Topic: [ANN] CLOUDMINR - page 89. (Read 223737 times)

A couple dollars today a couple thousand tomorrow, stealing is stealing and unethical is unethical pure and simple. BTW since you didnt see I did log in before the 21 day period they mention, thus why i am a bit frustrated this has happened.

Just because you meet an ROI does not mean you should be ripped off and accept it, this was an investment that a return is expected for the duration of the contract one has paid for. reaching your ROI does not give one the right to stick it in your rear. And even tho I had logged in within this time limit, its not laziness, it is a matter of ethics, there is no reason one should have to log in to check their account, this is an unethical system put in place by cloudminr.io plain and simple. This stipulation should not exist. We should not have to babysit our accounts in order for things to stay status quo.

Actually yes it is stealing, can I get that BTC back? have they refunded our accounts? No and No thus STEALING, the definition of stealing is to take something that does not belong to you. They took X amount of BTC. I outlined why what they did is stealing above. They took an amount of BTC thru an unethical system, one that i might add I had not met (I have logged in before the 21 day FAQ terms). The funds were taken from my account, without my permission, and applied to a program that I can neither get back my funds, nor sell the contract to have it returned. SO they took Bitcoins from me and applied it into a system that can not allow retrieval of said BTC benefiting them. That is stealing.

If there was an ability to get the funds back in one way or another then it would still be stealing, but its like if you robbed a bank and gave the money back, you still stole the money but at least you tried to make it right. Either way there is no grey area when it comes to stealing, if you take something that is not yours to take you have stolen and this is exactly what has happened.

Yes, but to be honest that is an indication of real mining to me. When you're mining you never make the exact estimated amount. Sometimes more, oftentimes less.
Another cloud service I am with gives perfectly symmetrical payouts that reflect the estimated amount. They pay daily and each day the payment is identical, changing only when the difficulty changes. Makes me wonder if it really is a mining setup, or if they are just paying you what the estimated amount is from the stash of bitcoins people give them buying new contracts.

Im at 100%+ ROI as are several of my friends.   The auto-reinvest feature was not turned on for us.  I myself do log in everyday or two to check my account.   If a few dollars means so much to you, how difficult is it to log in once in a while to check on your account?  I would assume they might generate income or better search results from active traffic.  It's not like they hid that information from you before you invested.  

You people who have ROId should stop complaining - Its virtually free money now - all for the cost of having to log in once in a while to check your own account.  Just goes to show how lazy some people are and how some people expect something for nothing.

Even though i dont understand the reasoning behind the auto-reinvest feature being turned on automatically, Im sure there is a reason.  If not - cloudminr.io has not given me any reason to doubt them yet.  Payouts and response time are still consistent and if there are any issues - such as the possibility of shutting down, hopefully they will remain consistent and be transparent about it and give those who are not at 100% ROI and profiting the chance to earn back some of their investment.

Anyone else experienced the last few payout being less than estimated?

It's not stealing if they auto reinvest into your account...It would be stealing if the BTC would be taken ouf of your account without GH/s compensation.

So far, more than 90% ROI, not a single missed payment + 7-8 manual withdrawals....Wonder what will happen tomorrow with their hardware shipment.

And yeah, a bit of transparency would help.

Its not a problem man, no apology needed, I personally think he is preparing to shut down, he has to many red flags happening, I can assure you I am on no campaign against cloudminr.io, of all the places we tested this was one of our favorites. We liked the responses we got from the support team when testing them, we liked the payouts, but now they seem to be doing some of the same things other services did months before they closed the doors. There are a few other things I have not mentioned that we have found as well, but not enough real proof to support a post about the findings yet.

I did give them a chance to explain, and none of the tickets I submitted even showed up in my account, I did not even get an email confirmation that a ticket was submitted, and no response still today. I dont mind problems, i dont mind mistakes, I hate when there is a problem or mistake and I am either lied to or ignored. That enrages me. I would rather they tell me , hey man I messed up and we are sorry, to be honest if that would have happened, I would have said , Its ok , keep the contract as is and lets move on and make sure my account never goes into auto re-invest. I am actually more compromisable than I lead on

The other tickets I submitted in the past were usually answered within hours actually, This one was of the things we liked most about cloudminr.io. It never even made it to 24 hours, but we are well working on 48 hours now so hmmm so for me it threw another red flag.

I have seen a lot with a lot of services out there in the tests we ran, even fake transactions where they would send BTC back and forth within their own wallet and post it as a transaction, one comnpany self generated addresses and sent member payments to thier own address, and then posted these payments for thier members account on their website, that was one of the most obnoxious things we ever saw. wow some people. So for us, after seeing everything we did in our tests of a lot of services, its hard to believe anything when the problems begin happening. And when you see smoke, you know there's fire, unfortunately I am starting to see an awful lot of smoke.

Trust and believe I would love to see them not fold under and prove my hypothesis wrong, but so far they are playing right along with all the other services that have since folded under.

I can agree with you on one thing this has been only the second problem I have encountered, the first problem was explained, and dealt with very quickly. SO in agreeance with you before this past week we had nothing but positive experience with them as well.

Cyberpinoy I want to personally apologize to you, I am losing my cool somewhat because I feel there is a campaign that is smearing cloudminr, and my experience has been nothing but positive.

For the record I did not insult you, but I did say to get your head out of your ass. What I can't understand is why, if he was going to run off, he would not have already. He is paying out 100 btc per week. He would have to be getting more than 100 btc per week investment to justify continuing to pay out If it is a ponzi. Their are signs that do make me suspicious of the activities of cloudminr but I am yet to see anything that is blatantly not legit. If you say it has only been 18 days since you last logged on, sure that is weird but I think you need to wait and see what comes of it before making defamatory statements. Maybe it was an error in the code. It seems to me to be a fairly small operation and it is possible that mistakes were make. I just think he deserve a little benefit of the doubt until he blatantly does wrong to anyone within the community. Expecting a response within 24 hours is a little unreasonable IMO. I have been in touch with before and he got back to me quickly but the site has been growing. Give a few days at least.

My two cents...
-Mulletwang 

I am also at 100% profit and I have NO referrals at all. I dont like cloud mining referral systems they are a sure way to destroy a good service.

*lol* Trolls all around.

Fact is: Cloudminr.io payed every sunday so far. I get my ROI without 7-10%-referalls. So what?
My Bankmanager offers 0.8% per year. So what?
Dealing with BTC is risky, for shure ... but the income with splitting the risk is exorbitant. So what?
You have to try it before talk about it, because a Troll is also a scammer of your possible income.

@Cyber: BTC-trading is daytrading, but not sit&wait to become rich.

best regards,
ritch

Just so you know, before you start throwing insults around, I was not inactive for 21 days Thus now maybe you can better understand my frustration, and then to not get a reply at all from customer support just makes the situation worse. It had only been 18 days since my last login. So my head is right where it needs to be and this still makes cloudminr responsible for stealing. Whenever you do anything to a persons account that is not authorized by the account holder, and it results in a loss of investment or funds, that is stealing. And not even being shrouded by the security of an FAQ can protect you from unethical acts. However I was still well within my 21 days and it still happened to me.

You can not be so naive to see there seems to be a pattern here, why all the sudden all these complaints about this, why do they not have these complaints this bad before? Just all the sudden everyone starts getting auto re-invest enabled. Wake up man, that statement in the FAQ is set up just so they have a security blanket to steal our earnings and make it look legit, its no different than any other scam ponzi that went down.

I find it funny I have never had a problem with them then all the sudden i am at 100% profit and BOOM problems, then I see I am not the only one, others were effected by the same situation, i don't know if they are under their 21 day allowance but I know I was

All I can say is wow guys. You knew you could not sell the gigahash back when you bought, you should have know that 21 days of inactive logout would result in reinvestment.... This is all public information that you should have been aware of prior to investing.... If your looking for someone to blame then go look in the mirror.
No one owes you a damn thing because you invested from a position of ignorance. Sure I can agree that it is not the most user friendly policy but maybe just maybe it help the operator to maintain his operations. I think that is fair all things considered.

Get your head out of your asses, the operator is not stealing anyone's profits he is simply giving them more gigahash instead of btc payment. Which, in theory, should result is higher btc payment. If that is not what you want then contact the operator to have this turned off or log in once every three weeks. Personally I don't think that it is as unfair as you are portraying it to be.


-Mulletwang

Yes what makes it unethical is the base of its nature, imagine how much BTC they saved last week by not having to pay out an X number of accounts and making it so they never will have to pay that payment by re-investing it. It would be much different if we could sell that specific contract back to them, but that is not an option. Because we are forced to keep that contract, no matter how people want to rationalize the situation, at the end of the day what they have done is stolen.

Dude, I'm not interested in selling my hashrate, I am participating in this mining service, it's not like I'm a troll or anything. It just seems weird and maybe a tad bit unethical and all I'm asking is the reason behind it because it doesn't make sense.

Legitimate answer. Thanks! I'll check out your site sometime.

First you should not have to contact them to have it disabled, this is just adding insult to injury.

Secondly it should never have happened, this is a pure sign they are running out of funds and making us that have already reached our ROI pay for their mistakes in business management. So to make it more clear the ones who helped build their site to what it is today by being some of the first to invest with them they are slapping in the face as they fold under.

Why would anyone sell you at a liquidation price on an investment that has already reached its ROI, giving you a discount when cloudminr.io is at fault, maybe they should add a feature where we can sell our hashrate back to them, Yet another ponzi like system, not able to sell back your investment.

Don't expect anyone to sell you under market value, especially those of us who have already met our ROI. We are not the ones making the mistake, make a deal with cloudminr.io who can purchase it from us over market value, since it is their fault we are complaining and getting scammed, and you can buy it from them under market value, they can start a new campaign and call it Pre-Loved GHS at discount prices.

No they asked I replied, simple as that.

I am here to find out why cloudminr.io unethically turned on Auto re-invest on our accounts. Their excuses so far are lacking real reason. And the explanation there of they point us to in the TOS is for lost p[passwords not unattended accounts. I wonder how many of those effected by this mysterious auto re-invest switch on have already met their ROI and have not re-invested much the past couple months? I know I have not added funds, or re-invested since the conclusion of our tests with them. This was a way for us to test this site, as we did others while doing our research.

I actually had a bbit of faith in these guys, but I mnust say that trust and faith has now flown out the window as their ponzi comes to a close.

Well said Sir !!!!

Ooooh so you are here to promote your own business !!!   

Yes i do own Stakeminers.com, a service that has verifiable evidence of our stake mining power right in your account every time you log in, You don't have to ask us. Also our support team (me) responds to all support concerns within 24 hours, and can personally be reached in a variety of ways available to our investors.

I had this account long before my site was launched, we did multiple tests with many cloud mining services to investigate their flaws, their problems, and their benefits to provide the world of crypto with the ultimate cloud mining service that would never scam them, or do unethical things like Turning ON automatic re-invest without our investors authorization.

I also have a handful of cloud mining sites I recommend to people and watch them very closely so not to promote a Ponzi scam, cloudminr.io will be taken off my informational site very soon.



Ironic you are so quick to judge, yet my site is not who-is guarded, my site has physical address, and telephone number where i can be reached directly, my site offers the proof of your investment is right in your members account page every time you log in and backed by the blockchains for each and every wallet we stake on, My site does not offer a ponzi like referral system that takes funds or hashrates from new investors to pass onto older investors. Yet you call my business a scam and then oops It seems I am not the only one having this auto-reinvest issue.

I also find it quite curious that this is the first time people have had this situation. It is Amazing the things companies in crypto do and get away with, I would love to see the look on a stock holders face when he realized you withheld his dividends because he did not come by the business for more than 21 days, yea that would float over like a lead balloon.

Also been over 24 hours and no reply to support tickets.

well guys cloudminr.io scam is now beginning, stop referrals, stop everything and watch how quickly they close the doors,