClub on April 26, 2015, 11:07:55 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

What's happened is sad and very bad for all the cryptocoins but you all have a responsability.
You guys need to stop pumping every shitcoin with greed and blinded eyes. Like that Grin

Make some search before.
I follow every new coin and when I seen the OP of that BitcoinT shit, I laugh much and I was sure that I would not invest in that shit for two reasons.
1) The three dick heads in the OP. I make some search on google with their names and on google images with their dick heads and I don't found anything related to these scammers.
2) Their slogan just right under their logo: Cryptocurrency for the people.

I feel bad for all guys who lose money and don't take my post like an offense. We can all fall in the trap of these scammers but please, make some search before hyping and pumping a new coin with your BTC. Feeding these scammers is fucking the whole cryptoworld.
Good luck to all and take care.

Between the anon newbie devs, and I guess "devs" using fake identities, about 95% of the coins coming out on Bitcointalk are just bullshit. There is always the argument that Satoshi was anonymous, but in time we are going to end up with tons of regulations because we can't regulate ourselves. Still, expecting people to not be greedy or self interested in cryptos won't help. Ideally everyone would just agree to buy the best technology or only from the most established teams, but what are the odds of that actually happening? Lastly, the FUD on legit projects also hurts since we hear "SCAM!" so much it is like crying wolf, and easier to miss the scam when it actually is one.

agree with this.. so many scam everyday.

CryptoClub

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Quote from: ?? on ??

What's happened is sad and very bad for all the cryptocoins but you all have a responsability.
You guys need to stop pumping every shitcoin with greed and blinded eyes. Like that Grin

Make some search before.
I follow every new coin and when I seen the OP of that BitcoinT shit, I laugh much and I was sure that I would not invest in that shit for two reasons.
1) The three dick heads in the OP. I make some search on google with their names and on google images with their dick heads and I don't found anything related to these scammers.
2) Their slogan just right under their logo: Cryptocurrency for the people.

I feel bad for all guys who lose money and don't take my post like an offense. We can all fall in the trap of these scammers but please, make some search before hyping and pumping a new coin with your BTC. Feeding these scammers is fucking the whole cryptoworld.
Good luck to all and take care.

Between the anon newbie devs, and I guess "devs" using fake identities, about 95% of the coins coming out on Bitcointalk are just bullshit. There is always the argument that Satoshi was anonymous, but in time we are going to end up with tons of regulations because we can't regulate ourselves. Still, expecting people to not be greedy or self interested in cryptos won't help. Ideally everyone would just agree to buy the best technology or only from the most established teams, but what are the odds of that actually happening? Lastly, the FUD on legit projects also hurts since we hear "SCAM!" so much it is like crying wolf, and easier to miss the scam when it actually is one.

Mig-23

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sometimes i wonder,why bittrex only put short term coin
pump and dump coin,why the priority only profits,no care with people who lose the money
are they never doing research before adding new coin,.it save for the investor or not
how long they in cryptocurrency,....until they dont know anything about good coin or bad coin
i just hope in future no people calling bittrex as THE BEST PLACE FOR EXCHANGE SCAM COIN

ObscureBean

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Ok, apparently I missed a crucial episode, so is it game over already? Cry

Has it been confirmed that this is a scam or is there still a chance that the devs are legit? Lol and here I was thinking I'd finally hit a good coin after a loooong string of bad investments, man that sucks Cheesy

iqlimasyadiqa

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ohhh . please anyone in here takeover ? many people lost our Btc .. Cry

alvena

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sell some NAV bro, another crapcoin, dont cry,

scott btc

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Quote from: twoturtles on April 26, 2015, 09:52:05 PM

Quote from: Fielding on April 26, 2015, 09:49:15 PM

Quote from: twoturtles on April 26, 2015, 09:15:16 PM

Hi folks,

I'm trying to get a copy of the original source so I can review it. I see that the repo has been removed. Out of some sheer curiosity I also Googled the first two team members. I can't seem to turn up anything on them - almost as if they're fabricated characters. I could be wrong, but I went through some translated pages to try to find any related development work with the names involved. Regardless, at this point it seems that there are quite a few people with a vested interest here and I hate to see people get scammed albeit a small or large amount. If someone could turn up a copy of the source we can see what options there are towards some sort of balanced resolution if any.

During this vulnerable/sensitive time, I'd strongly emphasize that folks do not download anything posted such as "new wallet here" responses as they could very well be wallet stealers/trojans/etc. If this can somehow be resolved, we'll get it resolved.

Best regards,

syntaks

Quote from: MaGNeT on April 26, 2015, 04:25:17 PM

I put all the files for BitcoinT on a file-dump location:

Github source: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_mirror/bitcoint-master.zip
Windows client: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_win_client/bitcoint-qt.zip
BlockChain to fix stuck at block #1690 problem: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_roaming/BitcoinT.zip

Graphics from OP: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_graphics/graphics.zip

Use at own risk.

this maybe help..

if you want to take over BitcoinT,, community maybe help with this.

Thanks.

Thanks a lot!

We need your help ,thanks so much!!!

TrueAnon

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Very sad, another one bites the dust...and as usual crypto folks get the very short end of the stick. Disgusting pig scammer devs win again....trex sure doesn't care, so don't even bother trying to 'take them down'....unless you have major connections. Plain and simple stop buying this new no-name/unproven garbage.

Just look at this pic from the OP......just the look of Rafal would scare me off this crapcoin, HAHA.

scambust

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Goddamn! I knew there's something fishy about those photos as they were not even clickable or select to copy the names. I didn't say a word since I was busy with other coins.

Sorry, guys.

twoturtles

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Quote from: Fielding on April 26, 2015, 09:49:15 PM

Quote from: twoturtles on April 26, 2015, 09:15:16 PM

Hi folks,

I'm trying to get a copy of the original source so I can review it. I see that the repo has been removed. Out of some sheer curiosity I also Googled the first two team members. I can't seem to turn up anything on them - almost as if they're fabricated characters. I could be wrong, but I went through some translated pages to try to find any related development work with the names involved. Regardless, at this point it seems that there are quite a few people with a vested interest here and I hate to see people get scammed albeit a small or large amount. If someone could turn up a copy of the source we can see what options there are towards some sort of balanced resolution if any.

During this vulnerable/sensitive time, I'd strongly emphasize that folks do not download anything posted such as "new wallet here" responses as they could very well be wallet stealers/trojans/etc. If this can somehow be resolved, we'll get it resolved.

Best regards,

syntaks

Quote from: MaGNeT on April 26, 2015, 04:25:17 PM

I put all the files for BitcoinT on a file-dump location:

Github source: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_mirror/bitcoint-master.zip
Windows client: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_win_client/bitcoint-qt.zip
BlockChain to fix stuck at block #1690 problem: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_roaming/BitcoinT.zip

Graphics from OP: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_graphics/graphics.zip

Use at own risk.

this maybe help..

if you want to take over BitcoinT,, community maybe help with this.

Thanks.

Thanks a lot!

Fielding

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Quote from: twoturtles on April 26, 2015, 09:15:16 PM

Hi folks,

I'm trying to get a copy of the original source so I can review it. I see that the repo has been removed. Out of some sheer curiosity I also Googled the first two team members. I can't seem to turn up anything on them - almost as if they're fabricated characters. I could be wrong, but I went through some translated pages to try to find any related development work with the names involved. Regardless, at this point it seems that there are quite a few people with a vested interest here and I hate to see people get scammed albeit a small or large amount. If someone could turn up a copy of the source we can see what options there are towards some sort of balanced resolution if any.

During this vulnerable/sensitive time, I'd strongly emphasize that folks do not download anything posted such as "new wallet here" responses as they could very well be wallet stealers/trojans/etc. If this can somehow be resolved, we'll get it resolved.

Best regards,

syntaks

Quote from: MaGNeT on April 26, 2015, 04:25:17 PM

I put all the files for BitcoinT on a file-dump location:

Github source: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_mirror/bitcoint-master.zip
Windows client: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_win_client/bitcoint-qt.zip
BlockChain to fix stuck at block #1690 problem: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_roaming/BitcoinT.zip

Graphics from OP: http://picadump.com/BitcoinT_graphics/graphics.zip

Use at own risk.

this maybe help..

if you want to take over BitcoinT,, community maybe help with this.

Thanks.

adaseb

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Quote from: DrMikefromHashtag on April 26, 2015, 09:41:51 PM

If you lost BTC on BitcoinT, PM me.

I will try to get you in our next coin in about 2-3 weeks EARLY, so you can get some of your $$ BACK. No charge or tip required. (The timing depends on the Dev)... It will be solid play and not a Pump and Dump. We have great relationships and do our research. It will shake the market.

If you were a Fudder on this thread or Have a Newbie account, do not bother.

This SCAM crap has to stop. Be sure to do your Research before you BUY!

People may hate on my team, because we are successful. We just do your research.

At the end of the day, these fudders do not care about the community. Surely, they will not make you any $$.

GLTY,

Dr Mike

PM me
or
Follow me on Twitter:
Doctor Mike
@DrMikesCoinTeam

"My team is buying the next 10x coin in May, Now!"

Why so they can end up losing more money by buying another coin that was just pumped?

DrMikefromHashtag

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If you lost BTC on BitcoinT, PM me.

I will try to get you in our next coin in about 2-3 weeks EARLY, so you can get some of your $$ BACK. No charge or tip required. (The timing depends on the Dev)... It will be solid play and not a Pump and Dump. We have great relationships and do our research. It will shake the market.

If you were a Fudder on this thread or Have a Newbie account, do not bother.

This SCAM crap has to stop. Be sure to do your Research before you BUY!

People may hate on my team, because we are successful. We just do your research.

At the end of the day, these fudders do not care about the community. Surely, they will not make you any $$.

GLTY,

Dr Mike

PM me
or
Follow me on Twitter:
Doctor Mike
@DrMikesCoinTeam

"My team is buying the next 10x coin in May, Now!"

CryptoClub

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Quote from: twoturtles on April 26, 2015, 09:15:16 PM

Hi folks,

I'm trying to get a copy of the original source so I can review it. I see that the repo has been removed. Out of some sheer curiosity I also Googled the first two team members. I can't seem to turn up anything on them - almost as if they're fabricated characters. I could be wrong, but I went through some translated pages to try to find any related development work with the names involved. Regardless, at this point it seems that there are quite a few people with a vested interest here and I hate to see people get scammed albeit a small or large amount. If someone could turn up a copy of the source we can see what options there are towards some sort of balanced resolution if any.

During this vulnerable/sensitive time, I'd strongly emphasize that folks do not download anything posted such as "new wallet here" responses as they could very well be wallet stealers/trojans/etc. If this can somehow be resolved, we'll get it resolved.

Best regards,

syntaks

+1

CryptoClub

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Quote from: jasonhopper2412 on April 26, 2015, 09:04:04 PM

I agree with CryptoClub. Bittrex should be held responsible for this and should rei!burse everyone for BT held. They are the ones that listed such an obvious scam. Come of 'rex, those fake dev id's were rather laughable. I'm not even a holder but still personally feel this is a bullsgit situation.

I saw Bitcoin Architect tweet two hours after I did, and I admit I was blinded by greed, easy 10x with real team. I thought maybe he knew the dev team or something, a wrong guess it seems. In hindsight, and later by their behavior, everything is obvious of course. Many people were tricked though, including all the exchanges.

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