Topic: ★★ [ANN] ECCoin (ECC) ★★★ ECCoin - Green Future FORK FIXED UPGRADE NEEDED - page 24. (Read 342487 times)

We live in a tough world. let me remind you this "Winners Are Not Those Who Never Fail, But Those Who Never Quit."

Let's donate more ECC here.

Status: 3/unconfirmed, broadcast through 3 nodes
Date: 6/8/2014 19:39
To: EfGakVA5FBrRUfC79zyGwU8MuvzHKWuMjM
Debit: -100000.00 ECC
Transaction fee: -0.001 ECC
Net amount: -100000.001 ECC
Transaction ID: 59de741598f544e7f3f65bd245552d504fc0861c70039a534419d2e882f87eb2

I agree with most of what is being said here. Will be a shame to see the multi pool take another couple weeks but we will see… There will be no point in a multi pool if we are not listed on any decent exchanges to create market liquidity.

In another light…. we are a little over half way to reaching our first goal for the "ECC for Trees" Project.

http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/EfGakVA5FBrRUfC79zyGwU8MuvzHKWuMjM

Address: EfGakVA5FBrRUfC79zyGwU8MuvzHKWuMjM

Thanks everyone for your support so far

Maybe I've missed it.. but I have a question about the multipool.

Why would anyone mine on a multipool which pays out in ECC?  

Sure, mining will raise the price of ECC by purchasing it on the market, but that rise will immediately be pushed down by the supply from the miner(s), and there will be an arms race to sell first after each rise, not just from miners, but from existing holders looking to get out (or trade) on the position.  Its a zero-sum game.

I can see a multipool adding value with a higher ECC price in terms of adding liquidity/availability and stability to the price, but right now what we need more is a reason for people to buy and hold, with a reasonable expectation of value increase in the future.  Professional miners are not, by their nature, currency holders.

IMO what we need for ECC to succeed as a currency is:

1.  Commercial purpose (utility = value)
2.  Marketing

Marketing is the easy part.  The tricky part is commercial purpose and making a currency which works i.e. which can be used to obtain goods/services or as an exchange of value.  We need things like:

commerce tools for merchants

• Plugins for supporting ECC on various ecommerce carts (Woo-commerce, Magento and Opencart)
  
  • Check-out payment with ECC
  • Pricing in ECC (i.e. treat similar to Forex - price based on exchange rate)
• Merchant wallet integration for said carts (transaction lists, balances, outstanding invoices etc.)
  

Improved tools for users

• mobile wallets for android, iphone
• merchant directory of supporting vendors (geolocation, search, etc.)
• crypto-ATM support
• p2p marketplace

Sure, all the things like decentralised marketplaces, online contracts and asset-exchanges are sexy, but this is an emerging market, and the fact is 99.9999% of online and physical commerce happens via existing retail channels, and its a market which is being largely ignored by the crypto market in the face of fads and fashion, and ideology.

It seems that cryptocoins as a segment are currently failing at being actual currencies.  Everyone's trying to think 10 steps down the line to replacing fiat currencies and exchange mechanisms, and ignoring the obvious step of working alongside them using existing infrastructure.

I think a strong focus on leveraging those existing channels, even if we only achieve a tiny percentage of merchants, will show vastly more growth and increased awareness among the general public than any decentralised asset exchange.  

The crypto community is small, really small.

The whole market cap of Bitcoin is less than the value of some app-store apps.  What we should be trying to do is increase the size/appeal of the crypto market, not fight for a share of it.

No offense to hostmaster, but the most exciting thing I've seen for ECC since I started reading about cryptocoins (less than 2 months ago) is Goldmaxx talking about moving the coin forwards.  It seems that things have kind of stagnated or been lacking direction, and having someone new with determination and an ability to organise is a good step forwards.  At this stage I'm hoping that between hostmaster and goldmaxx, they can build a team who can work to put ECC on the broader commerce map.

Orinoco (BCompSci, MBA)

Like all other "GREEN PROJECTS" in the world....It's just an excuse to get to your money.

This coin is an illusion, it will never stand up again. Forget it and move on.

tatus: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 7 node(s)
Date: 2014/6/8 17:38
To: EMuj9YDmwYRujdKFVoGPwPEMyoW5ghTXg1
Debit: -1800000.00 ECC
Transaction fee: -0.001 ECC
Net amount: -1800000.001 ECC
Transaction ID: 3bef0f1fb5aadef71dda65325572f92a19331a748c0749da668c39be2a88a248

 

For richlist, donated 1M

oh common.... on every page, a visitor can see only hostmaster. the dev, asking for donations.... cut it out a little bit...

giving you 1 or 2 btc... will make you work harder of faster? people are willing to give you free knowledge to help you with the pool,
and for what i am seeing.. you are not replying...

You or anyone don't have to pay but we have to test before opening pool.
We paid nearly 1 BTC to leaserig to test enough the pool so far. another 1 btc to go Pool dev is not robot and human like you. He is developing one of most advanced (the best) multi pool on earth. He work faster when you admire him enough. When i say him look this amount collected for you to work faster. enjoy. He feels better and it's easier for him to spend his holiday times for the project.

so what 1 or 2 btc will make typing code faster? and furthermore asking for donation with ecc, that means you will dump it in the market?
and dumping means price falling again... and on the other hand keeping the donation means no profit for you, so you wont be able to speed up the process...

He is not asking it to dump. He is fan of ECC like you.
It's fact that pool need lots of miners to see everything in order and can find blocks, unless finding a block we dont know a coin really works and whats coded really works. And it does not attract new miners a pool without miners.

two sided knife...that donation... (which looks like begging, from the many times you asked for donation)

after seeing so many dev teams and coins, during the time i am with you, i can say i am the most active one ever seen in bitcointalk. So you are really lucky with it.


and even if the pool is finished..i dont believe anyone will hash anymore... the topic for the last 3 months is multipool...
multipool will be ready, multipool that, multipool there... multipool this... lets test lets test.....for all these months if you were just opening an simple LTC-Doge pool....
we would already have the price at 10 satoshi... trust in your words is lost, host, sorry to say that.


To better evaluate our pool look at MPOS, NOMP all these projects are same category with what we do. Are they stopping any? No they will continue development like we do. We are working on API system no other pool project has yet... Something new. and takes time. Its developed to solve low amount of hashing problem currently we faced.


cryptos are fast, moving every day from new technologies and ideas... we are stuck here with a multipool...in which noone will mine, cause new coins offer 100% more profit,
they will be more profitable, even with the risk included...

Yes it's not an investment and it's just a tool in a life. You should own ECC to support its goals. ECC has goals to give message to crowds. Remember "green future" and activities we involved so far. Green multipool. A pool, crypto, giving a green message...


Personally i lost 2 months almost with 0 profit on ecc... and most of the guys on the rich list are feeling the same....

why you think so? It's a free market there is ups and downs, always. Cryptos is not to invest but a tool to use. We not try to increase its price but usage only.

I prefer i would have been scammed, instead of promises and promises... this is more painfull to watch...

-It should not be painful. it's a game, accept it like this.

we were talking about anonymity, a new trend, Variable POS, POS2,sms wallet,  new ideas new hypes on coins...
you bypassed all these ideas...and still on the multipool....  -- sorry.. old outdated news...!!

-Yes after searching many cryptos about anon feature, i decided most of them are hype, and we are not hypeing ECC. If we see real crypto doing it we will look for the implement it. Remember "coin control" implementation at wallet 1.3... We can improve our product.

and after the summer, when the multipool, is finished... and no one is hashing there, we will announce anonymity... and make another 6 months to finish anonymity,
and after that another 6 month for a new tech... what i am trying to say, is that we are alwayws 3 MONTHS,  behind revolution...

-Do not decide by looking at prices on anything, you have coins and they are certain ratio in total. You can see how much progress completed so far. You can better make up your mind about future.

they even announced a summercoin V2, and its still making more profit that the whole ecc did... ahahha this is for laughing... for a second time...
that means people are willing to play - bet... not just come here and see false promises and beggings for donation.

To speed up pool development send ECCs here
EMuj9YDmwYRujdKFVoGPwPEMyoW5ghTXg1

http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/EMuj9YDmwYRujdKFVoGPwPEMyoW5ghTXg1