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Topic: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | BlackHalo | Smart Contracts | Anonymous - page 65. (Read 609585 times)

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guys, could somebody tell me something about BC used instead of LTC as favorite alt?
What does it mean?

thanks

I'm assuming you are looking for advantages to using BC as opposed to LTC?  Especially as a base pair in exchange trades?  (At least that's how I'm translating your question... hopefully it's close).

There are numerous advantages over LTC, but definitely the speed of transactions and the security this provides are paramount to improving exchange trades.  It would be far better than BTC for this as well - as traders like myself have to leave appreciable balances of BTC on exchanges in order to have it available when an opportunity presents itself.  In many cases a big dump occurs and you have 2-3 minutes maximum in order to fill buys before the price corrects.

With BTC you might have to wait over an hour before it's available to you... and by that time the opportunity is long gone.  So we have to leave the BTC there... just in case.  With LTC this is better, but still not what I would call 'fast' - definitely not fast enough to keep it offline until needed.

With BC, most of the time when I make a transfer from my wallet to the exchanges... it's pending within seconds and confirmed within a minute or two at the most.  So it's at least theoretically possible to keep balances offline (or at least off-exchange) and simply transfer in the amount you wish to trade with just-in-time. Smiley

Also there is less dilution of value as the PoW phase is ended, so holding a balance is not as much of an uncertain proposition as it is with LTC.  Not to mention that I personally consider BC to have much more than half the development and services infrastructure and support of LTC despite being around for less than 25% of the time.

There are many more advantages... but those are my 'biggies'. Wink

I don't believe there's a fee. Should it be the exchange to vet the code or the investor's problem? What if an exchange chooses not to accept a coin because he has personal issues with a developer? Possibly another solution is a "Warning - This coin was found... but trade at own risk."

Lot of tough questions on how this should be handled.

Yes, there is a fee... OK, it's not billed as such, but they host "Sponsored Coins" all the time (i.e. pay-to-list).  About the only thing worse (IMO only of course) is voting for coins. 


I thought Sponsored Coins were already listed. Isn't that just paying for more exposure?


Well, it's hard to be sure as there aren't any concrete rules anywhere discussing this.  The closest thing to a statement from them on the topic would be:
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9. Currencies
Currencies are listed at the discretion of Bittrex and can be removed at any time. If a currency is removed, you will have 14 days to withdrawal your funds if the blockchain allows for it. In no event shall we be liable for any loss, liability or cost whatsoever arising from any authorized or unauthorized transaction.

10. Markets
Markets are opened and closed at the discretion of Bittrex. If a market is closed, all funds on all open orders are credited back to your account balances. In no event shall we be liable for any loss, liability or cost whatsoever arising from trades executed on any market. All executed trades on any market are final. There will be no refunds or cancelling of trades once they have been executed.

So in other words, perhaps they simply add every coin that contacts them at all... but allow certain coins to get top billing for a fee (which is undisclosed as near as I can find).  Or perhaps they can be 'convinced' behind-the-scenes for some BTC to add just about anything.  I'm not saying this is the case - I'm just saying that transparency isn't really the strong suit over there... and neither is exclusivity (although Mintpal isn't good on that front either).  Just my take on things... doesn't mean I don't think it won't be a good thing for BC - but it's definitely not going to be a significant value-add for the coin IMO.
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I don't believe there's a fee. Should it be the exchange to vet the code or the investor's problem? What if an exchange chooses not to accept a coin because he has personal issues with a developer? Possibly another solution is a "Warning - This coin was found... but trade at own risk."

Lot of tough questions on how this should be handled.

Yes, there is a fee... OK, it's not billed as such, but they host "Sponsored Coins" all the time (i.e. pay-to-list).  About the only thing worse (IMO only of course) is voting for coins.  


I thought Sponsored Coins were already listed. Isn't that just paying for more exposure?
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guys, could somebody tell me something about BC used instead of LTC as favorite alt?
What does it mean?

thanks
sr. member
Activity: 392
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I don't believe there's a fee. Should it be the exchange to vet the code or the investor's problem? What if an exchange chooses not to accept a coin because he has personal issues with a developer? Possibly another solution is a "Warning - This coin was found... but trade at own risk."

Lot of tough questions on how this should be handled.

Yes, there is a fee... OK, it's not billed as such, but they host "Sponsored Coins" all the time (i.e. pay-to-list).  About the only thing worse (IMO only of course) is voting for coins.  

Don't get me wrong on this, I'm a huge supporter of decentralized initiatives (or else I wouldn't be here) but to be totally honest most people are way too stupid for a democratic selection process to work for anything.  Crypto coins are no exception to this at all.  Everyone bitches when coin X isn't listed on the exchange, then when it turns out to be a scam they bitch that the exchange didn't 'protect' them from the scammer.  

If an exchange chooses not to accept a coin because of personal issues... no problem at all!  That's a free-market.  People that support that coin/dev will likely no longer trade there if they feel strongly enough.  If the coin is a success, then that exchange might even fail because of the bad publicity... on the other hand, if the coin turns out to be a scam, that exchange operator is likely to see business triple overnight... because they actually cared more about people losing money than grabbing a fast BTC and helping the fraud continue. Smiley


Also, in another possible upset... now that Moolah has acquired Mintpal... it's likely that the exchange will be run a little less 'fast and loose' in the future (at least based on Moolah's current operating proceedure) and thus may become a much better platform.  This leads to some potential conflict with BC (key word being 'potential' as I don't see any real conflict actually) as they are one of the fiat bridges which allowed for the Coinkite implementation - thus deserving of support as well.
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When BC will be available on Bittrex?

It is there right now... but if by available you mean "as a base-pair..." that's anyone's guess as far as I know.  Neither Richie nor anyone on this side has set anything in stone (publicly at least).

I agree with you on this one aspect 7000years... and I've posted about this on both boards and IRC... goes over like a lead balloon each time - so figure everyone really wants this and sees it as only positive.  I guess we'll see what happens when/if it actually does.

Poloniex never added Supercoin after coming out to say it was a scam. As far as I know, nothing was ever found to be a scam.
sr. member
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When BC will be available on Bittrex?

It is there right now... but if by available you mean "as a base-pair..." that's anyone's guess as far as I know.  Neither Richie nor anyone on this side has set anything in stone (publicly at least).

I agree with you on this one aspect 7000years... and I've posted about this on both boards and IRC... goes over like a lead balloon each time - so figure everyone really wants this and sees it as only positive.  I guess we'll see what happens when/if it actually does.
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With so many proven scamcoins lately on bittrex, I'm not really sure if being in talks with them is good advertisement or not. Seriously. Every coin scammer has found a home there. Also, I've heard they list coins for a fee. Is it true?


Bittrex is doing a great job. Don't know if they list coins for a fee, anyway this is a free market and that doesn't mean anything.  [...]

I'm not saying the fee is not legit. I'm thinking it could loosen their quality checks.


I don't believe there's a fee. Should it be the exchange to vet the code or the investor's problem? What if an exchange chooses not to accept a coin because he has personal issues with a developer? Possibly another solution is a "Warning - This coin was found... but trade at own risk."

Another solution - What they could do is use BitHalo smart contract system and release the fee after a month. Isn't a significant fee a quality check in itself.

Lot of tough questions on how this should be handled.

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When BC will be available on Bittrex?
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With so many proven scamcoins lately on bittrex, I'm not really sure if being in talks with them is good advertisement or not.

first time i've ever agreed with you
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With so many proven scamcoins lately on bittrex, I'm not really sure if being in talks with them is good advertisement or not. Seriously. Every coin scammer has found a home there. Also, I've heard they list coins for a fee. Is it true?


Bittrex is doing a great job. Don't know if they list coins for a fee, anyway this is a free market and that doesn't mean anything.  Answering also your last post, I have to say that Blackcoin  community support, development and work is a fact. There has not been any shady episode about Blackcoin except for that motherfucking IE, king of liars and manipulators.
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Blackoin is on the move. I hope now crypto community will give us credibility we deserve.
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Gritt pointed GREAT news  - we have blog on big China crypto news ( like Coindesk )
http://www.yibite.com/blog-23952-519.html

There were maybe only BTC LTC Doge PPC... - i think this is HUGE and have big Image impact in China.
+big interest around Halo in China they have deferent mentality than EU.
Worth to mention here.
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What's so funny ?
It was pretty clear btcchina wasn't adding us, they started accepting deposits in USD & HKD, so the pairs were clearly those...
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Yeah! I hate ShroomsKit!
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BTC China @btcchina  ·  1小时
Introducing Mobile Exchange 2.0 - Live candlestick charts, supports 3 trading pairs & 10 languages. http://[Suspicious link removed]/i/6mJnH  #btcchina

lol  lol
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Well I placed another 10BTC in now. Get ready!
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Wow this is exciting cant wait to hear the news bc going to explode Grin Kiss
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I prefer http://www.dailyblackcoin.com/ . gr8 job , and page looks very nice

wondering if that 2 big sell walls are so whale can acumulate or for real  Grin

Although there are exceptions... in general if it's a BIG wall on either side it's likely to be an attempt to push the other side into their real orders - so likely, yes they are probably an accumulation trade.  However, it's always possible that it's merely someone who either doesn't understand the market itself or simply doesn't care about fractional profits.

For example, many of my BC were purchased at around 500 sats... so whether sold at 16.5K or 17K they would still represent a massive profit.  However, since I believe they will be worth at least 500K sats eventually, it's equally valid to say that (whether or not I managed to get the very best price today for them...) it would still be a significant loss from what it could have been. Wink

Right there with you, *except* I expect BC to be worth around double your 500k sats prediction in the long term.
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