[ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - page 13.

AlephconZero

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Quote from: owlcatz on February 10, 2016, 09:02:37 AM

Quote from: AlephconZero on February 10, 2016, 08:17:44 AM

Quote from: owlcatz on February 09, 2016, 02:12:12 PM

Quote from: AlephconZero on February 09, 2016, 02:08:48 PM

Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...

Then do what you want!
Regards

Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!

In the event that a User’s account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (“Monthly Fee”). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.

Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?

I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?

That's a quote, not a link, but whatever.

I have 40 satoshi in my account almost 1 year now, so for all I care they can go right ahead and "Charge" me into a negative balance, it will never get paid by me. They don't have my ID or info, as I only loaned, not borrowed..

ANyhow, hey BTCJam Support , here is what I think of you and your bullshit TOS above, if true:

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ab/ab126fe58b860b0104554a5c539eb894d438ba31a2ac77eb64617914b4d38069.jpg

Grin

Completely agree!

owlcatz

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Quote from: AlephconZero on February 10, 2016, 08:17:44 AM

Quote from: owlcatz on February 09, 2016, 02:12:12 PM

Quote from: AlephconZero on February 09, 2016, 02:08:48 PM

Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...

Then do what you want!
Regards

Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!

In the event that a User’s account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (“Monthly Fee”). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.

Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?

I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?

That's a quote, not a link, but whatever.

I have 40 satoshi in my account almost 1 year now, so for all I care they can go right ahead and "Charge" me into a negative balance, it will never get paid by me. They don't have my ID or info, as I only loaned, not borrowed..

ANyhow, hey BTCJam Support , here is what I think of you and your bullshit TOS above, if true:

AlephconZero

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Quote from: owlcatz on February 09, 2016, 02:12:12 PM

Quote from: AlephconZero on February 09, 2016, 02:08:48 PM

Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...

Then do what you want!
Regards

Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!

In the event that a User’s account is inactive for over 365 days with a positive Bitcoin balance, the Company will charge an account maintenance fee of the Bitcoin equivalent of up to $5.00 USD per month (“Monthly Fee”). Inactive is defined as an account where: 1) a User is not invested in any loans on the Site; or 2) the User has invested in a defaulted loan in which an arbitration award has been issued; or 3) has not performed another transaction such as purchasing a note.

Moreover I have 0.0005 on btcJAM: how much will be the fee?
Also: 0.00000 BTC is a positive balance?

I've never invested nor requested a loan, but they have parked my account so I cannot do anything: am I inactive?

AlephconZero

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Quote from: BTCJamSupport on January 20, 2016, 01:54:35 PM

Quote from: FullaSugah on January 13, 2016, 10:23:26 PM

For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.

"Hello ,

My name is ******** **********.
I don’t know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document.” is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.

PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.

Hope you will answer this email.

Thank you,"

Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.

Send me a PM with your alias, I'll check it out.

Do not send anything. The site is too risky.

AlephconZero

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https://btcjam.com/terms-of-use
Rule 19

owlcatz

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Quote from: AlephconZero on February 09, 2016, 02:08:48 PM

Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...

Then do what you want!
Regards

Can you post a link to wherever you are being told about being charged anything in their TOS, so that I can yell at them in another email again for being fucking scammers? Thanks!

AlephconZero

newbie

Activity: 26

Merit: 0

Do not subscribe to btcjam. If you remain inactive for a 365 days laps of time they will charge you up to 5$ depending on the btc you have on your account. Moreover lots of loans are scam and you will loose all your investment.
Moreover when sibscribed yyou cannot unsubscribe paying up to 60$ / yearly ...

Then do what you want!
Regards

pallas

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Activity: 2716

Merit: 1094

Black Belt Developer

In all honesty, I can't recommend this service as an investment.
In about 6 months time, my profit is -4.7% (negative!).
A lot of people just don't pay their loans and there is no way to get the money back (unless you live in the loaner's coutry, possibly).
It looks like they pay until they get to rating A, then run away with the money.
I can't even read the comments, because they are insulting: "I can't pay back, I need to first sell my plane".
It'd be funny if it wasn't my money.

BTCJamSupport

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Support for the global P2P lending platform:BTCJam

Quote from: FullaSugah on January 13, 2016, 10:23:26 PM

For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.

"Hello ,

My name is ******** **********.
I don’t know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document.” is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.

PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.

Hope you will answer this email.

Thank you,"

Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.

Send me a PM with your alias, I'll check it out.

BTCJamSupport

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Support for the global P2P lending platform:BTCJam

Quote from: seiruscom on January 15, 2016, 10:05:23 PM

same exact problem as FullaSugah

keep getting id rejected, tried greencard and passport, id is clearly legible in picture still gets rejected:

New Status: Invalid - The data in the photo and the information submited are inconsistent.

Is there anyone here from support to explain?

Drop me an alias via PM and I'll check it out today! Thanks

BTCJamSupport

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Support for the global P2P lending platform:BTCJam

Quote from: pallas on January 20, 2016, 07:59:12 AM

Isn't this a funny graph?

It would be good if it was upside-down :-D

Not much to laugh, actually.

Hey there, is this your investments page? Can you PM me an alias so that I can look into this a bit more? Thanks, we'd love to see what is going on here!

AlexC

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Quote from: FullaSugah on January 19, 2016, 12:17:30 PM

Quote from: AlexC on January 19, 2016, 08:42:21 AM

you could give it go at btcpop

Thanks for the tip Alex, but I don't want to get a loan now.
I just want the option to be there just in case, and I want to be at BTCjam because there i have my investor account....
Those who are not legit and with intent to deceive investors get this chance and those who are legit and need this just in case, they don't get accepted. Ironically.

You can also create an account on btcpop for only investing, and in that case you do not need to register anything at all

pallas

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Black Belt Developer

Isn't this a funny graph?

It would be good if it was upside-down :-D

Not much to laugh, actually.

FullaSugah

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Quote from: AlexC on January 19, 2016, 08:42:21 AM

you could give it go at btcpop

Thanks for the tip Alex, but I don't want to get a loan now.
I just want the option to be there just in case, and I want to be at BTCjam because there i have my investor account....
Those who are not legit and with intent to deceive investors get this chance and those who are legit and need this just in case, they don't get accepted. Ironically.

AlexC

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Merit: 10

you could give it go at btcpop

FullaSugah

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This is what i received from support:

******* replied:
Hi ********,

Thanks for reaching out. I’m sorry you have found the process frustrating, I know it can be tricky. If your submissions are getting rejected it’s because they are still not meeting the standard necessary for verification. Please try to submit an entirely different photo for review. Thanks for your patience!

Best,

********.

This is a vague answer with lots of questions as well as "The information provided does not match the document”.
I shot picture with Mirrorless 21MP, RAW, and still........ no standards. These standards? https://cdn.btcjam.com/assets/form_icons/selfie-with-id-84f71c9bd638243e3ec03b976bfaaabb.jpg =))

Well done BTC, i think ill stay as an investor and forget about the possibility of borrow; maybe for the moment.

PS: And for those omniscients, I wish you all red Wink

. You make shadow on earth for nothing. Hope I was not too subtle... Kiss

owlcatz

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Quote from: seiruscom on January 15, 2016, 10:05:23 PM

same exact problem as FullaSugah

keep getting id rejected, tried greencard and passport, id is clearly legible in picture still gets rejected:

New Status: Invalid - The data in the photo and the information submited are inconsistent.

Is there anyone here from support to explain?

Well Hello!!! Yes, I can explain!! Due to your inconsistent info, you are not eligible to now scam the bitcoin community on behalf of btcjam. I suggest you try again at a later date.

Quote from: FullaSugah on January 13, 2016, 10:23:26 PM

For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.

"Hello ,

My name is ******** **********.
I don’t know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document.” is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.

PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.

Hope you will answer this email.

Thank you,"

Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.

No. Your request is denied. You are not allowed to get a loan to scam members, sorry! Sad

seiruscom

newbie

Activity: 1

Merit: 0

same exact problem as FullaSugah

keep getting id rejected, tried greencard and passport, id is clearly legible in picture still gets rejected:

New Status: Invalid - The data in the photo and the information submited are inconsistent.

Is there anyone here from support to explain?

FullaSugah

newbie

Activity: 6

Merit: 0

For the past week they keep rejecting my Identity Verification and Address Verification without any reason to do that. I keep upload the files 2 times a day and they keep rejecting.
I have send them this email and they didn't bother to answer.

"Hello ,

My name is ******** **********.
I don’t know why you keep reject my Identity Verification , this reason "The information provided does not match the document.” is insufficient in order to understand whats wrong with my id or your verification system.
I look at the document and is nothing wrong with my CNP ( Numeric Personal Code / SSN / National ID Number), the information provided its 100% matching the document and is 100% the CNP from my birth certificate.
I tried to verify both the National ID and Driving License and you give me the same reason for rejection.
Please double-check the information received and act in concordance.

PS: When i verified my investor account i used the same National ID and it was accepted.

Hope you will answer this email.

Thank you,"

Maybe they will answer on this forum, MAYBE.

Rmcdermott927

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Merit: 1140

So, has anyone applied for a loan on BTCJam, had their loan go into "under review" status and then have it deleted with zero communication from BTCJam regarding it? I emailed support 24 hours ago asking them what the issue was and they still have not gotten back to me. I have borrowed 10 btc with them in the past and have had zero issues.

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