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Topic: [ANN] CLOUDMINR - page 146. (Read 223737 times)

legendary
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December 09, 2014, 04:28:05 PM
But here is still no proof.. this is just what you think.

It's up to the service operator to provide evidence of their legitimacy, not potential customers to prove the service is a scam. Any cloud mining service that refuses to provide any evidence of their legitimacy should simply be assumed to be a scam.
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 04:22:13 PM
Yeah, that´s what I said and I´m sure as hell not doing that anymore.
newbie
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December 09, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
if they paid then why complain?

i dont get it.. just consider that before anything else. also whats up with that google link provided..if you want referrals or people to your site do it properly.

First: Did they pay? Now how does a typical Ponzi work? The scammer takes a little bit money into his hands. Then he finds some persons, let's call them "Group A". He pays a bit of money to "Group A".  And some of this group now jump up and down in sheer excitement, yelling: "See, he's paying!" They get so excited, that they invest into the Ponzi. So the scammer has more money for paying a bit of money to "Group A", which still is shouting: "See, he's paying! All legit!" Now "Group A" is not only shouting, but also actively looking for more investors. Let's call them "Group B". "Group B" also invests. And so on.

Now you say: He's paying. What exactly is he paying? Some dust. Not more.  Let's assume he invested 2 Bitcoin for getting "followers".  If this "Group A" invested then 5 Bitcoin, he already made a profit of 4 Bitcoin. Now Group A promotes the Ponzi, and Group B invests, too. So he has now maybe 20 Bitcoin coming in and invests 2 in the form of some more dust. Group B, very excited, yells: "He's paying, so what could possibly be wrong?" Group C steps in, invests 30 Bitcoin, he invests 3 Bitcoin into Group C... and so on. That's what a Ponzi is.

Now I call him a scammer. Could he prove me wrong? Easily. Does he prove me wrong? No. Why not? Well, because he is a scammer.

In most European countries, people who should and could know that they are supporting a scammer also can be sentenced. So everybody who is promoting the scam - for example with his signature - and who is living in Europe runs the risk to be prosecuted one day. Because at the very beginning of this thread, I asked Cloudminr some questions. He didn't answer. Why? Well, as I said before: He is a scammer and he knows that he'll get away with his Ponzi. Because he understands how his "clients" work: More greed than brains.

So he pays. Can you tell me how much he paid and how much was invested into his scheme? Can you positively confirm that he isn't paying the withdrawals with Bitcoins which were invested into his scheme? Can you show me in the Blockchain payments coming from the mining?

People like him give a shit about Bitcoin. They want to make money. And they don't care about defrauding others.

People who support him for some Satoshi don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They are greedy and stupid if they don't insist that some questions should be answerd. And they are part of a criminal system.

But here is still no proof.. this is just what you think.
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Amen.
legendary
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December 09, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
if they paid then why complain?

i dont get it.. just consider that before anything else. also whats up with that google link provided..if you want referrals or people to your site do it properly.

First: Did they pay? Now how does a typical Ponzi work? The scammer takes a little bit money into his hands. Then he finds some persons, let's call them "Group A". He pays a bit of money to "Group A".  And some of this group now jump up and down in sheer excitement, yelling: "See, he's paying!" They get so excited, that they invest into the Ponzi. So the scammer has more money for paying a bit of money to "Group A", which still is shouting: "See, he's paying! All legit!" Now "Group A" is not only shouting, but also actively looking for more investors. Let's call them "Group B". "Group B" also invests. And so on.

Now you say: He's paying. What exactly is he paying? Some dust. Not more.  Let's assume he invested 2 Bitcoin for getting "followers".  If this "Group A" invested then 5 Bitcoin, he already made a profit of 4 Bitcoin. Now Group A promotes the Ponzi, and Group B invests, too. So he has now maybe 20 Bitcoin coming in and invests 2 in the form of some more dust. Group B, very excited, yells: "He's paying, so what could possibly be wrong?" Group C steps in, invests 30 Bitcoin, he invests 3 Bitcoin into Group C... and so on. That's what a Ponzi is.

Now I call him a scammer. Could he prove me wrong? Easily. Does he prove me wrong? No. Why not? Well, because he is a scammer.

In most European countries, people who should and could know that they are supporting a scammer also can be sentenced. So everybody who is promoting the scam - for example with his signature - and who is living in Europe runs the risk to be prosecuted one day. Because at the very beginning of this thread, I asked Cloudminr some questions. He didn't answer. Why? Well, as I said before: He is a scammer and he knows that he'll get away with his Ponzi. Because he understands how his "clients" work: More greed than brains.

So he pays. Can you tell me how much he paid and how much was invested into his scheme? Can you positively confirm that he isn't paying the withdrawals with Bitcoins which were invested into his scheme? Can you show me in the Blockchain payments coming from the mining?

People like him give a shit about Bitcoin. They want to make money. And they don't care about defrauding others.

People who support him for some Satoshi don't give a shit about Bitcoin. They are greedy and stupid if they don't insist that some questions should be answerd. And they are part of a criminal system.
legendary
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December 09, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
if they paid then why complain?

i dont get it.. just consider that before anything else. also whats up with that google link provided..if you want referrals or people to your site do it properly.

You buy a contract for a specific amount of money and get a fraction of that back every day/week. Every clueless idiot says they must be legit because they're paying out, joins the referral scheme and attracts new customers. After a while, the service operator fucks off with all the money, having paid out a tiny fraction to customers in order to fool people into thinking the service is legitimate.
full member
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busting the bastards
December 09, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
if they paid then why complain?

i dont get it.. just consider that before anything else. also whats up with that google link provided..if you want referrals or people to your site do it properly.

In case u missed the explanation in previous page of how CloudMinr.io is scamming people, here it is quoted for u again...

For Johny Depp and other competitor trolls looking to damage our reputation:

Not a single account has been suspended by us. And we will not suspend any accounts, ever.

Our 7 day free trial expires after 7 days, it's kind of sad that you try to use it against us...

-snip-

Really ? You simply denied payment for those who are not paying enough attention to you !!! Angry

First you said payments were not made because of change in payment address...


-snip-

Did you change your payout address or remove it since November 23rd? The payments are not made if the address is not specified or if our system sees inconsistency within the mining results. We'll look into it, thank you for letting us know!

Next your excuse is those who had voucher code of 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically. I dont know, how they were paid for first 2 week then ? Anyways, you said this issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes.

I contacted our developer - he found out the issue immediately. The accounts that only have voucher code 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically (mined coins get updated though), unless they visit our site and thus "request" the mined bitcoins to be added to their balance.

I believe you did not really visit our site since November 23rd? Smiley

This issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes and free 10 GH/s users will be able to receive your payouts without logging in.

Almost a day has passed, still people are complaining about not receiving payment...

-snip-

It seems I confused another payment as CloudMinr payment. Practically I have not received any payment after 2014-11-23. So two week of payment is due for me. My ID is 'bonvita'. Expecting to receive payments soon...

What more proof do we need to get convinced that you are a bloody scammer ?

Johny Dep everyone was paid! Not a lot more to say!

By the way the "Thread" link in the signature link to page 7 of the thread :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850784.120

It would be better if it linked to page 1 or the latest page

Are u blind ? Or lie anything for your signature ? Have some spine to speak the truth. Quoting below the words from unpaid people. Statements asking for payment has been made larger and colorful in case if u have eyesight problem...

I contacted our developer - he found out the issue immediately. The accounts that only have voucher code 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically (mined coins get updated though), unless they visit our site and thus "request" the mined bitcoins to be added to their balance.

I believe you did not really visit our site since November 23rd? Smiley

This issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes and free 10 GH/s users will be able to receive your payouts without logging in.

Thanks for the update. No I did not log in for more than 2 week. Expecting to receive the payout soon...


After 2014-11-23, I have received my payout on 2014-12-08. May I know why the payment is missed in between ? My ID is bonvita.

You should probably contact CLoudminr through the support tab on the website. I tend to get replies their sooner.

It seems I confused another payment as CloudMinr payment. Practically I have not received any payment after 2014-11-23. So two week of payment is due for me. My ID is 'bonvita'. Expecting to receive payments soon...
newbie
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December 09, 2014, 02:32:40 PM
if they paid then why complain?

i dont get it.. just consider that before anything else. also whats up with that google link provided..if you want referrals or people to your site do it properly.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
December 09, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
I'm pretty happy with this site so far and it compares favorably to other cloud mining services.

Check out my site below for bitcoin mining profitability comparisons and free offers!

https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/   Wink

Oh how I love it when newbies promote scammers. Doesn't look like a coincidence at all. At least we have someone to go after once the Cloudminr-Ponzi collapses  Cool

Wait a minute... Is cloudminr a confirmed scam?  I'm still getting payouts from them.

Right, and I may be "new" here but I am honestly just trying to find the best ways to invest in bitcoin!

How would you call someone who acts like a scammer and takes your money? A priest?
sr. member
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December 09, 2014, 01:59:49 PM
Hello!

To Johny Depp and similar trolls:

The issue was only for those who has voucher code contracts only. It was indeed fixed within a few minutes and these users will receive all their future payouts, even without logging in.

"It was fixed" means that future payouts (including what was missed) will be received without users needed to log in. It did not imply that we have sent the missing payments.

Please contact us through support if you want to have issues fixed in a timely fashion. We don't read this forum often mostly because fighting competitor trolls is a way lower priority than supporting our customers.
I send you a private message did you get it ?
full member
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Compare Cloud Miners By Daily Payout!!
December 09, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
I'm pretty happy with this site so far and it compares favorably to other cloud mining services.

Check out my site below for bitcoin mining profitability comparisons and free offers!

https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/   Wink

Oh how I love it when newbies promote scammers. Doesn't look like a coincidence at all. At least we have someone to go after once the Cloudminr-Ponzi collapses  Cool

Wait a minute... Is cloudminr a confirmed scam?  I'm still getting payouts from them.

Right, and I may be "new" here but I am honestly just trying to find the best ways to invest in bitcoin!
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
December 09, 2014, 12:48:11 PM
I'm pretty happy with this site so far and it compares favorably to other cloud mining services.

Check out my site below for bitcoin mining profitability comparisons and free offers!

https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/   Wink

Oh how I love it when newbies promote scammers. Doesn't look like a coincidence at all. At least we have someone to go after once the Cloudminr-Ponzi collapses  Cool
full member
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Compare Cloud Miners By Daily Payout!!
December 09, 2014, 12:27:03 PM
I'm pretty happy with this site so far and it compares favorably to other cloud mining services.

Check out my site below for bitcoin mining profitability comparisons and free offers!

https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/   Wink

newbie
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December 09, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
WOW! In real life you burn shop when someone makes mistake giving you change?  Cheesy
full member
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busting the bastards
December 09, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
Johny Dep everyone was paid! Not a lot more to say!

By the way the "Thread" link in the signature link to page 7 of the thread :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850784.120

It would be better if it linked to page 1 or the latest page

Are u blind ? Or lie anything for your signature ? Have some spine to speak the truth. Quoting below the words from unpaid people. Statements asking for payment has been made larger and colorful in case if u have eyesight problem...

I contacted our developer - he found out the issue immediately. The accounts that only have voucher code 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically (mined coins get updated though), unless they visit our site and thus "request" the mined bitcoins to be added to their balance.

I believe you did not really visit our site since November 23rd? Smiley

This issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes and free 10 GH/s users will be able to receive your payouts without logging in.

Thanks for the update. No I did not log in for more than 2 week. Expecting to receive the payout soon...


After 2014-11-23, I have received my payout on 2014-12-08. May I know why the payment is missed in between ? My ID is bonvita.

You should probably contact CLoudminr through the support tab on the website. I tend to get replies their sooner.

It seems I confused another payment as CloudMinr payment. Practically I have not received any payment after 2014-11-23. So two week of payment is due for me. My ID is 'bonvita'. Expecting to receive payments soon...
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 10:13:16 AM
Johny Dep everyone was paid! Not a lot more to say!

By the way the "Thread" link in the signature link to page 7 of the thread :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850784.120

It would be better if it linked to page 1 or the latest page
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
December 09, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
For Johny Depp and other competitor trolls looking to damage our reputation:

Not a single account has been suspended by us. And we will not suspend any accounts, ever.

Our 7 day free trial expires after 7 days, it's kind of sad that you try to use it against us...

-snip-

Really ? You simply denied payment for those who are not paying enough attention to you !!! Angry

First you said payments were not made because of change in payment address...


-snip-

Did you change your payout address or remove it since November 23rd? The payments are not made if the address is not specified or if our system sees inconsistency within the mining results. We'll look into it, thank you for letting us know!

Next your excuse is those who had voucher code of 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically. I dont know, how they were paid for first 2 week then ? Anyways, you said this issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes.

I contacted our developer - he found out the issue immediately. The accounts that only have voucher code 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically (mined coins get updated though), unless they visit our site and thus "request" the mined bitcoins to be added to their balance.

I believe you did not really visit our site since November 23rd? Smiley

This issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes and free 10 GH/s users will be able to receive your payouts without logging in.

Almost a day has passed, still people are complaining about not receiving payment...

-snip-

It seems I confused another payment as CloudMinr payment. Practically I have not received any payment after 2014-11-23. So two week of payment is due for me. My ID is 'bonvita'. Expecting to receive payments soon...

What more proof do we need to get convinced that you are a bloody scammer ?

Sorry, but i don't see here any proof .. just issues. Do you have any proof?
full member
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busting the bastards
December 09, 2014, 09:44:13 AM
For Johny Depp and other competitor trolls looking to damage our reputation:

Not a single account has been suspended by us. And we will not suspend any accounts, ever.

Our 7 day free trial expires after 7 days, it's kind of sad that you try to use it against us...

-snip-

Really ? You simply denied payment for those who are not paying enough attention to you !!! Angry

First you said payments were not made because of change in payment address...


-snip-

Did you change your payout address or remove it since November 23rd? The payments are not made if the address is not specified or if our system sees inconsistency within the mining results. We'll look into it, thank you for letting us know!

Next your excuse is those who had voucher code of 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically. I dont know, how they were paid for first 2 week then ? Anyways, you said this issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes.

I contacted our developer - he found out the issue immediately. The accounts that only have voucher code 10 GH/s contracts do not get their account balances updated automatically (mined coins get updated though), unless they visit our site and thus "request" the mined bitcoins to be added to their balance.

I believe you did not really visit our site since November 23rd? Smiley

This issue will be fixed within 1 - 2 minutes and free 10 GH/s users will be able to receive your payouts without logging in.

Almost a day has passed, still people are complaining about not receiving payment...

-snip-

It seems I confused another payment as CloudMinr payment. Practically I have not received any payment after 2014-11-23. So two week of payment is due for me. My ID is 'bonvita'. Expecting to receive payments soon...

What more proof do we need to get convinced that you are a bloody scammer ?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
December 09, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
any chance I can get a vip code? 

Yes of course, it is very easy: "We offer a VIP program for customers who have purchased a mining contract over 2 TH/s."

I think, they are also giving out a VIP promotion code here on the forum to test it out.

Probably you think about signature campaign participants. For test are 100 GHz - 1 week trials..
full member
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GreenCoin
December 09, 2014, 09:28:33 AM
any chance I can get a vip code? 

Yes of course, it is very easy: "We offer a VIP program for customers who have purchased a mining contract over 2 TH/s."

I think, they are also giving out a VIP promotion code here on the forum to test it out.
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