[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 1118.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: altcoinUK on October 29, 2015, 06:54:18 AM

I understand you are very good and successful at selling all kind of digital assets and coins to this audience, I know in the context of designing and selling your coins you know what you do and talking about, but the real world out there works a bit differently than your NXT and IOTA money collecting party in this environment.

All large investment funds as well as individual MSFT investors will take notice of the Ethereum endorsement by Microsoft. Whatever you think about MS, the company is incredible powerful and influential in the finance world as well as in government, and the fact that Ethereum is officially offered on Azure opens many doors for Ethereum. All the fund managers who manage these days the average of $5 billion investment funds are now researching what Ethereum is and no doubt Ethereum is on the way to become a billion dollar company.

Perhaps one of the reasons your NXT is used by absolutely no real world businesses - and most likely your new money party IOTA has the same destiny - is because you don't understand or ignore how influential the big techs and their institutional investor are.

You seem to confuse me with someone else.

Regarding objective (bolded) part of your post, you seem to make no distinction between a technology and a company which makes your words look strange at best and silly at worst. The only excuse I can imagine is that you don't have engineering background and don't know how IT work.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on October 29, 2015, 06:54:18 AM

I understand you are very good and successful at selling all kind of digital assets and coins to this audience [...]

I understand that you are very good at not practicing what you preach.

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Quote from: BiteMyShinyMetalAss on October 29, 2015, 06:52:52 AM

So its just people who bought early are cashing out now and thats it. ETH to the moon is not happening as it is not a currency... So why people are hyping it so much?

Because they want to drive up the price, which is just a desperate act. You have pointed out quite rightly Ethereum is irrelevant as a currency, it is an application platform.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on October 29, 2015, 05:59:52 AM

Quote from: OrientA on October 29, 2015, 04:15:18 AM

Microsoft can buy a lot Eth itself, and develop systems around Ethereum.

MS is late for Bitcoin. Ethereum is till in its early stages. So if MS catches Ethereum bandwagon, it will be rich.

MS catching Ethereum bandwagon sounds as a low quality science fiction novel.

PS: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3qmy6y/thi_reminds_reminds_me_of_the_overstock/

I understand you are very good and successful at selling all kind of digital assets and coins to this audience, I know in the context of designing and selling your coins you know what you do and talking about, but the real world out there works a bit differently than your NXT and IOTA money collecting party in this environment.

All large investment funds as well as individual MSFT investors will take notice of the Ethereum endorsement by Microsoft. Whatever you think about MS, the company is incredible powerful and influential in the finance world as well as in government, and the fact that Ethereum is officially offered on Azure opens many doors for Ethereum. All the fund managers who manage these days the average of $5 billion investment funds are now researching what Ethereum is and no doubt Ethereum is on the way to become a billion dollar company.

Perhaps one of the reasons your NXT is used by absolutely no real world businesses - and most likely your new money party IOTA has the same destiny - is because you don't understand or ignore how influential the big techs and their institutional investor are.

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So its just people who bought early are cashing out now and thats it. ETH to the moon is not happening as it is not a currency... So why people are hyping it so much?

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"The Ethereum DevCon1 conference is set to take place on November 9th in London. In a recently published blog post by George Hallam, the Ethereum team announced that Microsoft would be one of the sponsors of the first-of-its-kind event."

http://blog.holytransaction.com/2015/10/microsoft-to-sponsor-ethereum-devcon1.html

edit: typo on date

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Quote from: BiteMyShinyMetalAss on October 29, 2015, 04:53:25 AM

How many ETH coins are there already? Why would you want to buy ETH if there are going millions of ETH be issued ?

Good question, I'd like to know too...

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Quote from: OrientA on October 29, 2015, 04:15:18 AM

Microsoft can buy a lot Eth itself, and develop systems around Ethereum.

MS is late for Bitcoin. Ethereum is till in its early stages. So if MS catches Ethereum bandwagon, it will be rich.

MS catching Ethereum bandwagon sounds as a low quality science fiction novel.

PS: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3qmy6y/thi_reminds_reminds_me_of_the_overstock/

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Quote from: OrientA on October 29, 2015, 04:15:18 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on October 29, 2015, 01:12:59 AM

Will Microsoft use Ethereum or an Ethereum-like technology? The difference is only in who benefits from the increased popularity - owners of ETH or owners (not existing yet) of MS-ETH. If owners of ETH - why would Microsoft want to make rich someone else?

Microsoft can buy a lot Eth itself, and develop systems around Ethereum.

MS is late for Bitcoin. Ethereum is till in its early stages. So if MS catches Ethereum bandwagon, it will be rich.

Even I am disappointed about the money collecting and money burning party of Vitalik, since I support them for long, I couldn't be happier that Ethereum has been picked up by Microsoft. We can say: Ethereum made it. Microsoft's endorsement is huge and that finally puts Ethereum in the league of Bitcoin. The rest of coins like NXT and the other 600 shit coins can keep dreaming about real world adoption - it will never happen, especially that Ethereum has officially occupied that altcoin space by the endorsement of Microsoft.

However, Microsoft will not buy Eth coins. Why the fuck Microsoft would buy any Eth coins? Microsoft is using the open source technology and very understandably riding the blockchain hype, and they need precisely zero Eth coin in order to do that both.

Here is what's going to happen: both Vitalik and Gavin will be a very rich man (quite rightly so as especially Gavin is an exceptionally talented as well as nice guy). The Ethereum company will be acquired by either MSFT, AAPL or GOOGL. The coin holders and investors will have nothing, except the memories they can tell to their grand children, that 30 years ago they were there when Ethereum became a billion dollar company.
The technology is fantastic, it will be taken to the mass by the big techs such as MSFT and GOOGL, but there is nothing left for coin holders and investors in this process. That's why I sold my Eth holding by realising a very nice profit, financially there is nothing here for us early stage supporters/investors.

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Don`t panic! Organize!

Found fork in 445054

Code:

> web3.eth.getBlock(445053)
{
  timestamp: 1445905725,
  hash: '0x46bc77b5404cd12fe38d4078f9e1ae2800b4a47023057f39c27a9ba51b18c2cf'
}
> web3.eth.getBlock(445054)
{
  timestamp: 1445905732,
  hash: '0xe32d03d701a0163557841d7407276128d5b05fff77e8325a4112edcd8337b223'
}
> web3.eth.getBlock(445055)
{
  timestamp: 1445905840,
  hash: '0x99644c3e7af737e57cacec84d20319f8ec769a4fdf91027c264de1a1c16fea6b'
}
>

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ETH is forking?

Code:

> web3.eth.getBlock('latest')
{
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Block 445058 according to https://etherchain.org/block/445058 has different hash...

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How many ETH coins are there already? Why would you want to buy ETH if there are going millions of ETH be issued ?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on October 29, 2015, 01:12:59 AM

Will Microsoft use Ethereum or an Ethereum-like technology? The difference is only in who benefits from the increased popularity - owners of ETH or owners (not existing yet) of MS-ETH. If owners of ETH - why would Microsoft want to make rich someone else?

Microsoft can buy a lot Eth itself, and develop systems around Ethereum.

MS is late for Bitcoin. Ethereum is till in its early stages. So if MS catches Ethereum bandwagon, it will be rich.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: unununium on October 28, 2015, 07:55:52 PM

Quote

The prospect of being able to offer a platform for smart contracts appealed to them, and was the main reason they went with an Ethereum-based product rather than a bitcoin-based one, he said.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/10/28/bitbeat-microsoft-to-offer-ethereum-based-services-on-azure/

Will Microsoft use Ethereum or an Ethereum-like technology? The difference is only in who benefits from the increased popularity - owners of ETH or owners (not existing yet) of MS-ETH. If owners of ETH - why would Microsoft want to make rich someone else?

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http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-rolls-out-ethereum-toolkit-for-business-users/

http://www.coindesk.com/china-wanxiang-blockchain-50-million-fund/

Shocked

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Interesting ETH videos + Microsoft AZURE videos (updated list) :

Cryptography in the Open: History of Crypto and the NSA: https://youtu.be/GvWG4jAen8I

Interesting speech by CEO of Microsoft made in India ...to a bunch of IT students: https://youtu.be/hw00mtT9cLg "Rich cloud infrastructure" "In fact the way I decscribe it is, every device creates this exchaust of data, and the cloud and the power in the cloud can converge that into the fuel...and the intelligence that empowers every one of your experiences". - MICROSOFT AZURE. (quote starts at 5:19)

Another interesting interview made last month (get to know Microsoft and their future vision further): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BourVzXU5o (starts talking about power of AZURE at 7:00)

Paris Microsoft Enterprise group meeting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Hiss2EkE - shot back before Sataya was CEO -- Satya was responsible for building and running Microsoft's computing platforms, developer tools and cloud services. He and his team deliver the "Cloud OS." and was Rumored to be on the short list for CEO at this time, he shares his views on the future.

MICROSOFT AZURE CLOUD VIDEOS: 1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNgvZE0MLeo
2. https://youtu.be/JJ44hEr5DFE

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Quote from: msin on October 28, 2015, 10:21:12 PM

Quote from: Cornett on October 28, 2015, 06:58:16 PM

Very impressed....

.....with Blazin8888's pumping!

ahah thank you.

Nah no pumper though not that wealthy. I just really believe in this project. Glad to spread as much information around as I can for everyone to make their own decision.

ETH the greatest achievement since this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcKahraBiBY

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Very impressive and exciting news here! I will read alot more on the ethereum platform for sure

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Quote from: Cornett on October 28, 2015, 06:58:16 PM

Very impressed....

.....with Blazin8888's pumping!

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In the early 1990s there were only a few million devices connected to the internet....today there are over 1 trillion devices on the internet.

Picture 5 years from now my friends. ETH will be the fuel for these devices.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/technology/personaltech/microsofts-rule-breaking-vision-of-a-future-with-countless-devices.html

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