to be honest I am just investing in etherium for the bubble, I don't believe in the idea,
Thank you for being candid about this!
Please don't invest in an idea you don't believe in. We're not building Ethereum for speculation purposes, period.
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Thank you for being candid about this!
Please don't invest in an idea you don't believe in. We're not building Ethereum for speculation purposes, period.
Have you seen the Ethereum team cashing out the IPO on MtGox ?
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You mean "No more questions will be addressed in this thread. Please refer to the self-moderated Q&A thread."
Why so scared?
to be honest I am just investing in etherium for the bubble, I don't believe in the idea, it just cannot be made in an efficient way, A developer sometimes must give up to the basic principles of the tradeoffs.
But now I am only seeing this bubble bursting on my face as a day 0 investor........
But now I am only seeing this bubble bursting on my face as a day 0 investor........
Charles did his own marketing attempts trying to push this Vitalik as uber genius geek narrative (which he may or may not be. some said he's really clueless on financial side and that might impact way he sees the design of the system in a negative way). The Invictus guy seemed bit weasel like, but he is smart and creative. Their distribution model with angel shares and such was pretty creative, though I wouldn't bet on them. Keep in mind though Charles split from Invictus, so Charles did plenty of work to bring protoshares where it is now. He basically started fresh with Ethereum and needs to catch up a fucking LOT to both Mastercoin and Protoshares (invictus), but especially Mastercoin which now has functional decentralized exchange in beta stage, while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.
Judging from utube, Invictus guy is definitely salesman, Charles sounds like one too. I have no problem giving money to hardworking devs, but I rather flip my coins in casino than giving them to salesmen.
whooooooooaaaaaaaaa
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Why so scared?
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I've never had one question addressed in this thread, what's new?
Would love to answer them if that's the case, post them on the Q&A thread please.
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I've never had one question addressed in this thread, what's new?
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QA thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448923.40
We're also going to run an AMA on Reddit very soon. I'll post the time and dates and soon as all this is confirmed.
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lol they were offered so much money? I thought the idea is fair distribution percentages! so what if you were offered more money why would you delay the IPO schedule? I thought the percentages of the coinbase was fixed?
too much bullshit so far..... literally fail IPO, can't say the same about the software I have to review it even more first, but no one here can deny, FAIL IPO so far.
too much bullshit so far..... literally fail IPO, can't say the same about the software I have to review it even more first, but no one here can deny, FAIL IPO so far.
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while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.
It's turing and we had to delay the IPO because we were offered too much money. If that's failure, then I like to fail
Yes, I would say that is failure. When you are offered too much money you become Ripple 2.0 You lose all credibility with core user base when their small investments are overshadowed by large investors who are throwing money at you because of a list of names associated with Ethereum.
You succeed when you launch a working product. Agree with me or not, the next big thing in crypto is launched with little fanfare. Nxt
When will ethereum be fundraising?
How to get ether? For example, I have some BTCs in a BTC address, do I need to use a special way to send to ethereum fundraising BTC address? Or just like a general send Bitcoins?
After I send my BTCs to ethereum fundraising BTC address, how to check my ether balance?
Will I get the ether as soon as I send BTC to the ethereum fundraising address?
Any idea about this?
If ethereum could do something like Counterparty/XCP did, it would be better, like investors can get and check their XCP balance as soon as they burned their BTCs. If not, this should be a centralized IPO.
Also posted this on ethereum forum: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/271/when-and-how-ethereum-will-be-fundraising?new=1
How to get ether? For example, I have some BTCs in a BTC address, do I need to use a special way to send to ethereum fundraising BTC address? Or just like a general send Bitcoins?
After I send my BTCs to ethereum fundraising BTC address, how to check my ether balance?
Will I get the ether as soon as I send BTC to the ethereum fundraising address?
Any idea about this?
If ethereum could do something like Counterparty/XCP did, it would be better, like investors can get and check their XCP balance as soon as they burned their BTCs. If not, this should be a centralized IPO.
Also posted this on ethereum forum: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/271/when-and-how-ethereum-will-be-fundraising?new=1
how is going tests?
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while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.
It's turing and we had to delay the IPO because we were offered too much money. If that's failure, then I like to fail We are still waiting to see Ethereum working. Until now it is indeed fantasy.
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while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.
It's turing and we had to delay the IPO because we were offered too much money. If that's failure, then I like to fail
Mastercoin to rule them all.
Mastercoin is amateur hour compared to what these folks have planned.
Right. Ethereum is to Mastercoin what Peercoin is to Bitcoin. 1st mover advantage will be huge.
Also, Charles said at the Miami conference Ethereum will only be traded on the open market Q3 or Q4 (autumn-winter of 2014) so those buying into this IPO for a quick flip have no idea what they're getting into and will be locked in from trading for quite a while.
Ethereum, Mastercoin, Open Transactions, even Ripple are going to partner or work closely to build inter-functionality. The community is becoming more cooperative than competitive. There will be quite a few winners.
Did you watch that video? Got to love the tension there between Charles and the Invictus dude. Just watch Charles' reactions when Invictus dude talks. It's clear as daylight they have eachother's guts. And they've put the MSC guy between them to separate the two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9miCOsg4g#t=1541
Also notice that "touring complete" part", when Charles gets pissed at the Invictus dude talking about Turing complete as being part of his project also.
These guys hate each other, make no mistake about it. They were just playing nice for the camera. You're naive if you believe otherwise. They were just playing into the narrative, that's all.
This guy is weird, he's body language is irritating, he does not have a clear understanding what he himself is talking about, even the host asked him wtf are you trying to communicate?.
The guy from master coin from the other hand seems to be legit, understanding and coherent. I think that he also has some wishful thinking about the length to which the bitcoin core developers will go in order to expand the functionality he really wants. While it will be expanded, but not to a degree that he wants, because they will not risk an already established system with radical changes.
I think Charles put a great interview, clearly communicating about ethereum and earning him some positive points along the way.
Mastercoin doesn't need to wait for Bitcoin to do changes. It just uses the Bitcoin protocol for distribution. That's all. It is a safe and pretty secure network, which is why it's worth using versus starting a fresh one.
Charles did his own marketing attempts trying to push this Vitalik as uber genius geek narrative (which he may or may not be. some said he's really clueless on financial side and that might impact way he sees the design of the system in a negative way). The Invictus guy seemed bit weasel like, but he is smart and creative. Their distribution model with angel shares and such was pretty creative, though I wouldn't bet on them. Keep in mind though Charles split from Invictus, so Charles did plenty of work to bring protoshares where it is now. He basically started fresh with Ethereum and needs to catch up a fucking LOT to both Mastercoin and Protoshares (invictus), but especially Mastercoin which now has functional decentralized exchange in beta stage, while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.
Mastercoin to rule them all.
Mastercoin is amateur hour compared to what these folks have planned.
Right. Ethereum is to Mastercoin what Peercoin is to Bitcoin. 1st mover advantage will be huge.
Also, Charles said at the Miami conference Ethereum will only be traded on the open market Q3 or Q4 (autumn-winter of 2014) so those buying into this IPO for a quick flip have no idea what they're getting into and will be locked in from trading for quite a while.
Ethereum, Mastercoin, Open Transactions, even Ripple are going to partner or work closely to build inter-functionality. The community is becoming more cooperative than competitive. There will be quite a few winners.
Did you watch that video? Got to love the tension there between Charles and the Invictus dude. Just watch Charles' reactions when Invictus dude talks. It's clear as daylight they have eachother's guts. And they've put the MSC guy between them to separate the two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9miCOsg4g#t=1541
Also notice that "touring complete" part", when Charles gets pissed at the Invictus dude talking about Turing complete as being part of his project also.
These guys hate each other, make no mistake about it. They were just playing nice for the camera. You're naive if you believe otherwise. They were just playing into the narrative, that's all.
This guy is weird, he's body language is irritating, he does not have a clear understanding what he himself is talking about, even the host asked him wtf are you trying to communicate?.
The guy from master coin from the other hand seems to be legit, understanding and coherent. I think that he also has some wishful thinking about the length to which the bitcoin core developers will go in order to expand the functionality he really wants. While it will be expanded, but not to a degree that he wants, because they will not risk an already established system with radical changes.
I think Charles put a great interview, clearly communicating about ethereum and earning him some positive points along the way.
Mastercoin to rule them all.
Mastercoin is amateur hour compared to what these folks have planned.
Right. Ethereum is to Mastercoin what Peercoin is to Bitcoin. 1st mover advantage will be huge.
Also, Charles said at the Miami conference Ethereum will only be traded on the open market Q3 or Q4 (autumn-winter of 2014) so those buying into this IPO for a quick flip have no idea what they're getting into and will be locked in from trading for quite a while.
Ethereum, Mastercoin, Open Transactions, even Ripple are going to partner or work closely to build inter-functionality. The community is becoming more cooperative than competitive. There will be quite a few winners.
Did you watch that video? Got to love the tension there between Charles and the Invictus dude. Just watch Charles' reactions when Invictus dude talks. It's clear as daylight they have eachother's guts. And they've put the MSC guy between them to separate the two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9miCOsg4g#t=1541
Also notice that "touring complete" part", when Charles gets pissed at the Invictus dude talking about Turing complete as being part of his project also.
These guys hate each other, make no mistake about it. They were just playing nice for the camera. You're naive if you believe otherwise. They were just playing into the narrative, that's all.
Pay attention that I did not mention Invictus!
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