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Topic: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Proof Of Transaction Cash Back for Sending & Recieving - page 276. (Read 368097 times)

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Now my coins at Bitember are back in balance........WTF is happening guys?
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Is the information for what the network mH/s was for a block stored somewhere?  I'd love to look at the difficulty and time to calculate a block versus the average/min/max network mH/s for a block.  If we could gather this data (and maybe you already have), we could perhaps eliminate that it is due to any kind of block difficulty readjustment.  It'd also be nice to compare those numbers against the blocks that the pools supposedly got "stuck" on.
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where can i get your coins?
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i think we have to consider that kidcoin was right all along, it might just be a simple pool issue. the problems didn't start until the sharp increase in hashrate
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maybe we should message them and let them know people are being disgruntled about their pool service because of the hash issue. might be enough reason for them to pause it for a day.
I mean maybe I'm insane, but my only theory is that they, with most of the hashrate get stuck for whatever reason (its there difficulty adjusted on these pools??), maybe a miner exploiting stratum, maybe a config issue, and because they usually find the most blocks, they essentially halt the network as no one else has the hashrate or luck to find blocks.

Everything needs to be vetted at this point.

I still believe this to be an incorrect approach to start at the pools. Why? I'm no programmer, but logic tells me that pools (in general) are tried and tested when it comes to scrypt coins. They behave as expected and are using software for the pools that (at this point) has been pretty well vetted. I believe the stalling on the pools when the hashrate spikes is a symptom.

We presume you used a "proven" coin for the foundation of FLT. Hopefully a coin that was (at least at one point) heavily mined. If so, you should check the forums for any similar issues the coin might have had.

If there are none that are similar, you have to look at your code and what you've added to it. To me, this is the most obvious starting point because again, pools & mining are pretty well tested and this isn't some weird DDOS to stall out the coin, no one is getting coins when it's stuck.

Again, I don't even know if what i'd propose is plausible, but if this was my project team and they were stuck i'd start trying to troubleshoot with big, broad strokes.

- Go into the coin, "turn off" the POB stuff altogether (if possible), release a patch, see if it gets stuck
- If same thing happens, do the same with the POS stuff, release patch, see if it gets stuck

I just don't see how you're not starting at what you've added to the coin as the potential problem.

You said it yourself - your not a programmer.  You don't realease patches to test things number 1, number 2 POB has no bearing - it's not even considered until a block is mined, POS will not be active for weeks.  Pools kill coins all the time.  If these things were the issue we would have seen it before.

The base for this coin as you say is NVC and PPC.

I find it hard to believe how people find it OK that a pool had 50% of the hashrate.


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Which pool is the best please?

Bitember.
There is also no real risk of 50% attack, since bitember only has 30% of the hashrate. Some chinese pools are holding over 1.5GH, but no idea which ones.
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If you are all jumping on Bitember because it's the "biggest" I suggest you look at a pools "Blocks" menu item. If you compare them, you'll see that proportionally you're getting the same amount if you were mining on Cloudminers. Please spread the hash out.



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We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.

Bitember has display issues, my coins didn't update yet. I'm sure it's just frontend issue and will get resolved also.
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If you are all jumping on Bitember because it's the "biggest" I suggest you look at a pools "Blocks" menu item. If you compare them, you'll see that proportionally you're getting the same amount if you were mining on Cloudminers. Please spread the hash out.

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Which pool is the best please?
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I think it's also in your best interest (and the coin's) to reach out to some other developers for help. I PM'ed you the names of the 2 guys who helped rescue GPU coin. I had chatted with them in IRC during that launch and they were super mellow, they might be willing to help. But lots of coin devs are on IRC, i think as the developer you should reach out if you're stuck.



Already been reaching out...
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I think it's also in your best interest (and the coin's) to reach out to some other developers for help. I PM'ed you the names of the 2 guys who helped rescue GPU coin. I had chatted with them in IRC during that launch and they were super mellow, they might be willing to help. But lots of coin devs are on IRC, i think as the developer you should reach out if you're stuck.

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oke, I left bitember and joined cloudminers Smiley
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maybe we should message them and let them know people are being disgruntled about their pool service because of the hash issue. might be enough reason for them to pause it for a day.
I mean maybe I'm insane, but my only theory is that they, with most of the hashrate get stuck for whatever reason (its there difficulty adjusted on these pools??), maybe a miner exploiting stratum, maybe a config issue, and because they usually find the most blocks, they essentially halt the network as no one else has the hashrate or luck to find blocks.

Everything needs to be vetted at this point.

I still believe this to be an incorrect approach to start at the pools. Why? I'm no programmer, but logic tells me that pools (in general) are tried and tested when it comes to scrypt coins. They behave as expected and are using software for the pools that (at this point) has been pretty well vetted. I believe the stalling on the pools when the hashrate spikes is a symptom.

We presume you used a "proven" coin for the foundation of FLT. Hopefully a coin that was (at least at one point) heavily mined. If so, you should check the forums for any similar issues the coin might have had.

If there are none that are similar, you have to look at your code and what you've added to it. To me, this is the most obvious starting point because again, pools & mining are pretty well tested and this isn't some weird DDOS to stall out the coin, no one is getting coins when it's stuck.

Again, I don't even know if what i'd propose is plausible, but if this was my project team and they were stuck i'd start trying to troubleshoot with big, broad strokes.

- Go into the coin, "turn off" the POB stuff altogether (if possible), release a patch, see if it gets stuck
- If same thing happens, do the same with the POS stuff, release patch, see if it gets stuck

I just don't see how you're not starting at what you've added to the coin as the potential problem.
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What a bullshit. Coins keep on disappearing! Since my last post I had 3xx coins, now 1,5hr later I got only 10 extra coins and blocks are being found!

All leave Bitember pls!

ugh bitember! they are just too popular. hopefully as hash increases overall, people will even the rate out across pools
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Proof-Of-Stak

Anyone got any staked coins? I've seen this feature on other coins yet never experienced it. Might be the unicorn of cryptocoins!

hey! you didn't even ask about proof of block! that's really what's unique about this coin
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morning kidcoin. i've been keeping the night watch lol. lots of blocks mined, not quite 1200 tho. but u were right about the pace of blocks picking up

should only be 720 blocks mined per day...

oh i know, i was just goofin. no way we could find that many in just 8 hours or so.
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What a bullshit. Coins keep on disappearing! Since my last post I had 3xx coins, now 1,5hr later I got only 10 extra coins and blocks are being found!

All leave Bitember pls!
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Merit: 250
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Proof-Of-Stak

Anyone got any staked coins? I've seen this feature on other coins yet never experienced it. Might be the unicorn of cryptocoins!
i like proof-of-steak personally
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