Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA - page 174. (Read 1266559 times)
August 20, 2014, 09:08:29 AM
I suggest people read the whole pastebin link. You will see this AHLS done a Fox News and distorted the truth by only half quoting in his message
August 20, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money... 
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
fuck off man, you're grabbing things out of contest, if u dont believe in cloak devs just sell your shit and leave in peace;
August 20, 2014, 08:58:56 AM
Fud field day
August 20, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
for Alty's defense, this is just grabbed out of contest, this is what happened:
275.[00:47]
276.[00:47] <+MrRGnome> SPEC FIRST
277.[00:47]
That's fucked up.
August 20, 2014, 08:49:20 AM
I don't like how things are getting treated.
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
Quote
[3:56:38 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: That's pretty irresponsible, saying we could launch something in a week
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
Why would "Alty" be posting as "The Alty"?
Why would "MRrGnome" be posting as "disgruntled gyroscope"?
I think this is just more FUD. Like this thread needs more FUD.
August 20, 2014, 08:44:26 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
for Alty's defense, this is just grabbed out of contest, this is what happened:
275.[00:47]
276.[00:47] <+MrRGnome> SPEC FIRST
277.[00:47]
August 20, 2014, 08:43:37 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
It was actually MrGnome/disgruntled gyroscope who said
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
They didnt get along and alty removed him.
August 20, 2014, 08:41:28 AM
CLOACK is pretty cool! 
August 20, 2014, 08:26:25 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
wheels are coming off now
August 20, 2014, 08:24:44 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
No good ;/ Cloak is mess now.
[00:47]
Nice Dev
Fuck inside trading !
August 20, 2014, 08:05:48 AM
I don't like how things are getting treated.
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
Quote
[3:56:38 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: That's pretty irresponsible, saying we could launch something in a week
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
wtf MRrGnome who is dev is also auditor? Talk about conflict of interest!!!
MrGnome is not on the dev team, he has been helping the audit
August 20, 2014, 08:02:23 AM
I don't like how things are getting treated.
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
Quote
[3:56:38 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: That's pretty irresponsible, saying we could launch something in a week
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
wtf MRrGnome who is dev is also auditor? Talk about conflict of interest!!!
August 20, 2014, 08:02:03 AM
Is this from today?
Yesterday
August 20, 2014, 07:37:47 AM
Is this from today?
August 20, 2014, 07:21:41 AM
I don't like how things are getting treated.
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
full bin: http://pastebin.com/yF5YzR36
Quote
[3:56:38 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: That's pretty irresponsible, saying we could launch something in a week
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
[3:56:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: Not really.
[3:57:00 PM] The Alty: I did say beta Gnome
[3:57:03 PM] The Alty: not launch
[3:57:28 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Alright
[3:57:36 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Well, you dow hat you're going to do.
[3:57:52 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I do not feel like this is a productive development environment.
[3:58:01 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Ideas are never thought to completion befor ejumping to implimentation
[3:58:05 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Shortcuts at every chance
[3:58:13 PM] Ciara Cloak: All you can identify in the transaction is "some" participant
[3:58:19 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: I disagree
[3:58:26 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: and when you show me the full spec maybe I can show you
[3:58:54 PM] Ciara Cloak: I don't know how you can sit there and talk about shortcuts at every chance, and then turn around with some rube goldberg contraption
[3:59:01 PM] The Alty: lol
[3:59:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: So because you can't wrap your head around a given development decision it's ribe goldberg esque?
[3:59:16 PM] Ciara Cloak: Adding needless complexity is no better than "shortcuts"
[3:59:29 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Identify needless complexity, we'll eliminate it
[3:59:45 PM] Ciara Cloak: God you are so arrogant
[3:59:51 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You have written down NOTHING.
[3:59:57 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: Spec or shut up
[4:00:15 PM] disgruntled gyroscope: You are the reason why we are here ciara tkae some damn responsibility
[4:00:16 PM] *** The Alty removed disgruntled gyroscope from this conversation. ***
disruntled gyroscope == MRrGnome == the auditor.
Plus devs are missing from the channel since yesterday and now the channel is set to invite-only mode. Maybe they are re-organizing the whole thing, but it would be nice to see some clarification.
EDIT #cloakcoin is joinable now
August 20, 2014, 07:10:43 AM
BOb want in control of cloak, play his P&D game, don't let him !
August 20, 2014, 07:05:48 AM
Hi guys, I can't connect to IRC.
What happened?
[14:04] == #CloakCoin Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
What happened?
[14:04] == #CloakCoin Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
August 20, 2014, 07:05:37 AM
August 20, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
Hi erok, did you hear Darkcoin solved the anonymous internets? It's anonymous and he added trustless on top of it!
Source? August 20, 2014, 06:45:14 AM
I have been a cloak supporter since PoW and the devs have been active here and the whole projekt sounded great. But now with this info I have sold of most of my cloak holdings: http://pastebin.com/3KzxJxFA MrRGnome made the audit. And "The development team has insisted in taking shortcuts at every turn. It's a mess" "I wasn't left with much choice but to whistle blow". I really hope the dev can come back, but I just cant risk my money...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
And now none of the devs is in the IRC to answer for this...
I read all of that and came to the conclusion that MrRGnome is a prima dona who, if he doesn't get his way, throws a temper tantrum. I use to manage (and fire) guys like that. I love the way he talks about doing his own coin though. Now he's started some "fud" that will end up helping his cause as all the sheep will flock to it. lol
Overall though, they all seem to be stressed out and infighting is common in that sort of environment. Professionals find a way to work through it all and come out with something stronger in the end. Nothing helps generate a great solution better than passionate "debate".
On the other hand. Nice fud that I'm sure will make some people a bunch of money off the subsequent dump/pump that will occur.
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