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Hopefully Great success with great project.
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Posted by Turtle Admin on May 14, 2018 in Weekly Update

Summary:
Branding, some changes have occured for the brand ‘BlackTurtle’. More Nodes are still required, our 1st milestone target is 20 nodes, pls could the community assist & spread the message further. BTC Gateway was added & making good progress with improving Gateway frameworks, an experimental piece of library turned out to make every gateway a lot more stable. Also note the Pywaves URL updates and improvements – thx @G1zm0nl.

Branding Changes;
Brand: Aligned the overall brand to ‘BlackTurtle’
Mr Turtle: Bram’s Telegram profile name changed to ‘Mr Turtle’
BlackTurtleNode: Node for Waves network, name changed from turtlenode.
New website: New Url & website – www.blackturtle.eu (WIP)
Council: Changed to ‘BlackTurtle Advisors’
Telegram: Url updated to https://t.me/blackturtle
Facebook: Url updated to https://www.facebook.com/BlackTurtle.eu
Reddit: New page setup https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackTurtle
YouTube: Channel name changed to ‘BlackTurtle’

Actions;
Nodes: 17 Turtle Network nodes online – (6% Inc) in-progress
Gateway: BTC to Turtle Network Gateway – done
Gateway: Wagerr to Turtle Network Gateway – in-progress
Gateway: Dash to Turtle Network Gateway – in-progress
Coinlib listing – https://coinlib.io/coin/TN/TurtleNode – done
New Website: New website & url – in-progress
TurtleNodeBot: Started updating to add inline links inside tx messages – in-progress
-Testing new block read algorithm for the bot and it’s tx to be independant from waves on Turtle Network.
-Added basic Turtle Network support. “/add turtlenetworkaddrhere”
Faucet: First faucet available for Turtle Network build by Mr Turtle for Hellenic Node: https://www.hellenicnode.eu/turtle-network-faucet – done
newbie
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Their new roadmap is promising and enticing. They have enough blockchain tech. to launch a Tesla into space.

Technical roadmap: http://www.blackturtle.eu/roadmap/

However they don't have not published a marketing roadmap. This is/was indeed one of the major shortcomings with the Waves platform.

Networks can be expected to grow and valued at n*log n, where n is the number of active people in it.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/networks/metcalfes-law-is-wrong

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It is essential that they value their enterprises correctly—neither overvaluing the business of providing content nor overvaluing, as Metcalfe’s Law does, the business of providing connectivity. Their futures are filled with risks and opportunities. We believe if they value the growth in their networks as n log( n ), they will be better equipped to navigate the choppy waters that lie ahead.

One of the reasons for FB's success is that 1 in 5 student at university knew about it and it was hence more likely that everyone in university knew about it. Strong nodes involve small focus group that are easier to reach a critical mass. A connection of strong nodes builds a thriving network.
newbie
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any airdrop or giveaway sir?
im so interest in this project

They seem to have some faucets on the turtlenetwork. check it out on their twitter
https://twitter.com/Hellenic_Node

I also understand that if you buy their main coin TurtleNode ($TN), you will get rewards every week if you lease it to their 'mining' nodes. Some lease nodes like the one in link also gives welcome rewards.

Someone on their telegram chat will be able to help you further.
https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@blackturtle

Tip: Try not ask free coins. Instead ask how to EARN some coins.
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any airdrop or giveaway sir?
im so interest in this project

At this moment there are no airdrops planned.
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any airdrop or giveaway sir?
im so interest in this project
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## Turtle Network - Weekly Update - 07/05/2018 ##
Summary; More Nodes are still required, our 1st milestone target is 20 nodes. The team are also working hard in the backend, the information will be forthcoming once milestones are completed, so keep supporting & glad to have you on the journey with us.


Actions;
Nodes: 16 Turtle Network nodes online - (6% Inc) in-progress
Gateway: Waves to Turtle Network Gateway - done
Gateway: BTC to Turtle Network Gateway - in-testing

TurtleNodeBot: Track Turtle Network addresses

Web Links;
Explorer: https://explorer.blackturtle.eu
TN Gateway: https://gateway.blackturtle.eu
LTC Gateway: https://litecoingw.blackturtle.eu
Waves Gateway: https://wavesgateway.blackturtle.eu
Wallet: https://turtlenetwork.blackturtle.eu
Github: https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Litecoin-Gateway:-How-to-swap-$LTC-to-Turtle-Network-$tLTC
Github: https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/TurtleNode-Gateway:-How-to-swap-$TN-from-Waves-Platform-to-TurtleNetwork
Github: https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Setting-up-a-$TN-node

## End ##
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1. fork waves github, explorer, node checker
2. replace all /waves/ with /turtlenode/
3. replace colour from blue to green
4. ...
5. profit!

nice scam!

This may be you're first impression but it isn't a scam, yes it's an fork from waves and the wallet needs improvements to gain his own identity, but this isn't a scam.

You are allowed to fork open-sourced code. That is fine. The software license allows you to.
So is changing color or making profit. That doesnot make it a scam.

Another question is will they copy Waves new smart-contract or make their own? Once you fork, you are expected to go in your own direction and make things the original didn't do.

There are two parts to it
1. Ideology
2. Source code

It is easy to have a new ideology but needs to be backed with significant  original source code contributions to justify  a fork. Granted the fork is only a few weeks old and takes a bit of time. Curious, how does Turtle Network address this? What original source code projects are in the pipeline?

Thanks for asking the questions,

At this moment the Turtlenetwork is the same as the wavesplatform, i don't deny that.
Possible the smart contracts function will be copied also when tested and released.

I write this from my own perspective (i am "just" an investor and not the developer), at this moment the Turtlenetwork must first build the stones to build upon, creating a fundament to build on is important at this moment, behind the scenes there is a lot of progress how to develop the Turtlenetwork in it's own unique way.
This project is a few weeks old and needs time to prove itself and be a functional product for usage.
When new things are developed turtlenetwork will be so transparent as possible. That is all what i can say at this moment, hope i can answer this question better in the future.
 
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You are allowed to fork open-sourced code. That is fine. The software license allows you to.
So is changing color or making profit. That doesnot make it a scam.
Another question is will they copy Waves new smart-contract or make their own? Once you fork, you are expected to go in your own direction and make things the original didn't do.
There are two parts to it
1. Ideology
2. Source code
It is easy to have a new ideology but needs to be backed with significant  original source code contributions to justify  a fork. Granted the fork is only a few weeks old and takes a bit of time. Curious, how does Turtle Network address this? What original source code projects are in the pipeline?

You are allowed to fork OpenSource code. That is fine and the license says so but when there's just Copy-Paste I smell scam.
Do you want to bet they will Copy/Paste smart contract too?
This fork is one hundred percent Copy/Paste work, and you will have a confirm as soon as smart contracts arrive on MainNet.
Useless fork.



my2c



It is common in the Linux world for linux distributions to merge back updated kernel code as its development progresses. However, they(distributions) make sufficient code contributions which attracts different groups of customers.

The speed at which Turtle-Network is progressing is still interesting. Considering it only costs a fraction of Waves and if it fixes some of the issues surrounding Waves gateways, it should attract more projects. This is what investors will be looking for. Will be watching this project to see if it has any merit.
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You are allowed to fork open-sourced code. That is fine. The software license allows you to.
So is changing color or making profit. That doesnot make it a scam.
Another question is will they copy Waves new smart-contract or make their own? Once you fork, you are expected to go in your own direction and make things the original didn't do.
There are two parts to it
1. Ideology
2. Source code
It is easy to have a new ideology but needs to be backed with significant  original source code contributions to justify  a fork. Granted the fork is only a few weeks old and takes a bit of time. Curious, how does Turtle Network address this? What original source code projects are in the pipeline?

You are allowed to fork OpenSource code. That is fine and the license says so but when there's just Copy-Paste I smell scam.
Do you want to bet they will Copy/Paste smart contract too?
This fork is one hundred percent Copy/Paste work, and you will have a confirm as soon as smart contracts arrive on MainNet.
Useless fork.



my2c
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New weekly update from Blackturtle.
Copied/pasted from telegram

waves blackturtle eu:
## Turtle Network - Weekly Update - 30/4/2018 ##
Summary;
Achieving network stability with more nodes is going well, 150% increase in nodes from last week but more nodes are required (lets try get to 20 in the next week). Some great development on Gateways and Pywaves, which is fantastic progress in a short amount of time, well done to all.

Actions;
Nodes: 15 Turtle Network nodes online - in-progress
Gateway: LTC to Turtle Network Gateway - done
Gateway: Waves to Turtle Network Gateway - in-testing
Gateway: BTC to Turtle Network Gateway - in-testing
Pywaves: Many thanks to @G1zm0nl http://dev.pywaves.org/TN - online

Web Links;
Explorer: https://explorer.blackturtle.eu
TN Gateway: https://gateway.blackturtle.eu/static/#/address-factory
LTC Gateway: https://litecoingw.blackturtle.eu/static/index.html#/address-factory
Wallet: https://turtlenetwork.blackturtle.eu
Github:(New) https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Litecoin-Gateway:-How-to-swap-$LTC-to-Turtle-Network-$tLTC
Github:(Updated) https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/TurtleNode-Gateway:-How-to-swap-$TN-from-Waves-Platform-to-TurtleNetwork
Github:(Updated) https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Setting-up-a-$TN-node

## End ##
newbie
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1. fork waves github, explorer, node checker
2. replace all /waves/ with /turtlenode/
3. replace colour from blue to green
4. ...
5. profit!

nice scam!

This may be you're first impression but it isn't a scam, yes it's an fork from waves and the wallet needs improvements to gain his own identity, but this isn't a scam.

You are allowed to fork open-sourced code. That is fine. The software license allows you to.
So is changing color or making profit. That doesnot make it a scam.

Another question is will they copy Waves new smart-contract or make their own? Once you fork, you are expected to go in your own direction and make things the original didn't do.

There are two parts to it
1. Ideology
2. Source code

It is easy to have a new ideology but needs to be backed with significant  original source code contributions to justify  a fork. Granted the fork is only a few weeks old and takes a bit of time. Curious, how does Turtle Network address this? What original source code projects are in the pipeline?
legendary
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1. fork waves github, explorer, node checker
2. replace all /waves/ with /turtlenode/
3. replace colour from blue to green
4. ...
5. profit!

nice scam!

This may be you're first impression but it isn't a scam, yes it's an fork from waves and the wallet needs improvements to gain his own identity, but this isn't a scam.
newbie
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1. fork waves github, explorer, node checker
2. replace all /waves/ with /turtlenode/
3. replace colour from blue to green
4. ...
5. profit!

nice scam!
legendary
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hello,


I really don't mind them putting it in cold storage but they need to do it correctly.

Turtle network<=>gateway<=>WavesPlatform
(100 million TN)<=>gateway<=(100 million TN)

The data from the earlier posts show there are
over 20 million TN on TurtleNetwork side while only a bit over 18 million TN was send to TurtleNetwork from WavesPlatform through the gateway.

It is fine to put something in cold storage but the issue here is the gateway has become non-auditable and non-transparent. Every coin should be backed at a 1:1 ratio. As of now, only if the correct number of TN in 'cold storage' on the WavesPlatform side is moved to the TurtleNetwork side, this ratio will hold. There is no harm in holding these coins in 'cold storage' on the TurtleNetwork side. I would like to see the gateway numbers add up.

Can the gateway owner of the turtle network be asked to comment?

The easiest way to get in touch with the gateway owner of the Turtle Network is in Telegram.
Your free to ask questions to blackturtle.

https://t.me/blackturtlenode
 
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hello,


I really don't mind them putting it in cold storage but they need to do it correctly.

Turtle network<=>gateway<=>WavesPlatform
(100 million TN)<=>gateway<=(100 million TN)

The data from the earlier posts show there are
over 20 million TN on TurtleNetwork side while only a bit over 18 million TN was send to TurtleNetwork from WavesPlatform through the gateway.

It is fine to put something in cold storage but the issue here is the gateway has become non-auditable and non-transparent. Every coin should be backed at a 1:1 ratio. As of now, only if the correct number of TN in 'cold storage' on the WavesPlatform side is moved to the TurtleNetwork side, this ratio will hold. There is no harm in holding these coins in 'cold storage' on the TurtleNetwork side. I would like to see the gateway numbers add up.

Can the gateway owner of the turtle network be asked to comment?
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Turtlenode coin amount discrepancy.

On  turtlenode explorer under nodes section


node   version   current height   base target   UTxs   address   effective   maintainer
https://privatenode.blackturtle.eu
TN v0.10.8   14691   53   0   3JhF7aMPXBYtJ84iwX5e3N9W5JmZRSgHPy9   10003836.32294048   https://t.me/blackturtlenode
https://privatenode2.blackturtle.eu
TN v0.10.7-4-gaaa52a7   14691   53   0   3JqAYiRnuiJxdMVmdTUsxuTV39LXHR5JWXk   10166709.288   https://t.me/blackturtlenode


That is a bit over 10 + 10 = 20 million TN effective

dev pywaves website under assets section, shows for the Waves gateway address
3PJ33ZasLyhLaFuK4gHGTFSQbpFBP5Entor                          18836456.45

i.e a little over 18 million TN moved from Waves platform to turtle network.

How were you able to have 20+ million effective TN, on the TN network if only 18+ million TN was moved through the gateway?



It has to do with cold and hot storage.
Since both networks exactly contain 100m TN.
So depending on how much is placed in the cold and hot storage this changes.

newbie
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Turtlenode coin amount discrepancy.

On  turtlenode explorer under nodes section


node   version   current height   base target   UTxs   address   effective   maintainer
https://privatenode.blackturtle.eu
TN v0.10.8   14691   53   0   3JhF7aMPXBYtJ84iwX5e3N9W5JmZRSgHPy9   10003836.32294048   https://t.me/blackturtlenode
https://privatenode2.blackturtle.eu
TN v0.10.7-4-gaaa52a7   14691   53   0   3JqAYiRnuiJxdMVmdTUsxuTV39LXHR5JWXk   10166709.288   https://t.me/blackturtlenode


That is a bit over 10 + 10 = 20 million TN effective

dev pywaves website under assets section, shows for the Waves gateway address
3PJ33ZasLyhLaFuK4gHGTFSQbpFBP5Entor                          18836456.45

i.e a little over 18 million TN moved from Waves platform to turtle network.

How were you able to have 20+ million effective TN, on the TN network if only 18+ million TN was moved through the gateway?

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weekly update from TurtleNode Developer

waves blackturtle eu:
## Turtle Network - Weekly Update - 23/4/2018 ##

Summary;
Firstly thx to everyone for your support :-)
The Turtle Network is live. We do require more active nodes to secure the TNetwork currently, see easy github guide link below.

Actions;
Gateway: TurtleNode(TN) Waves to Turtle Network Gateway - done
Wallet: Turtle Network Wallet - needs a bit of finetuning. Core functions working
DEX: Turtle Network Decentralized Exchanged (DEX) - done
Nodes: 6 Turtle Network nodes online - in-progress
Gateway: BTC to Turtle Network Gateway - in-progress
Gateway: LTC to Turtle Network Gateway - in-progress
Dev: Discussions under-way for anther Dev - in-progress
Pywaves: updated to support waves forks, and also us.
Please keep in mine that our network char is 'L'


Web Links;
Explorer: https://explorer.blackturtle.eu
Gateway: https://gateway.blackturtle.eu
Wallet: https://turtlenetwork.blackturtle.eu
Github: https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Gateway-$WAVES-$TN:-How-to-swap-from-Waves-to-TurtleNetwork
Github: https://github.com/BlackTurtle123/TurtleNetwork/wiki/Setting-up-a-$TN-node
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