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Topic: [ANN] BTCMiddleMan.com - Secure escrow for Bitcoin & Litecoin transactions (Read 357 times)
February 16, 2023, 05:49:11 PM
September 18, 2022, 04:49:34 AM
Who are you?
I'm the guy who called you out!any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious!
We are a revived brand and are looking to build trust in the bitcoin community. Whatever it takes, we want to be the best.One of the things it would take, would be to verify claims by signing a message. But I guess that's not possible because that transaction never happened. Nobody in their right mind trusts an unknown site with 28 Bitcoin.
This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email
That makes no sense. How would we access the original source code then?Quote
All your assumptions are incorrect. Our intentions are not to scam but to prevent scams and I believe this service will be very beneficial to the bitcoin community. If you don't agree with the service don't use it but don't come to my thread trying to be menace. Thank you.
I've been around long enough to know I can expect either one of two possible responses. A legit site would give a response that takes away concerns. And a scammer just attacks the person who called them out. I've been called many things, usually "Switzerland" or "AI". "Menace" is new. Nice try. September 18, 2022, 04:23:28 AM
Can you sign a message saying "Hi LoyceV, this is btcmiddleman.com proving we processed 28 Bitcoin"? Sign it from the address that held 28 Bitcoin a few days ago, and you'll get credibility instead of just an incredible story. If you don't want to post the address publicly, feel free to PM me and I'll confirm ownership of the address without posting the address.
2% fee on 28 Bitcoin is close to $13,000. I find that hard to believe.
2% fee on 28 Bitcoin is close to $13,000. I find that hard to believe.
Who are you? We won't provide details on another user's transaction.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/btcmiddleman.com
Maybe OP can explain how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar:
Maybe OP can explain how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar:
We are a revived brand and are looking to build trust in the bitcoin community. Whatever it takes, we want to be the best.
This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email
That makes no sense. How would we access the original source code then? All your assumptions are incorrect. Our intentions are not to scam but to prevent scams and I believe this service will be very beneficial to the bitcoin community. If you don't agree with the service don't use it but don't come to my thread trying to be menace. Thank you.
July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 AM
Maybe OP can explain[/b] how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar
It must be some secret magic spell that was triggered and activated with my Trustpilot question being asked in public 
Interesting thing that all people who allegedly made feedback have only one single review in Trustpilot, that is highly unusual for real people, but not so much for bots and fake accounts.
This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email
Interesting theory, and everything about this website looks suspicious.I can't wait to see new comments and explanations from OP, maybe he is going to proved proof for this deals with signing a message.
I have zero experience with blockchain analysis, but unless I am wrong, there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins. That one was sent on 8 July. That (obviously not fake) review (at all) doesn't mention the time when the transaction supposedly happened. I would like to see that signed message as well, or better yet an excuse why OP can't do it.
I would be happy to see transaction proof for 28 BTC minus fee, and for all other alleged transaction that popped up recently, but he is probably going to say that he can't provide proof for privacy reasons. July 22, 2022, 05:28:57 AM
there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins.
The 2% fee makes it even more obvious: the 28 Bitcoin should be split up into 0.56 Bitcoin fee and 27.44 Bitcoin for the "seller".I left OP neutral feedback referring to my previous post.
July 22, 2022, 05:17:23 AM
I have zero experience with blockchain analysis, but unless I am wrong, there was only one transaction that was carried out from 1-13 July 2022 involving an output of 28 bitcoins. That one was sent on 8 July. That (obviously not fake) review (at all) doesn't mention the time when the transaction supposedly happened. I would like to see that signed message as well, or better yet an excuse why OP can't do it.
July 22, 2022, 03:58:26 AM
I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.
We have private vendors that we work with who use our website for big transactions all the time.2% fee on 28 Bitcoin is close to $13,000. I find that hard to believe.
We encourage to use the platform for digital transactions and not physical
Don't lie:After funds are received the Seller sends the goods
although we can work these disputes as well
How?Alice says she shipped 10 kg of gold, Bob says he received 10 kg of lead. How can you possibly know who's lying?
Maybe OP can explain how he went from 1 review 9 days ago to 10 more reviews in 6 hours since you posted this link. @OP: any chance you bought those reviews? It's so obvious! I love how Emma and Robert use the same avatar:
This is interesting:
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This is what I think happened: The service didn't get any customers, and let their domain name expire. Someone found this topic, and saw an opportunity. He bought the domain name on May 10, 2022. I can't verify it, but I think the Bitcointalk account had an email address linking to that domain. On June 18, he reset the password via email:
Quote from: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=btcmiddleman.com
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6/18/2022 9:22:19 PM password reset via email
6/18/2022 9:23:19 PM woke up
6/18/2022 9:23:19 PM woke up
If I'm right, the Bitcointalk account and domain name both have a new owner. OP claims to have "private vendors" that do "big transactions all the time" to fake credibility. OP claims to be "most secure escrow", but buys fake reviews on Trust Pilot. I think this is an exit scam waiting to happen, and I do not trust this user and website. Be very careful!
July 22, 2022, 01:14:16 AM
That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Are you telling me we should believe that someone used your BTCMiddleMan website for transacting 28 Bitcoins last week, like it is written in one single TrustPilot review page by some anon guy Matt H.?Sorry but I find that hard to believe, it looks like a fake review to me, and I guess you can't prove this transaction even happened using your website.
I mean you can always make transaction to yourself, but I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.
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Did a 28 BTC transaction through BTCMiddleMan.com and had no issues! Thank you!
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/btcmiddleman.comWe have private vendors that we work with who use our website for big transactions all the time. We have the fastest and most secure escrow right now! You are not obligated to use the service if you do not trust it at the moment, we understand trust will need to be built in this community.
That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Is the product shipped to you?We encourage to use the platform for digital transactions and not physical although we can work these disputes as well
July 21, 2022, 10:34:04 AM
That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Are you telling me we should believe that someone used your BTCMiddleMan website for transacting 28 Bitcoins last week, like it is written in one single TrustPilot review page by some anon guy Matt H.?Sorry but I find that hard to believe, it looks like a fake review to me, and I guess you can't prove this transaction even happened using your website.
I mean you can always make transaction to yourself, but I doubt you have 28 BTC for that.
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Did a 28 BTC transaction through BTCMiddleMan.com and had no issues! Thank you!
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/btcmiddleman.com July 20, 2022, 05:25:47 PM
That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
Is the product shipped to you? July 20, 2022, 04:11:49 PM
Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?- Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
- If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
- Escrow verifies product.
- Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here
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How are disputes handled?
Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
This doesn't address any of the concerns. If the escrow doesn't verify the product, it's impossible to know who's honest.Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
That is why you make the deal on-site so we can validate that the product was received if a dispute is opened.
July 11, 2022, 02:14:19 AM
Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?- Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
- If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
- Escrow verifies product.
- Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here
Quote
How are disputes handled?
Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
This doesn't address any of the concerns. If the escrow doesn't verify the product, it's impossible to know who's honest. Once a dispute is opened, both parties will be able to message and upload evidence from their side of the story. The dispute will then be reviewed and resolved by the BTCMiddleMan.com Team. In most cases, we will either refund the Buyer or release funds to the Seller.
July 11, 2022, 12:43:41 AM
All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.
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is unbelievable, we are constantly saying, "don't trade without using escrow ..." and in that same forum there are reputable people who provide escrow services, and then a new member who has a new website and says this is offering escrow service.
He has not done any research to find out what kind of advantage he should have against the most trusted and reputable members. I wonder:
do these guys not understand the basics of marketing? Don't they know that in trade it is crucial to know your competitors? every day I am surprised by many things
The advantage we have is that we provide a secure and convenient service, you don't have to wait for a middle man to be online you can process a transaction at anytime 24/7 with our service. Not to mention its quick, easy and withdrawals are instant.
Not to be salty but you are a random and now you want to open escrow service?
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.
We are based in the US and Trust will be built throughout time. We have been around for years and never had any accusations against us, so far we have processed over 40+ transactions since our return and believe our fees are competitive.
The Most Secure Bitcoin and Litecoin Escrow service!
That's a strong claim! It would help your business if you can convince people that it's true.Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest?- Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
- If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
- Escrow verifies product.
- Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
How our disputes are handled can be found on our FAQ here
If a dispute is initiated, staff can see the terms & chat and resolve the dispute by either refunding the buyer or releasing the funds to the seller.
June 19, 2022, 03:29:46 PM
Not to be salty but you are a random and now you want to open escrow service?
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.
No information abotu who is behind the site to trust you.
June 19, 2022, 07:13:52 AM
From fees:
0.0001 Bitcoin:
Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
0.0001 Bitcoin:
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Total Fee: 0.000004000000000000001 BTC
Is that related to this PHP question?Not to be salty but below 0.01 transactions are way too high 3%? No thanks.! Also its much better to trust up old time reputable members
All of the escrows you've linked charge more for small transactions. There are of course trust issues, but even using the most trusted escrow on Bitcointalk doesn't guarantee you can't lose $50,000.The Most Secure Bitcoin and Litecoin Escrow service!
That's a strong claim! It would help your business if you can convince people that it's true.Again ignoring trust issues: How would you handle disputes?
This is what I would have expected:
If you only handle the financial side, how can you ever be sure who's honest? - Buyer and seller provide payment and shipping details to escrow.
- If all agree on all terms, buyer pays escrow and seller sends product to escrow.
- Escrow verifies product.
- Escrow releases product and payment only if everything is okay.
June 19, 2022, 05:25:30 AM
So you are back after 3 years. Has anyone on Bitcointalk ever used your services? There is no feedback to your name and the business is being done off-site. How would someone benefit from using your escrow services rather than getting in touch with a trusted forum member who has already completed numerous deals and takes a smaller cut? Judging by the OP, you haven't updated your fees.
June 18, 2022, 06:38:47 PM
The Most Secure Bitcoin and Litecoin Escrow service!
https://btcmiddleman.com
https://btcmiddleman.com
September 12, 2019, 08:51:29 PM
All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.
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Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
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Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
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is unbelievable, we are constantly saying, "don't trade without using escrow ..." and in that same forum there are reputable people who provide escrow services, and then a new member who has a new website and says this is offering escrow service.
He has not done any research to find out what kind of advantage he should have against the most trusted and reputable members. I wonder:
do these guys not understand the basics of marketing? Don't they know that in trade it is crucial to know your competitors? every day I am surprised by many things
September 12, 2019, 06:49:33 PM
- Secure - Escrow data encrypted with AES, a government standard encryption. We also offer a option to delete encrypted keys from our server after transaction completion, this makes it impossible to recover your escrow data.
How we can be sure that keys will be safely deleted and there is no other copy in your database? Must believe in your words?
Since we are talking about a service that requires a lot of trust, you should be more transparent saying:
- Who is the site owner?
- Where is the site owner located?
- Do you have a license?
- How many employees do you have?
- Where is your business located?
- Do you have a phone number?
- Who is the site owner?
- Where is the site owner located?
- Do you have a license?
- How many employees do you have?
- Where is your business located?
- Do you have a phone number?
All information about website owners is protected by WhoisGuard, we must believe in his words.
Code:
Domain name: btcmiddleman.com
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registry Domain ID: 2376846048_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Creation Date: 2019-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-04-05T02:02:06.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
September 12, 2019, 02:30:22 AM
Since we are talking about a service that requires a lot of trust, you should be more transparent saying:
- Who is the site owner?
- Where is the site owner located?
- Do you have a license?
- How many employees do you have?
- Where is your business located?
- Do you have a phone number?
- Who is the site owner?
- Where is the site owner located?
- Do you have a license?
- How many employees do you have?
- Where is your business located?
- Do you have a phone number?
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