Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA - page 291. (Read 1266559 times)

just another small hurdle to clear .002 then sell book above that looks pretty thin!

You sir are a disgrace to this community and to yourself. Apparently no one else gives a damn about the advertising done for Bob's club and the members of this community who will likely buy into it.

TheDagger - Come and either delete all the posts (mine included) that mention this club or put a disclaimer up about it and prevent the members from being hoodwinked.

The Windows Wallet works like a charm. Good connection to the network and 9 connection to anons. I'm impressed.

edit: I had to install "openssl"-package and Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 or 2010 before...

Sorry about that. Some of the kids here have no real social skills. Don't let that reflect on your opinion on this coin. Most of them have no say in the development of this coin and probably don't even understand it. Feel free to PM me any questions you might have and I'll do my best to find you the information.

Spare it brother, I know how it works - I was scammed by just a 'club' back in Janurary when I was still a Crytpo newbie - only after the bloke took my money he had the decency to explain to me how it works so I wouldn't fall for it again. Hated him but it was a damn fine learning experience.

Remove your advertisements from this thread and I will remove my post. Otherwise all our posts stay and shall be judged by the members accordingly. I don't care if people buy into your club, it has happened and will no doubt continue to happen - I care about the poor fella is on the fence right now and still has a chance of keeping his money.


If you really wanted to help people make money you would not ask for 1 Bitcoin - you would simply get everyone together, collude and come to an understanding of what coin you were going to pump, when, to what point, who would sell first (based on contribution as proved by screenshots of order history or balance) and then you would calmly execute the plan. That has just as much chance of making folk money as your current club idea has - except this doesn't cost them anything and therefore doesn't make you anything.

That is my final word on the matter - let the members see your posts and mine and make a call on their own merits.

You missed this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8257810

Excuse me? I will speak my mind when and where I want. That message was primarily for the innocent members that will no doubt be thinking about 'buying in' to this club. You're a smart fella R2, you know what he's up to here. A lot of people will see his numerous advertisements posted in this thread and potentially be hooked into parting with their money.

I don't wish to have a private chat with anyone here. I want nothing other than for people to aware of the way this scam works.

It's one thing to make money off people buying too high and selling too low in a market situation - that's just business. It's another to actively scam individuals who probably don't have an overflowing stack of Bitcoin to be playing with.

This is no scam, what am I going to do with the so far 3 btc I have earned in membership fees. That's gonna have to be a super small buy support wall eh. Even if I rake in 20 btc... How would that help me with a pump? You know on two occasions I've called prior to purchasing cloak, once for 50 btc and once for 25 btc. The guys I work with are playing with hundreds and some even thousands of btc. I'm doing this as a way to make others money while making some extra coin on the side. And sure, if I ever get to 100 members and I'm taking in 100 btc a month you can be sure that 'll be using some of that btc for the monthly pick, its only natural.

Also, I should note, people get greedy, I;m sure even my member's will at some point. It may pay off or they may lose out. This is out of my control. I can set guidelines all day but if you dont follow them you deserve what you get, even if that means you lose out.

You also seem to forget the power of movement. Coins move and others who are not privy to the membership pick will also be hoping on board with no knowledge of what the set entry's and exits are. There are so many variables, if you want you're more then welcome to join the club and see for yourself how you'll make money with me.


Anyway, if the members play it smart they'll come out ahead every month!

P.s. Can we please stop talking about me now?

Thanks.

Admit what? I know how this game is played. You can either hate bob and be poor and follow bobs advice and make money. I'll leave saving the world to you guys.

Edit: You're right R2. I'll keep all the personal shit out of here and focus just on Cloak from now on. Sorry about that.

Dont feel like admitting it nemo

This 'club' is the oldest scam in the book - Let me explain how it works.

You all give 1 Bitcoin per month to Bob. He then pools all your Bitcoin together and uses half your money to firstly buy a nice stack of coins for himself in an alt market of his choosing. The other half of your money goes towards placing a big Buy wall just above where he purchased his last coins with your money.

At this stage he has very quietly placed all the coins he just bought with your money in little bundles up the sell order book. The last of his bundles is set at price 'Y'.  He then puts the word out to everyone "Guys, pump is on X - Target Y+10% GO!" - All of you will then introduce MORE money and buy up all the coins he has just purchased with your own bitcoin.

You will then be reliant on each other to buy up your coins as Bob has already made his money - All he has to do is remove his buywall and you are all fucked. Not only have you given him 1 Bitcoin but you have now bought a bunch of coins far higher than they would be going for 'but for' Bob's buy wall made up of your own bitcoin.

Now, Bob is smart, he won't just remove his buywall - but roughly a quarter of you will buy too late, you will think "Ah damn, only just got the message - well price is Y-10% and target is Y so I guess I can still make 5-10%!"

Problem! Everyone has already started selling you their coins as when the target is Y the majority of people will always start selling somewhere between Y-20% and Y-10% - depending on their 'greed levels'. Either way you just got burned.

Now he has conveniently placed the disclaimer 'If you follow my guidelines' in his post - It enables him to say "Oh gee man I'm sorry to hear that! But I did do what I said I would didn't I? You were just a bit slow! Better luck next month!" - Those who have fallen for this scam will probably just say "Meh you're right, thanks so much Bob!" and get back to thinking they are part of a special club.


If you cannot see this scam for what it is then I feel sorry for you, because even if you make a bit of money from this, Bob is risking your funds - not his - to both buy and pump up a coin. He doesn't have to risk a single Satoshi of his own stash for this scam to work - but you give him not just 1 Bitcoin as a 'joining fee' but MORE bitcoin in the form of buying his coins above the buy wall he puts up with the rest of your money. He get's ya twice.


Bob I respected you and your substantial portfolio - but this is pretty damn disappointing.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8256175 fuck you

Mangled Blue stop stirring the pot , . If you not sure about a coin then first of all you should do some research before investing money into it.
Second have you been skipping all the posts in this thread? There has been tons of clear information posted by the dev explaining most of the questions asked.
Third DEV's are always in IRC answering question since day 1, there is a cloak forum with over a thousands users. I wonder how could you missed all of that? The developers are always here 24/7.
Ill give you my opinion Cloak is heading to become the next biggest generation of altcoin.

The unknown dev is a team which you can find in my thread. As well as in the IRC the Developer is answering everyday, mostly every hour when he has time. For all people who only reading here please join us at IRC for a day and see the community discussing.

Cheers!

they respond in irc #cloakcoin

Yea, Mangled blue I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. The Devs here are extremely responsive. Check out IRC and well, the news from today.

Yogi, ask for support help in IRC. The guys there are extremely quick and helpful.

I downloaded the new PoSA Wallet and edited my cloakcoin.conf


At first the wallet connected very well, but I had only anon acconection and not network connections? Coins were not minting due to no network connections? Is that right?

I restarted the wallet and now it does not connect at all?

The linux binary cloakcoind is not available for systems with GLIBC_2.13. How to install 2.14 without haveing to change the whole system?

I'm saying you should put your big boy pants on, yes.