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Topic: [ANN] FEDORAGOLD - Tip and purchase anywhere with the Fedora Gold FED coin - page 4. (Read 2075 times)

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Hello all,

Given the recent days, here is a summary of our situation:

As you are probably aware, the Fedora Project is currently running a bounty program, in order to grow our community. We have always stated that we are devs first and foremost - we are NOT marketers!

So for the last one and a half years we did no marketing of any kind and focused entirely on dev until very recently.

We engaged Tokensuite to run our bounty, based on word of mouth reference. So far the people of Tokensuite have demonstrated to us that they are professional and decent.

This week we discovered on BTCTalk that there are some people who apparently do not like Tokensuite (you may have seen the posts). The primary reason appears to be historic but it far predates our knowledge of, or engagement with Tokensuite. So there is a lot of posting of negative content. There are also unreasonable demands of the Fedora Project team, such that we reveal our personal & private details.

Privacy concerns are central to the world of crypto, as the members of this community are aware. All people enjoy a right to privacy, we would never demand anybody reveal personal data.

I point out that none of the people attacking us are doing so publicly - ALL of them use an alias. Apparently it is a case of: "Do as I say but not as I do".

The information that we did provide is the standard and detailed information that all quality projects share - the details of our Github repos, our plans and the technical details of our team to illustrate our competence.

Furthermore - the people attacking us are suggesting that we are running a scam. Some facts:

- We are NOT running an ICO
- We NEVER ask people to invest in Fedora Gold
- We DO NOT provide financial advice
- We never say "buy/sell"

What we have done, which you can see from the long history in our social channels is:

- Rebuild the TIPS wallets and upgrade TIPS security
- Develop a strategy for FED Gold when it was obvious Tips is a end of life
- Work full time, with a team of nearly 10, for one and half years. NO pay. NO investment. NO returns

We also created all of these Fedora Project communities for people to come together, talk, share information, and, yes, attack us when they feel like it.

In a few weeks our bounty program will be complete and the bounty rewards will be distributed as we promised. Perhaps reserve judgement until we have broken a promise.

Kind Regards,
Robots.
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Nice one, though I think you made this post in the wrong part of the forum and you might not get the appropriate reply you are looking for from this part of the forum since the members here are just cared about discussion about an altcoin and don't really care about new project about to be launched, so the best thing for you to do in order to get the engagement you desire is to move this topic to the altcoin announcement section of the forum.

Hi Kiweikoo,

Thank you very much, I appreciate that! Yes you are right we did go to the wrong part of BTCtalk! We should move but I was concerned about bothering the community too much. But I think you're right though, we should probably move this to the correct location!  Cheesy

Best regards,
Robots.
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Nice one, though I think you made this post in the wrong part of the forum and you might not get the appropriate reply you are looking for from this part of the forum since the members here are just cared about discussion about an altcoin and don't really care about new project about to be launched, so the best thing for you to do in order to get the engagement you desire is to move this topic to the altcoin announcement section of the forum.
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But maybe YOU are right ... Now there are so many scammers.
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They are not my friends.
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Hello, we asked you before about your team, but you all are giving us just vague answers.  Can you please be more direct.

Does your team have a professional profile/bio? such as linkedin ? share links please.

Hi ICOEthics,
~
...You asked about the team and I provided a summary of all of our technical backgrounds.  As you are no doubt aware - given that you yourself maintain your privacy - the crypto space is inherently private and there is nothing at all untoward about our own team maintaining a similar right to privacy.

We have provided openness and transparency where it is important -
~

As you wrote, we asked for a link and not a summary background of your team. Whatever you wrote could be just a made up story/summary of your " team" members. How do we even know that there is a team? Maybe just one person operation?

If you don't want to provide links/profile of your team, there is NO transparency. As you said you provide transparency when it is important. One of the most important facts about any project is team authenticity. And in this case of this project, you are denying to provide info about them.

Also just to remind you that ICOEthics is not selling anything and for this reason, we don't have a necessity to expose ourselves to scammers and criminals.

But your project,  on the other hand, asking for money for investors and at the same time hiding your team information(face/profile) - investors will stay away from shady projects like this.
NO Transparency!!!


As for suggestions that we are in some way untoward because we have not shared our personal linkedin profiles, well I must reject that entirely. Apart from our right to privacy, if we were behaving as you suggest then it would be a relatively trivial matter to create a set of fake linkedin profiles. I am sure that you have seen the kind of thing I refer to - and in fact some fake profiles can as you know be very convincing. In fact, fake profiles seem to be the very first thing that dubious operations like to implement!!
This combined with the fact that you're already working with the Tokensuite/Bountysuite scams is shady enough.

Original link to their project. promoted by a well known scam artist and refuse to divulge verifiable info to prove that project is not a scam.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-fedoragold-tip-and-purchase-anywhere-with-the-fedora-gold-fed-coin-5131577


After so many scams promoted by Tokensuite/Bountysuite, people/investors are learning to stay away from anything that those companies touch. Having this project being promoted by them and on top of that, you are hiding your team information, this is not a good way to start, but its a very good way to tell everyone to stay away from your project.


Actually, now it is yourself who is attempting to twist what we are saying to suit your own agenda.

And as I mentioned above - we NEVER ask anybody to buy, sell or invest in Fed

Agenda?  Which agenda ?  The only one here with an agenda appears to be you - take money from investors without revealing your team identity. Maybe take the money and run?Huh



Do not drive here flood !!! Get out of here bad people! The project is developing. And this is not a scam !!! You are just competitors from TIPS mining! Get away from here! Buy FED !!!

Do you have any evidence of that? otherwise dont write bs just to protect your friends because we take defamation very serious.
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So is TIPS official dead now?   Huh
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"

Do not drive here flood !!! Get out of here bad people! The project is developing. And this is not a scam !!! You are just competitors from TIPS mining! Get away from here! Buy FED !!!

Yes ICOethics and the numerous high ranking accounts asking for verifiable info on this thread and their former thread are just competitors from tip mining smfh. Again, please provide verifiable info, emphasis on verifiable. Anyone, can easily claim anything in writing.
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Actually, now it is yourself who is attempting to twist what we are saying to suit your own agenda.

And as I mentioned above - we NEVER ask anybody to buy, sell or invest in Fed
sr. member
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Hello, we asked you before about your team, but you all are giving us just vague answers.  Can you please be more direct.

Does your team have a professional profile/bio? such as linkedin ? share links please.

Hi ICOEthics,
~
...You asked about the team and I provided a summary of all of our technical backgrounds.  As you are no doubt aware - given that you yourself maintain your privacy - the crypto space is inherently private and there is nothing at all untoward about our own team maintaining a similar right to privacy.

We have provided openness and transparency where it is important -
~

As you wrote, we asked for a link and not a summary background of your team. Whatever you wrote could be just a made up story/summary of your " team" members. How do we even know that there is a team? Maybe just one person operation?

If you don't want to provide links/profile of your team, there is NO transparency. As you said you provide transparency when it is important. One of the most important facts about any project is team authenticity. And in this case of this project, you are denying to provide info about them.

Also just to remind you that ICOEthics is not selling anything and for this reason, we don't have a necessity to expose ourselves to scammers and criminals.

But your project,  on the other hand, asking for money for investors and at the same time hiding your team information(face/profile) - investors will stay away from shady projects like this.
NO Transparency!!!


As for suggestions that we are in some way untoward because we have not shared our personal linkedin profiles, well I must reject that entirely. Apart from our right to privacy, if we were behaving as you suggest then it would be a relatively trivial matter to create a set of fake linkedin profiles. I am sure that you have seen the kind of thing I refer to - and in fact some fake profiles can as you know be very convincing. In fact, fake profiles seem to be the very first thing that dubious operations like to implement!!
This combined with the fact that you're already working with the Tokensuite/Bountysuite scams is shady enough.

Original link to their project. promoted by a well known scam artist and refuse to divulge verifiable info to prove that project is not a scam.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-fedoragold-tip-and-purchase-anywhere-with-the-fedora-gold-fed-coin-5131577


After so many scams promoted by Tokensuite/Bountysuite, people/investors are learning to stay away from anything that those companies touch. Having this project being promoted by them and on top of that, you are hiding your team information, this is not a good way to start, but its a very good way to tell everyone to stay away from your project.





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I see this coin has a great future. This week will end on Coinexchange auto swap TIPS> FED. And immediately there will be a listing on Coinexchange. I bought a week ago on the Altilly Exchange 5,800,000 FED coins. Buy FED at Altilly, the price is very low. Then you buy FED, but at a high price.    https://www.altilly.com/market/FED_BTC Buy! Buy! Buy!

Hi Geterod,

Thank you very much for your kind words and sentiment regarding the Fedora Project! It's really appreciated  Cheesy.

I would like to stress publicly however that it is the official policy of the Fedora Project to NEVER recommend buying (or selling) FED coin. We do not provide financial advice and we never recommend trading. Please do your own analysis and reach your own conclusions.

Kind Regards,
Robots.
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I see this coin has a great future. This week will end on Coinexchange auto swap TIPS> FED. And immediately there will be a listing on Coinexchange. I bought a week ago on the Altilly Exchange 5,800,000 FED coins. Buy FED at Altilly, the price is very low. Then you buy FED, but at a high price.    https://www.altilly.com/market/FED_BTC Buy! Buy! Buy!
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Hi Lauda,

Thanks for your thoughts.  It's quite clear that you are extremely experienced in this space and have a long history in crypto, so I would not denigrate your knowledge in this space..

It's also apparent that you are also happy to maintain your privacy - a quick study of your BTCtalk page at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190 reveals no personal details of yourself or any of your team. 

Am I perhaps missing something here? I'm sorry if I am - but it appears that there are different standards at play.

Kind Regards,
Robots.
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Terminated.
As for suggestions that we are in some way untoward because we have not shared our personal linkedin profiles, well I must reject that entirely. Apart from our right to privacy, if we were behaving as you suggest then it would be a relatively trivial matter to create a set of fake linkedin profiles. I am sure that you have seen the kind of thing I refer to - and in fact some fake profiles can as you know be very convincing. In fact, fake profiles seem to be the very first thing that dubious operations like to implement!!
This combined with the fact that you're already working with the Tokensuite/Bountysuite scams is shady enough.
member
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Hello, we asked you before about your team, but you all are giving us just vague answers.  Can you please be more direct.

Does your team have a professional profile/bio? such as linkedin ? share links please.

Hi ICOEthics,

Thanks again for your input. I must say that I disagree with you however, and that I have not been at all vague in my responses. You asked about the team and I provided a summary of all of our technical backgrounds.  As you are no doubt aware - given that you yourself maintain your privacy - the crypto space is inherently private and there is nothing at all untoward about our own team maintaining a similar right to privacy.

We have provided openness and transparency where it is important - in all of our communications, our openness, our social channels and most of all in our source code. I shared links so that you could continue the discussion in this ANN. Once again here is a link to our primary wallet repo: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50831559

I urge you to study all of our Tech Lead Jojapoppa's GitHub repos for the Fedora Project. You will find a large collection of fully open source repos dating back to well over a year (just for our own work) that illustrates several key things, such as:
  - a commitment to continuous development
  - dedication to high quality, open source code
  - significant improvements upon all of the repos that we forked for the Fedora project

For instance - the Fedora Tips wallet that we rebuilt at the start of our project had not been touched for several years before we came along. The first thing we did was a major program of security patches, updates and hardening before releasing to the community.

As for suggestions that we are in some way untoward because we have not shared our personal linkedin profiles, well I must reject that entirely. Apart from our right to privacy, if we were behaving as you suggest then it would be a relatively trivial matter to create a set of fake linkedin profiles. I am sure that you have seen the kind of thing I refer to - and in fact some fake profiles can as you know be very convincing. In fact, fake profiles seem to be the very first thing that dubious operations like to implement!!

Now if you would like to know a little more about my background then of course I could discuss at length my 25+ year career in IT.  A lot of the discussion would nonetheless but quite dull sadly! I could talk about my university days when I studied systems programming on old school c/unix, or how I learnt GUI development coding in C++ on X-Windows Solaris workstations before businesses in the commercial world even used a GUI interface on their green screen terminals.

I could tediously drone on and on about engineering at banks with c on OS/2 back when IBM dreamed of being relevant to small scale computers, or teaching my teams about OO development in the 90's, or my time as a technical architect and analyst after I became a team lead. I could go into the intricate (and extremely dull) nuances of the last 15 years of my career as a software dev project manager, wrangling teams of coders to build the solutions to a problem that a customer was unable to articulate.  In fact, most of the platforms that I have coded on no longer exist as they have been superseded by newer technology.

Does any of that make us more real as people? I know I'm sincerely boring myself as I recount the past!!  Cheesy

But please - continue the discussion and keep firing questions at us. It's only through that dialogue that we can share and improve.

Cheers,
Robots.
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No swap in the promised time did not happen. It did not happen in the following days. Is that a scam?
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Hi ICOEthics, happy to!

Here is a summary of the team - some of us work publicly but most privately.
~ ...
Cheers,
Robots.

Is there a link to read about the team members profile/bio? such as linkedin


Hello, we asked you before about your team, but you all are giving us just vague answers.  Can you please be more direct.

Does your team have a professional profile/bio? such as linkedin ? share links please.
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Will Fedoragold ever implement a debit/prepaid card?
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