Topic: [ANN] GAS Coin is dead and this is how r3wt scammed us and destroyed the coin (Read 2901 times)

c'mon spots. i paid you my .2 back. you still mad?

Scam tag his ass

I don't even know how to code and manage a cryptocurrency.

Also, if iGotSpots, LLC is a legal business, then how the hell could I be him? I'm not an adult...

BTW, this isn't PHP, no need to put // before your comments.

hmm, the blatantly slanted view of your argument gives you away. funny how he can accuse me but i raise a flag about him its "time out that's no fair, r3wt stop being a dumbass."

iGotSpots=GasCoin=LotteryTickets //all the same person; probably DiamondCardz too

Okay, people, quiet.

Yeah, we get it, iGotSpots, LLC is a way for Pfeff to make money. That's true. That doesn't mean you should bitch around calling it a pump and dump, if you're going to insult each other, then at least have a serious basis for it.

Figure your shit out in PM for now, because all you're doing is throwing insults and this "scam accusation" means jack. Also, this is a GAS Coin accusation thread. Not iGotSpots. Figure it out.

Also, r3wt, stop being a dumbass.

you're mad because i'm calling you out on your obvious pump and dump scam coins before you can profit.everyone knows your the lottery ticket dev. the fact that you try to disquise it makes you a scammer yourself.

further more, i never scammed you, we never signed a contract. you paid me for a service i provided you a product. you rejected the product because of a minor premine. whatever i don't care, i'm not reimbursing you the money. get over it.

you asked me to keep my mouth shut about tix, but i can't do that. you're taking advantage of people by flashmining the coins you make, hyping them then dumping them on the exchange. not a single coin by you has been a truly fair release, you've had the unfair advantage every time, so please get off your moral crusades and join us in reality, little child.

I would like to re-open this scam accusation for GAS Coin due to recent events. Just look at this fucking idiot's trust ratings...ban him and his 50 alternate accounts, already. Stop letting the scum of the earth steal from innocent people

So worthless coin is more worthless? Did anyone actually care about this coin than the ops?

Don't forget this comment r3wt made in the other post:

Isn't that very clear he didn't want any premine by anyone at all. If you ask him do he want premine, he replies no.. you go and premine yourself, then... Wtf?

It's not enough to be a scam really. But that was so stupid and childish thing to do, admit it.


P.S. did someone delete some posts?? =I nvm

bullshit. i agreed to make the coin, i asked if he wanted a premine. there was never an agreement made that there wouldn't be a premine, i asked him if he wanted one.

Of course I have been watching the entire thing since it was in Alt Currencies. First off, Staff cannot give scammer tags, it has to be an admin just to clarify. Second, in order for r3wt to get the scammer tag there has to be a few things. (I'm sure I'm missing all sorts of criteria and conditions and such, but I'll make it short and sweet)

1) Loss of value/property etc, so yeah by ruining the coin which he was paid .4 BTC to make, I suppose there was a loss of value
2) No attempt at remedying the situation.


r3wt did admit their wrong here, and it looks like once you two are done with the hurt feelings and flinging mud, you can probably work something out. I would try that before going for the scammer tag, it would save a whole lot of time for both and you could settle it. Also a "SCAMMER" in red letters next to someones name doesn't really get your BTC/Coin back, so its best to try and work something out first. If r3wt isn't willing to negotiate something, you would probably have more grounds for the scammer tag, but of course all of the evidence hasn't been piled yet, so maybe or maybe not.

TLDR: I would advise skipping the hours of compiling information to build your cases and going back and forth at each other, and try to work out a deal, *Cough cough* perhaps wiping the chain and starting fresh, refund, donating the premined coins to go to bounties, I'm sure you guys can figure something out.


Oh, and just as a P.S


No, moderators cannot check your PMs, Admins can access PMs, although if you want them to see them you will have to report them. I've seen this a few times, and just wanted to clear that up, so as much as I'd love to read your weekend plans that you set up with your buddies via PM, Moderators can't.

Arguing with him is dragging you both down.

By his own admission he agreed to a clean genesis and delivered it premined, enough said.

Forum staff, if this isn't a clear cut call for a scammer tag, what is?

Scamcoin wars.

Laughable indeed.

To sum up:
You did wrong by doing wrong
He did wrong by reacting too badly

So it is basically for everybody to decide by themselves how they feel about it. This disagreament does not proove anyone being scammer, and so as this is thread for moderators to decide and take people votes:

My vote: r3wt is not scammer, but he should somehow make it up for slipping and doing wrong thing

This is actually the first coin I tried to mine at it's launch, which makes me doubly pissed over your actions and your attitude about it.

"its not a large enough premine to matter. no one will say shit about it, trust me."

Gee, at July 27, 2013, 12:08:04 AM GAScoin said it went live, at July 27, 2013, 12:13:32 AM the premine was noticed and commented on.  Yeah, no one will care, TRUST YOU.

"nothing shady about a premine if you put it to good use. "

Front page of the lauch states in bold letter NO PREMINE.  Nah, nothing shady about premining a coin that advertises itself as no premine.

"we tried it on testnet(yeah, i had to hire testers, what am i supposed to split .4 btc four ways?) they wanted compensation and we took 25 k apiece. no shame in that."

Gee, I wanna be a tester for you, 25k coins eh?  Sounds like my kind of testing!  I'd love the chance to have the first dump at an exchange with 25k coins!  I've got 600 coins after 24 hours running the client, so 25k premine each for 4 people, wow, that's quite reasonable! NOT!

An honest person abides by rules, a dishonest person looks for loopholes and uses words like "You never said *I* couldn't premine it".  It's clear which category you fall into.

Wait wait wait, back up here a second. "One of"? "Our business plans"?

See here.

There's a reason noobs with no business plan and no technical skills are not supposed to start altcoins. And contrary to what you might imagine, "we'll hire some random guy off the internet to write our code for cheap" is NOT a business plan.

I've never known r3wt to scam anyone, and I have been doing business with him for months.

It sounds like you hired him to make you a product, for cheap mind you, and you're nit picky and boo-hooing over something that is out of his control, so now you bash him & are trying to get your money back.

The answer to the accusation of a negligible pre-mine is pretty obvious: He needed some help. You were cheap. So he found the funds to hire someone. Simple really.

ok, i was wrong to have done it without asking you're right. i just didn't want to admit that i would need some help getting the network ready. its also why i was late. we wanted the hashrate to be high enough to keep the coin from getting destroyed on launch. i still don't think it makes me a scammer for doing that though. i see where i was wrong, i just didn't want to admit it before, but to call me a scammer after i slaved all weekend to meet the deadline.

my whole issue was the way he turned on me and trashed me in the thread. thats very unproffesional.

Although I don't think you did it intentionally, if he asked for no premine, you shouldn't have done premine. Bounties and other things are his part to worry about as it is his coin.

How I see it - he asked for no premine - you agreed and received money - then you premined it (whatever intentions)
From that - thing is that it was his coin, you shouldn't have made decision to premine it to get additiona support for coin, it is his decision if he wants additional help or how he wants to pay for it.

Although yes maybe your intentions were good, but technically - you agreed on specific job, received money but did different job (again whatever reasons)

I don't know you, so I will not make assumptions, but this specific thing you did was wrong. We all do wrong sometimes, and often with good intentions, it still doesn't make it right. It was his coin so you should have asked him how he wants to handle things like help and premine.