Topic: [ANN] Calling all beta testers! (Read 6587 times)

The part in red was not posted by me it is 100% untrue as I have other domains that whoever posted it didn't know about >

 altcoinsavings.co.uk 
 altcoinsavings.com 
 altcoinsavings.org
 altcointalk.co.uk
 blockexplorer.co.uk
 handcraftedbyme.co.uk 
 privateforum.altcointalk.co.uk
 projectinfinite.co.uk
 zackclark.co.uk

so why would I go against all I have been saying all this time and say>

The project is legally his

I don't have the domains

I only have altcointalk.co.uk

firstly this whole thing could have been avoided if snaz ancerd my PMs in the first place

admed there is only one post that I never posted that was it why would I defend my self all this time then post that it is all legally his ?

I have already said I would still work with him but there has to be a contract on who owns what then this cant happen again

snaz you think you haven't seen anything for you money I have paid threeip and ahmed 1.5BTC each as that was my share and  I have nothing what so ever from it whoever it was the used my computer to post that is a complete idiot there is only 1 person that had my team viewer password and that was snaz so if it wasn't you who was it

exactly you fool! so end this shit and close the topic. why are you guys letting this continue on and on thats my point!

Funny thing hypocrisy isn't it, as you know, you are "spamming the boards too".. Yes you got nothing from me, your deal "was with zack and zack alone", been over this with you! These were YOUR words ahmed, man up and stand by them! Don't cry about it later on.


Ha, yeah sure ahmed, you have to learn that you can't just swap and change when you feel like it! Zack has taken the domains and anyway, the site was garbage compared to what I can do myself! Ahmed you did no work anyway, all I saw from you was a slightly altered wallet that I had to get compiled myself, and even then it didn't work properly... What a joke! lol

I have paid a $100 and seen absolutely nothing for my money, and I dfon't want anything either, it's long past that! I have moved on and begun making the site from fresh... You had the opportunity the finish the site but you told me no because you were working with zack! You told me your deal was with him and him alone! Then you got the cheek to ask for 1.5 BTC... For a slightly altered wallet that didn't work and wasn't even compiled, nice fantasy world you live in!

If zack had given you 1.5 BTC then you should be very happy about that!


You don't know what the word civilized means, your posts are in here too ahmed, you came out accusing me of all kinds of crap and then went on to say that YOU were going to steal my idea too!

I can see why you a zack are such good friends...

Now you lot get on with your lives for christ sake.

can you 2 grow the fuck up. take this shit to a pm and stop spamming the forum. Snaz your unco-operative and from speaking to threeip i see you sent him 1 btc as a "goodwill gesture" but not a penny to me. I myself can see here and so can everyone else.

Zack- dont expect anyone here to believe you. youre making some of the most rookie mistakes of all and if what youre saying is true and u didnt post everything thats said, then youre getting burned by them. The easiest solution to this should be both you and snaz pay up 1.5 BTC each of which youve paid youre share, the site is finished and everything goes 50/50 from there on and thats sorted by yourself. Or the only other solution is all matters on the topic ends from here onwards and everyone is here and free to do their own thing with no mention of this topic again

Now thats how civilized people will do it, if you guys really want to have it out and spam the place down them make a topic in the scam accusation boards or off topic and argue till your hearts content over there,

very clever using team viewer to post under my name don't try and do it again I have changed the password

were the hell did that post come from ? I did not post that !!

Edit I have contacted admin as I believe my account has been compromised as I never posted that can you please tell me were it is

One more qoute from our boy zack just to lay this all to rest and as he loves threatening me with "the law" lol


Don't worry, if he has deleted this one too I also have the page saved, so if anyone is really interested they can request a copy from me...

Now, this is the last I have to say on the matter...

To everyone else still interested in project infinite I am here to remind you that it is going forward and the website is back under construction from fresh. I am working very hard getting it ready for you guys, and when it is ready I shall let you all know.

In the meantime, stay safe out there folks.

I have to tell you this its not your website you have not paid the devs for it so until you have done so in full it is still there's

my hosing package is a dualcore 2gb ram 500gb hdd managed dedicated sever with unlimited bandwidth and basic ddos protection that's not bad for £36 a month

I have no use for any of the altcoin savings domains but I cannot send them for the first 30 days after buying them as I got them using a discount code so it was just easyr to but your share of them if you want them when the 30 days are up you can have them  

I have already said I sent the coins but the transaction was blocked by cryptsy as it was a suspicious transaction as it sent of whatever system they have in place

Here is a post from the infinitecoin ANN thread... He soon changed his tune didn't he! I accepted his offer in this thread too but he refused and then held my site at ransom!

I can't believe i still have to justify this BS... But hey, there you go...

Zack is most definitely someone I never want any contact with again... But by all means, if YOU want to listen to his lies then go right ahead, for me, I have heard enough.



EDIT: The first quote within that quote was the PM that I sent to zack... He then came and posted it here, he didn't reply back to me at all...

The second part is him offering to give me back my domain and all.. Then he went back on his work because he is a LIAR... Have we all got that now? ZACKCLARK lies, like a lot!

He told me he pays 36 pounds a month for web hosting too, lol... I just bought some zacky boy, I think you may be getting ripped off, or just more BS! lol

From this post I am assuming you are not going to pay ahmed the 1.5BTC and threeip the full 1.5BTC you owe him  that was the deal we had with them

If I have to pay them for the other half I will not be happy about it  


snaz you have not explained anything you have not even replied to me how was I suppose to sort anything out if you wont talk to me all you had to do was talk to me about it and it would have never ended like this

if you had bothered reading your PMs from me you would know why the first transaction of 40,000,000 IFC never went threw

( it never went threw as it was flagged as a suspicious withdrawal from cryptsy I contacted support and hopefully it all gets sorted and I can trade coins again )

when the first transaction of 40,000,000IFC finally arrives can you send it back as you would have received 80,000,000 IFC from me when I only owed you less than 40,000,000 IFC

snaz also please remember that you can only use names and ideas that are yours that includes the custom wallet that ahmed made I payed for fisheater compiled and I made work

Were have I lied ? I sent it when I said I did I have never denied sending the message you keep referring to but as you know the message was not ment to be taken that way and fisheater has conformed I have not stolen from


the only damage control I was doing was to save project infinite

Here is a nice one of zack trying to scam 25 BTC out of me... lol As if!

Here is one of the messages where I am asking for my money, this is after he has said that he has already paid it... I mean honestly do I have to constantly keep proving the same old thing?

Oh and on another note.. Why would he want the domain any way? Ponder on that for a while...

I'm sorry fella, I know you are trying to help but this guy is a bare faced liar... Oh yeah he paid me AFTER all the times he said he already had!!! lol

He's a joker on damage control...

Even more lies in this comment... "I would not answer any PM..." I sent HIM the PM and he brought it to this thread and posted it here with his reply... If you go back through the thread you will see it...

He then removed all his posts and tried to get me to do the same too...

If someone had told you constant lies would you still want to talk to that person? Even if you KNEW it meant only further lies... If you want to see if he is lying or not then check out my wallet address and see the time stamp of that transaction... Then go back through the thread and see when I first started asking for it...

I'm sorry but I HAVE explained to him, very clearly. I'm not willing to go over and over and over the same old stuff!

Ahmed and threeip had the chance to finish the project but they didn't want to... Ahmed told me that his deal was with zack and zack alone... Threeip got 1BTC of me as a good will gesture and I got nothing in return for it... Not even a thank you.

I am moving on from all this non sense and concentrating on project infinite.

snaz I gave you far to many chances to fix this


This is the uk law on slander as we are both residents of the uk this is the law >

Defamation - Elements of a Claim


Under Article 10(2) of the Convention, the protection of the reputation of others is a legitimate ground for restricting the right to freedom of expression. Libel and slander are legal claims that protect an individual’s reputation against defamation. An individual is defamed when a person publishes to a third party words or matter containing an untrue imputation against his or her reputation.

Libel and Slander

 If the publication is in a permanent form (for example in a book, magazine or film), then the defamation is libel. It is slander if the publication is in a transient form (speech). Signs, gestures, photographs, pictures, statues, cartoons etc. can also give rise to a claim for defamation, but the most obvious types of defamatory statements are written or spoken words.

 The principal practical difference between claims for libel and claims for slander is what a claimant must prove to succeed in his or her claim. In libel claims, the claimant does not have to prove that he or she has suffered loss or damage as a result of the publication. In contrast, in claims for slander, the claimant must prove actual damage. There are however several exceptions to the rule that actual damage must be proved in claims for slander.

 For example, if the spoken words accuse the claimant of committing a crime; of having a contagious disease; of being unfit for his or her office, business or profession; or if the communication is an attack of the credit of trades people; or an accusation of being unchaste or adulterous against a woman or girl. In these cases damage is presumed and need not be proved.

Meaning of Defamation

 There is no single comprehensive definition of what is defamatory. Various suggestions have been made before the courts, including any material which:

•Is to a person’s discredit.
•Tends to lower him or her in the estimation of others.
•Causes him or her to be shunned or avoided.
•Causes him or her to be exposed to hatred, ridicule or contempt.
For a statement to be defamatory the imputation must tend to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally. Even if the words damage a person in the eyes of a section of society or the community, they are not defamatory unless they amount to a disparagement of the reputation in the eyes of right-thinking people generally.

 A statement that amounts to an insult or is mere vulgar abuse is not defamatory. This is because the words do not convey a defamatory meaning to those who heard them (simple abuse is unlikely to cause real damage to a reputation). It is arguable that the defence of vulgar abuse is not available if the statement is a libel. The reason for this distinction is that it is more likely that written words will be taken seriously and understood to have a defamatory meaning.

 In contrast to most civil cases, juries usually hear defamation claims. Once the judge has decided that the words - or other material - could possibly have a meaning that is damaging to the claimant’s reputation, the jury’s role is twofold. First, it must determine what the words mean in their natural and ordinary sense. Second, the jury must decide whether that meaning is defamatory. When deciding what the words mean the intention and knowledge of the person who published the words are irrelevant.

 The law of defamation recognises two types of meanings. The first type of meaning is the natural and ordinary meaning of the words. This is not limited to the obvious and literal meaning, but includes any inference which the ordinary, reasonable reader would draw from the words. The second type of meaning is the innuendo meaning:

False Innuendo: An alternative meaning which the ordinary, reasonable person who can read between the lines would infer from the words is known as the ‘false innuendo’ meaning.

True Innuendo: True innuendo arises when words that appear to be innocent to some people appear as defamatory to others because they possess special knowledge or extra information (for example, reading about someone getting married wouldn’t seem damaging to their reputation - unless you knew that they were already married!).

 A claimant can ask that the court consider a statement’s false or true innuendo meaning.

Publication

The words complained of must have been published by the person sued to a third party. Publication includes any means of communication even if only to one other person. Due to the breadth of the term publication, many individuals with only a slight connection to the work can find themselves ensnared in defamation proceedings.

 However, the Defamation Act 1996 provides a defence to persons who are not authors, editors or commercial publishers of the statement if they took reasonable care in relation to its publication and they did not know and had no reason to believe that what they did caused or contributed to the publication of a defamatory statement. This is intended to cover printers, distributors, on-line service providers and live broadcasters.

 The High Court has held for the purposes of the Defamation Act 1996 that an Internet Service Provider (ISP) which transmits a posting from its news server to subscribers who want to use it, is not the publisher of the posting, although at common law it would be considered to be. However, the court held that because the ISP had not removed the offending material as soon as it was notified of its existence, it had not acted reasonably and the defence under the Defamation Act 1996 was not available.

Identification

A claimant must prove that the defamatory statement refers to him or her. In most cases this can be done without difficulty, as the claimant will be named. However, a claimant who has not been referred to by name must prove that the words complained of were understood by some readers as referring to him or her.

 The claimant can rely on the fact that he or she was referred to by a nickname or initials or that he or she was a member of a class or group of people included in the defamatory statement.

 The fact that a publisher did not intend to refer to the claimant is irrelevant to the question of whether or not that person has been defamed. A person whose name is the same or similar to that of a fictitious character can sue for defamation if the words complained of would be understood to refer to the claimant by reasonable people who knew him or her.

 Similarly, a member of a group or class of people can sue in relation to a defamatory allegation referring to the group as a whole, if the group is sufficiently small that the allegation would be understood to refer to him or her personally.

Snaz I believe you should listen to Zack. I am quoting this so you can see his post. It would be better for both of you to solve this problem privately and as humanly as possible. Even if you don't want to work with him anymore. I love the Idea you  and would like to take part in it.

snaz please can you at least talk to me about why you believe I have done something wrong I believe you have taken everything the wrong way
I had no intentions of screwing you over and ever after all this I believe this can all be sorted out so all you have to do is talk to me and I am sure that you will se that I have done nothing wrong

Can someone please quote this so snaz can see it as he has made it so he cant see my posts


Here is the proof I have paid snaz 40,000,000 IFC for his half on the 3 domains and that I have paid my 50% of the dev fees for altcoinsaveings.com  

I hope that ahmed and threeip do the work they were paid to do on the project as there payments were not due until the beta testing had started  

I am sorry for any damage I have caused to the project but nobody likes being accused of steeling and not even given the chance to prove there not guilty

There are 2 reasons why this is all public

1 snaz would not reply to any pm why he kicked me of the team

2 its better to have everything public as it stops people using it against you later on   


snaz here >

Status: 290 confirmations
Date: 03/08/2013 17:31
To: iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
Debit: -40000000.00 IFC
Net amount: -40000000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 7bd7078d6b0daf7870eeb42950e2eee965da55d5221399b489956f1f21e280b5

ahmed here>

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:41
To: 1Dd18fCRCFztoY1jGFPq7QTmpXSNS8AWck
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 13e25554de6d7379e9bc5d1a1c4f51734ad05d72babe5301aa0eea5fde09e276

threeip here >

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:50
To: 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 34e654498fda211b2eeb7b36d77de818399819d5899c6db78c73968090c920b3

A message to all...

As you can see this thread has been overrun, it's not a problem, the venue for project infinite has changed. If anyone would like details please contact me via PM. Currently I am just accepting people signed up to the beta test.

Thank you for your patience.