Hey) On yobit will be traded? When adding a date? 
They stated within two business days.
We paid on Friday so I imagine Tuesday or Wednesday we should be listed.
Or at least hear word from them
Topic: ⚡[ANN]⚡ ▐░Espers [ESP]░▌▐░PoW/PoS░▌▐░HMQ1725 Algo░▌ ▐░New Features░▌ - page 707. (Read 924216 times)
April 25, 2016, 01:37:18 AM
They stated within two business days.
We paid on Friday so I imagine Tuesday or Wednesday we should be listed.
Or at least hear word from them
April 25, 2016, 01:32:36 AM
Hey) On yobit will be traded? When adding a date?
They stated within two business days.
We paid on Friday so I imagine Tuesday or Wednesday we should be listed.
Or at least hear word from them
April 25, 2016, 01:30:06 AM
Hey) On yobit will be traded? When adding a date?
April 25, 2016, 01:06:10 AM
oc please check your inbox, we need some help with the pool backend
We would like to ask you to Please refrain from using this thread as a means to contact members personally.
It doesn't belong in this development thread. Thank you for understanding
Edit: I'm sure ocminer will get to your PM asap as he runs avery reputable service and is a very knowledgeable individual.
April 25, 2016, 01:02:50 AM
oc please check your inbox, we need some help with the pool backend
April 25, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
April 25, 2016, 12:40:40 AM
Thank you Griffith for all of that information!
Also might I add it's nice to see you again!
We will be sure to extensively review the large article you posted for us and apply any and all required changes to assure proper function of our block chain.
Your assistance and attention to detail is greatly appreciated and we welcome all suggestions.
Especially from a rebound member such as yourself who runs many projects as well and is pioneering the crypto world like we are.
Please let us know if you ever want to take a second look at flappy coin as we would love to help you since you have taken the time to help us
Also might I add it's nice to see you again!
We will be sure to extensively review the large article you posted for us and apply any and all required changes to assure proper function of our block chain.
Your assistance and attention to detail is greatly appreciated and we welcome all suggestions.
Especially from a rebound member such as yourself who runs many projects as well and is pioneering the crypto world like we are.
Please let us know if you ever want to take a second look at flappy coin as we would love to help you since you have taken the time to help us
that coin is actually fully functional, the chain just forked and people gave up on it. a larger problem extended from there being no real seed nodes for a while. but that is neither here nor there and doesnt really belong on this thread.
April 25, 2016, 12:35:32 AM
April 25, 2016, 12:32:07 AM
April 25, 2016, 12:12:00 AM
Please PM us, this is not a client issue, the block size is MUCH larger than other clients, for instance, 020Londoncoin has a MUCH SMALLER block size limit with a total coin coint of 200Billion, yet ALL OTHER MINING POOLS HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE LIMIT WITHDRAWAL.
So before accusing us and pointing to github links that have nothing to do with anything we would request that you work with us to resolve the issue.
If a 9MB chain has NO ISSUES how in the hell does this 15MB chain limit have them???
Also a 303Million transaction size usually runs ~600 bytes..... Explain to me how 10Million is mor ethan 15MB seems like a gross error on your end.
IntroSo before accusing us and pointing to github links that have nothing to do with anything we would request that you work with us to resolve the issue.
If a 9MB chain has NO ISSUES how in the hell does this 15MB chain limit have them???
Also a 303Million transaction size usually runs ~600 bytes..... Explain to me how 10Million is mor ethan 15MB seems like a gross error on your end.
as much as i enjoyed reading that back and forth between you and the pool because i find every code fight on bitcointalk amusing as no one bothers to just go check the code itself, i feel like i should just clear the air.
it seems you dont quiteeee understand how transaction sizes work (your static sizes is a good example of a main concept that seems to be missing) so let me explain why it is a client problem and not a pool problem.
A little background
your MAX_BLOCK_SIZE is 15000000. or 15 MB and thats all fine and dandy. this is stated here: https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/15c240ea22e693d06fc3ffb2cd587bd3f8b1e978/src/main.h#L30
a few lines below it, you set a MAX_STANDARD_TX_SIZE of MAX_BLOCK_SIZE_GEN/5 or 3MB. this is stated here: https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/15c240ea22e693d06fc3ffb2cd587bd3f8b1e978/src/main.h#L36
now, someone pointed out earlier in the thread that transaction sizes are NOT static but are instead dynamic based on the number of inputs. this is true and has been the way it has been done since bitcoin does it this way.
so the pool is trying to send a transaction right? cool. thats fine. OCMiner said he entered the command ./Espersd sendtoaddress 10000000 from his daemon that is running the pool. and is getting the error Transaction too large.
The code to send a transaction
if you look at the code for this... found here: https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/62853947a2a87d923c5cbecf467d2abe29a38e8d/src/wallet.cpp#L1304
you will see that you limit the size a transaction can be. as you so nicely put a comment above it saying // Espers: Added safety margin 4000 bytes and 160 transactions
transactions are limited to the following (this code is found under the previous link to wallet.cpp line 1304)
THIS is the size of the transaction >>>> unsigned int nBytes = ::GetSerializeSize(*(CTransaction*)&wtxNew, SER_NETWORK, PROTOCOL_VERSION);
if ((nBytes + 4000 >= MAX_STANDARD_TX_SIZE) ||
(wtxNew.vin.size() >= 160))
{
strFailReason = _("Transaction too large");
return false;
}
now that code snippit above says that if the size of the transaction + 4000 bytes is greater than the limit you set in main.h (3MB or 3000000 bytes) OR the number of inputs to make the TX is more than 160 inputs. the transaction is rejected for being too large.
The rejection conditions
lets start with the first check, since you add 4000 to the transaction size, your max TX size is actually 3,000,000 - 4,000 = 2,996,000. it is highly unlikely that from mining 50k coin blocks you have passed this 2.9MB limit. but in the future if your inputs are smaller you could approach this number when trying to send larger amounts of coins. this is however not terribly likely. so lets look at the second conditional...
now we will go over the second scenario (HINT HINT THIS IS THE PROBLEM). if a block is 50,000 esp then to make a transaction send 10 million you need to have inputs from a MINIMUM of 200 blocks(where each block is an input) (50,000 * 200 = 10,000,000) making the transaction impossible and unable to send due to input limiting. (im assuming that no input is greater than 50,000 coins because it is a mining pool and that is the number coins per block)
MORE THAN LIKELY it will be the case that more than 200 inputs are needed if none of the inputs were from blocks were a large number of coins were received like the premine or even from regular mining. this is why his transaction is failing. too many inputs causing the transaction to be too large.
Im confused, how did 300 million get sent earlier???
well then how did you send 300 million to each person? well thats simple. the premine was probably mined in only a few blocks. that means when you sent from whatever the initial premine was. it only had a few inputs, making it possible to send the coins.
WOW what does this all mean?
based on this reasoning, the longer the coin is around and the more it is traded, the more inputs will be required in order to send a large amount of coins. this means that over time the amount of coins per transaction could be limited to as low as a few million even though there are 50 billion total. In order to fix this you either need to restructure the conditionals for a transaction to send (which would require a hard fork as was stated by OCMiner, nice job recognizing the problem btw buddy) OR raise the price of the coin up A LOT so that transactions containing a large number of coins become unlikely. (my guess for this would be each coin needs to be worth about 1 cent or somewhere close but with 50 billion coins this does not seem likely)
Why should i listen to you, you thread trooolll
Actually, i do a lot of dev work myself. and i can safely say i am fairly well versed in how the blockchain works. I was the first one to make a coin that has two different types of addresses that behave independently of each other (see flycoin thread for info on that) and that means that they also had to handle transactions differently. I understand every aspect of transactions from how they are created to how they are encoded and decoded to figure out who they came from and who they were sent to (which the wallet does for you and thats why when a TX is sent to you it shows up in your wallet). i have also made a wallet that runs more than one coin at a time, so i have a pretty good idea of how blockchain tech works.
but most importantly, the code speaks for itself.
Conclusion
I am in no way saying the dev team is a bad team, they seem to be attempting to do some interesting things with the coin and blockchain, but theres going to be a lack of reliability in the brand new stuff if the roots of where it comes from are neglected. So i would recommend going back and reviewing some of the basics of crypto (general theory around transaction and block generation) so the original ideas behind the tech dont become lost in the race for that brand new exciting feature.
April 24, 2016, 11:24:37 PM
We can get a large number of votes at the C-CEX if all vote together . Who voted for free leash all 16 people . It is even less than 10 % of the participants .
April 24, 2016, 11:23:50 PM
hey crypto can I create a bounty are you still giving some decent give away if doing translation? just wanted to check if this still open I missed the first give away and I wanted to checked how to get it aside from the faucet, thanks crypto.
April 24, 2016, 11:16:30 PM
Can we know how much Espers left for the next giveaway? Can you make more strict rules for the next episode of giweaway? To prevent multiple accounts.
Are you guys working at email realization? Your thoughts, when It might be released in beta? (before 2017)
Are you guys working at email realization? Your thoughts, when It might be released in beta? (before 2017)
We are still working on the exact numbers, sorry about that we will post as soon as we know.
About the rules, definitely, we are working on a more stringent system so that the mistakes from the first one are not repeated.
Finally about the emailing system, actually we are hoping to have a beta for you all to test in just a couple weeks (that maybe ambitious and might take actually a couple months) however it is currently our main focus.
Also the next step will be a Light client that allows users to pull certain blocks from the chain as apposed to having to sync the full chain.
This still needs much more testing for security reasons however.
April 24, 2016, 11:03:44 PM
Can we know how much Espers left for the next giveaway? Can you make more strict rules for the next episode of giweaway? To prevent multiple accounts.
Are you guys working at email realization? Your thoughts, when It might be released in beta? (before 2017)
Are you guys working at email realization? Your thoughts, when It might be released in beta? (before 2017)
April 24, 2016, 11:02:05 PM
Wow the ESP/LTC Market seems to be taking a hit on NovaExchange...
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
i think u only post here...why man?...come with us we make history in crypto currency...dont forgot ...any thing possible in crypto....community and dev team and exchanges....make it possible .........not dream we know that truth........ok
April 24, 2016, 10:59:15 PM
Wow the ESP/LTC Market seems to be taking a hit on NovaExchange...
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
i think u only post here...why man?...come with us we make history in crypto currency...dont forgot ...any thing possible in crypto....community and dev team and exchanges....make it possible .........not dream we know that truth........ok
April 24, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
Wow the ESP/LTC Market seems to be taking a hit on NovaExchange...
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
are you one of those haters who doesn't get the give away or just a trolls that made many shitcoin in yobit i'm sure with the way you said that the coin is not unique do you have a leak with regarding to teams project? oh well if yobit refund the money it is not the teams lost as you can see many members here keep posting with an interest to place the coin in the market, as of now we all knew that because of that give away many dumpers are enjoying trading the coin with a less value for ltc but I'm sure that after reaching yobit those dumpers will cry out loud! if you don't believe with this you are free to go , let us support each other, this thread is not self moderated so everyone is welcome to voice out what they wanted to say. I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
April 24, 2016, 10:25:52 PM
Wow the ESP/LTC Market seems to be taking a hit on NovaExchange...
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
We're sorry you feel that way about the situation however, Yobit is a reputable exchange and I've personally seen much crappier projects be listed for horrible reasons.
The price fall is most likely due in part by more dumps as we've payed out to more users who are more than likely dumping their share.
Not unique? I would ask you to elaborate on this baseless claim as this blockchain is considerably different than other projects.
Just because we currently don't have integrated features and have stated that they are under development does not mean that this chain is the same as other projects as if you read any part of the OP it will become apparent very quickly. I would LOVE for you to point out another system with an auto-updater for one. Once other features are implemented as well the statement you made will be completely invalidated.
April 24, 2016, 10:22:40 PM
Wow the ESP/LTC Market seems to be taking a hit on NovaExchange...
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
I am pretty sure YoBit will just refund the money paid for listing as obviously this coin is only suitable for a Litecoin only market & would be pointless being added, sorry to all the Bitcoin Market dreamers but even at 1 Satoshi this would have an insane market cap for something not very unique & not offering very much.
April 24, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Wow so Crypto, CC and the rest of the dev team works overtime to make it possible to trade with yobit, see guys this dev is true to their words so now those who dump the free give away will cry out loud seeing a healthy trading that will happen in the next following days, We should give our dev a round of a applause 
, thank you so much dev team for keeping us always updated in anthing that you do, and keep this community alive. good luck and more power to your project.
, thank you so much dev team for keeping us always updated in anthing that you do, and keep this community alive. good luck and more power to your project. Jump to: