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POS will boost Ether to over 1000USD.

5% Reward is more than great for just holding Ether. This will be the future, near 0 electricity.

I only have one question: When? How many times have the developers promised us an update? Not so long ago came next, already sixth in a row. But while the other five are not fulfilled. Now we are waiting for the summer of 2018. I love Ethereum, but we need more action than promises.

ETH Devs are basically famous for missing deadlines.

Back when ETH launched in late 2015, it was said that POS would launch sometime in Summer of 2016. And because of their promise, I've never upgraded to more efficient GPUs, which at the time were the AMD Nano/Fury's. And basically kept waiting and waiting for POS updates and from what I can tell its still a long ways away.

Another issue is that who knows how it will work in practise to compared to how they have it analyzed in theory. I hope that POS works out but like others have said before, it will make ETH centralized because there will be a small percentage of individuals who owns most of the coins.

What the muggles don't realize is how complex these things are. The sharding spec is certainly non-trivial. It's why there are literally a dozen or so different teams working on various implementations.
PoS isn't like throwing up some website code. It's unbroken ground. Even giving the date of 2016 - 2 years is not much time.

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Quote from: gambit1 on November 26, 2018, 09:28:31 AM

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POS will boost Ether to over 1000USD.

5% Reward is more than great for just holding Ether. This will be the future, near 0 electricity.

I only have one question: When? How many times have the developers promised us an update? Not so long ago came next, already sixth in a row. But while the other five are not fulfilled. Now we are waiting for the summer of 2018. I love Ethereum, but we need more action than promises.

ETH Devs are basically famous for missing deadlines.

Back when ETH launched in late 2015, it was said that POS would launch sometime in Summer of 2016. And because of their promise, I've never upgraded to more efficient GPUs, which at the time were the AMD Nano/Fury's. And basically kept waiting and waiting for POS updates and from what I can tell its still a long ways away.

Another issue is that who knows how it will work in practise to compared to how they have it analyzed in theory. I hope that POS works out but like others have said before, it will make ETH centralized because there will be a small percentage of individuals who owns most of the coins.

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ICO projects will sell our ETH Cry

ETH will die for that ... ETH will die for that Cry

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ETH is not an ideal coin now, but the best among the all

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Quote from: Icutgrass205 on November 14, 2018, 12:45:12 PM

Dont worry ethereum will go to the shitter soon just like all othe other worthless alts that are just copy, paste, and renamed from BTC. Idk why anyone invested in this shitcoin, you've all been duped by mr.copy and paste autism buterin

lol literally among the least of people and projects that mimic btc.
gtfo you silly btc maximalist. Roll Eyes

How is that ether scaleability going for you? Silly eth sheep, one good attack on the eth network and say bye bye to it, and all the shit utility tokens to go with it

How's the dev community going for you in those "scaled" chains?
lol silly sheep indeed.

P2P PoW electronic cash that scales on chain=BCHSV

Ethereum= Shitcoin that wants to be electronic cash but never will be, can't scale, no miner profitability, no future. Ask Mr. Copy and Paste Buterin how the development for ether is going hahahahah

You clearly don't even know what Eth is...cuz it sure as shit isn't meant to be "electronic cash" (hint, it's called gas for a reason).
Go educate yourself before trying to fud. Maybe you'll at least make sense then. Cheesy

Let me break it down simply for the layman such as yourself, if bitcoin can do everything that ethereum can do as stated in the white paper, for cheaper, faster, and on a more secure network, then what is the point of ether? You got bamboozled by mr. copy and paste i wanna make a quick buck buterin. He's too busy dabbling with coke and hookers to give a shit about his dead coin

lol but it can't. In fact, it wasn't built to do so, especially at the protocol level. I'm a software engineer. I'm coming from a place of (relative) understanding of these repos.

#tryagain

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I hope ETH evolves and adapts rather than just dies

Hopefully it will, I think you can safely bet on it!

Give it some time it should recover because ETH is far too big to fail

YEah its far from failing, I don't see any reason for it to fall. Even without those ICOs it is a stand alone project that aims to get into PoS.

Just like other coins when they have some plenty of good news, they are rising so this is also applicable to ETH. It was dumped that much, yes that's true but this is all due to the bear market and no coin can evade that thing.

Quote from: zidane on November 26, 2018, 07:40:23 AM

POS will boost Ether to over 1000USD.

5% Reward is more than great for just holding Ether. This will be the future, near 0 electricity.

Waiting for it.

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Quote from: alevlaslo on November 26, 2018, 12:36:24 PM

drawdown without negative news as in ' 14, and what happens if Mt.Goks will to sell BTC? Or Craig Wright with Jihan Wu will continue sell the BTC to pump ABC and SV? On this news ETH and LTC just have to the Moon

I think BCH-ABC and BCH-SV will destroy each other and no matter what Ver and Wu or Wright do it will make difference to the overall eventuality that Bitcoin remains king.

Both Ver and Wu are getting what they deserve and I have no sympathy for them after what they did trying to destroy Bitcoin. I have no time for Wright either but am happy the three of them can waste each others time during the battle for BCH-ABD/BCH-SV which for a few months at least would allow them to leave Bitcoin alone.

How that BCH-ABD/BCH-SV battle affects the rest of the crypto market (especially ETH) remains to be seen.

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the ETH has the best wallet for cold storage, you do not need to attach anything to the network machine, the signature is scanned by the phone and sent from it https://myetherwallet.github.io/knowledge-base/offline/running-myetherwallet-locally.html

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Quote from: poer on November 26, 2018, 07:40:53 AM

ETH IS DEAD

You should write this in more bigger words and put some colors in it too but it won't happen as per your wish. This is still most loved coin than this kind of posts are comes only from losers who miss the chance to catch this train on tie and still dreaming to get this again at low price.

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Quote from: ninobtcx on November 26, 2018, 01:33:18 AM

If you really wanna bet on ethereum, consider instead legit projects without ethereum's rubbish, such as ARK (today +10% and set to grow until end of week)
or ETC

dPoS is bad, without PoW it is impossible, decentralization is lost in ARK, XRP, XLM, EOS, NEO, TRX and same other

and ETC is vulnerable to attack 51 of Nicehash crypto51.app

What's so special to PoW? Even Ethereum wants to fork away from it. PoW is asking for a lot (initial hardware cost, energy cost, environmental cost, risky ROI which depends on future products) and offers little in return (safer network if it's a top 10 coin). As you said, a coin with PoW which is not very high in price will be left vulnerable to attacks, like ETC.

So far ARK is doing fine with its decentralization, I don't know what are you talking about.
As for XRP, it's not dPoS, there are many validators and they're growing! Among the validators are Ripple (ofcourse), University of Nicosia, Berkeley University of California, some exchanges or at least one I can see in the list and many more... full list here: https://xrpcharts.ripple.com/#/validators

For XLM, EOS, NEO and TRX, I have not researched it and cannot discuss it.

EOS froze the coins of one of the bloggers with suspicion of questionable origin. So what can be done on any coin with no PoW

and if they impose sanctions and freeze all the money of the russians? I am a resident of Moscow and would not want to lose money. I do not want to switch to the Waves or Chinese NEO

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drawdown without negative news as in ' 14, and what happens if Mt.Goks will to sell BTC? Or Craig Wright with Jihan Wu will continue sell the BTC to pump ABC and SV? On this news ETH and LTC just have to the Moon

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Quote from: gambit1 on November 26, 2018, 09:28:31 AM

I only have one question: When? How many times have the developers promised us an update? Not so long ago came next, already sixth in a row. But while the other five are not fulfilled. Now we are waiting for the summer of 2018. I love Ethereum, but we need more action than promises.

Well I hope the devs sort out their issues and keep a good hold on a way forward with updates and upgrades to remain relevant

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Quote from: lembang on November 26, 2018, 08:29:12 AM

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Quote from: poer on November 26, 2018, 07:40:53 AM

ETH IS DEAD

A huge statement from you... I hope ETH evolves and adapts rather than just dies

I think that if it's dead it's not possible because this amazingly good platform is now just a little problem, maybe in the beginning of the year it will be under control as the bitcoin price rises too, so we just need patience to wait for market prices to improve again

Early in the year will bitcoin rise? Have you seen the chart at the end of this month until early next year? I think you need cigarettes and coffee to see it with focus.

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POS will boost Ether to over 1000USD.

5% Reward is more than great for just holding Ether. This will be the future, near 0 electricity.

I only have one question: When? How many times have the developers promised us an update? Not so long ago came next, already sixth in a row. But while the other five are not fulfilled. Now we are waiting for the summer of 2018. I love Ethereum, but we need more action than promises.

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Quote from: JollyGood on November 26, 2018, 07:45:58 AM

Quote from: poer on November 26, 2018, 07:40:53 AM

ETH IS DEAD

A huge statement from you... I hope ETH evolves and adapts rather than just dies

I think that if it's dead it's not possible because this amazingly good platform is now just a little problem, maybe in the beginning of the year it will be under control as the bitcoin price rises too, so we just need patience to wait for market prices to improve again

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It is bargaining at around $100 who ignorant people are those believe that Ethereum has done and will not make come back. There is pressure from ICO's and other factors which dragged the big markets slightly more down than smaller ones. If pumping price is manipulation then pressing markets this badly is bigger manipulation. Every good market will not only recover but also will make new all time highs.

more fall does not mean that the coin is bad, remember how LTC fell -x50 in 2014. It fell more because previously grew stronger. It will growing stronger again. Look at the long-term trend, the LTC does not fall of bitcoin, and the ETH even grows

yes you might be right, but you need to know ETH and LTC are very different. so we cannot fully believe that. although I still believe eth will grow, but before that happens there is still a possibility that the price of ethereum can be more severe than at present.

i think eth will grow but now the price of ETH is insanely cheap
also this is not happening with eth only its all over the market everything is falling for now
but i think after this downtrend period market will rise again
eth price touch 104$ lowest price of this year and now the price is 114$ its going up again

I think lowest price of Ethereum was $101 and i was wrong that Ethereum will be more weak and break the $100 support.
But Ethereum price rose 3.14% today and hope so price will rise more next weak, anyway no doubt ETH price is very cheap right now! Let's see. Grin