Really interesting, must add a referral link to my Minera project
https://cryptonomos.com/?r=T0UpKufPvJ5Ob1sT6MA8irsS
Topic: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! - page 122. (Read 203299 times)
Nothing happened today too. And finally any official staffs did not appear here today. Still smells scam.
Says the guy who has -2 Trust on this forum
So what? I reported scamming regarding Genesis-Mining before, with which you can never reach ROI. Their staffs, the scammers of cloud-mining, gave me the thumbs down. Again so what? These two issues are completely unrelated. For me, it's too strange that a lot of newbies gave positive comments here. And of course, this Giga Watt staffs also did not refund us deposited BTC/ETH at all.
Nothing happened today too. And finally any official staffs did not appear here today. Still smells scam.
Says the guy who has -2 Trust on this forum
This is where I am a little held up. Granted I have already bought tokens. Cryptonoms has already provided one answer but I just don't know if it's enough for me.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
Mining equipment isn't cheap, and these tokens don't represent ownership of miners just the capacity to run the miners. It's a capital intensive business, so more capital they get the more they can grow. They have access to cheap electricity and talented team to keep miners running, that's their edge in this business and what they are selling. They are also mining for themselves as Gigawatt has been for many years. Seems they are now building out more space and makes more sense to share risks of mining (coin price, difficulty rise ect) while selling us what they do best, keep miners running as cost efficient as possible. I've read about Dave Carlson for many years and his mining operations so I wouldn't worry about being scammed. Mining industry is a cut throat industry but I believe these guys are the best in the business so I'm willing to invest. Before I decide on how much I want to know if I'll be able to sell tokens to access the capital in the future if needed or just rent them out.
Thanks for the input on this. As stated I have already invested and am a believer in the project. I just couldnt shake it in the back of my head!
This is where I am a little held up. Granted I have already bought tokens. Cryptonoms has already provided one answer but I just don't know if it's enough for me.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
Mining equipment isn't cheap, and these tokens don't represent ownership of miners just the capacity to run the miners. It's a capital intensive business, so more capital they get the more they can grow. They have access to cheap electricity and talented team to keep miners running, that's their edge in this business and what they are selling. They are also mining for themselves as Gigawatt has been for many years. Seems they are now building out more space and makes more sense to share risks of mining (coin price, difficulty rise ect) while selling us what they do best, keep miners running as cost efficient as possible. I've read about Dave Carlson for many years and his mining operations so I wouldn't worry about being scammed. Mining industry is a cut throat industry but I believe these guys are the best in the business so I'm willing to invest. Before I decide on how much I want to know if I'll be able to sell tokens to access the capital in the future if needed or just rent them out.
Apologies if this has been answered, I haven't read the entire thread but I have read the FAQ
Besides renting tokens will token holders ever have the ability to sell the tokens?
Thanks!
Besides renting tokens will token holders ever have the ability to sell the tokens?
Thanks!
This is where I am a little held up. Granted I have already bought tokens. Cryptonoms has already provided one answer but I just don't know if it's enough for me.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
If they had a magic tool that they could turn on and effectively mint money, they would. Which essentially they do. I just don't understand what the benefit is of selling us these magical money machines are unless 1) they think they will make more money off the sale of tokens/maintenance than they would mining themselves. Or 2) They are willing to forgo a speculative investment later for a immediate investment now. I guess there is 3) they are just really great people and want to share the wealth so to speak however that one tends to be hard to believe in mosts instances of capitalism.
I just cant help but wonder why they aren't just doing it themselves. I know the answer is "centralization" however they could SO easily get around that.
Hello...
Can anyone explain how this tokens work?
How do I pay or buy?
If I pay 500 euros, what benefits do I have in bitcoins?
How and when will I receive them?
How and where is the purse address wallet?
I need some hardware or software for this?
I do not understand anything...
I would appreciate an explanation for fools, because I do not understand anything ...
Thank you...
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Hola...
¿Alguien puede explicar como funciona esto de los tokens?
¿Como se paga o se compran?
¿Si pago 500 euros , que beneficios tengo en bitcoins?
¿Como y cuando los recibiré?
¿Como y donde se pone la direccion de monedero?
¿Necesito algún tipo de hardware o software para esto?
No entiendo nada...
Se agradeceria una explicacion para tontos ,por que no entiendo nada...
Gracias...
Can anyone explain how this tokens work?
How do I pay or buy?
If I pay 500 euros, what benefits do I have in bitcoins?
How and when will I receive them?
How and where is the purse address wallet?
I need some hardware or software for this?
I do not understand anything...
I would appreciate an explanation for fools, because I do not understand anything ...
Thank you...
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===================================================
Hola...
¿Alguien puede explicar como funciona esto de los tokens?
¿Como se paga o se compran?
¿Si pago 500 euros , que beneficios tengo en bitcoins?
¿Como y cuando los recibiré?
¿Como y donde se pone la direccion de monedero?
¿Necesito algún tipo de hardware o software para esto?
No entiendo nada...
Se agradeceria una explicacion para tontos ,por que no entiendo nada...
Gracias...
these token is only used to get discounted for maintanence fee when we purchase their product, not for buying hashing, am i right ?
You can withdraw via email on their website. There was an answer to withdrawal.
I did. But no response. That's why we claimed here.
Don't worry. You will get it back. I overpaid and got mine back.
I am still waiting for their response too.
Nothing happened today too. And finally any official staffs did not appear here today. Still smells scam.
I bought 100 tokens just to see where these goes. I have a question, as far as I understand these tokens serve as a discount for the hosting and electricity right? Are they absolutely needed to mine with you? Like do I need to buy a miner AND tokens to mine with you or are the tokens just something extra right now for early buyers that will benefit them later?
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This seems like a good project, however I have a question, is the mining calculator on your site legit or do we need to take into account other costs?
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
Calculator is taking into account current mining difficulty and current coin price. However, by the time you actually start to mine (late July or even September for some miners) the difficulty would rise but it's not certain if the coin's price would keep up. If you are looking at Panda Miners, keep in mind ETH is switching to PoS by the end of 2017 so you'd have to switch coin soon and from what I can see none of the coins have comparable returns with ETH atm. There's still risk involved here, but the risk-reward factor seems high enough. I only got 1 L3+ miner atm and it starts mining in September... hate to wait, but I hope LTC goes over $50 by then.
True, I am still doubting on purchasing some panda miners. However, ETC is not switching to POS soon and is almost equal in profitability. My only concern is that all hashing power now used for mining ETH will switch to ETC and will reduce profitability in mining ETC significantly. Is there a fixed date on which ETH will switch to POS?
Where can I find the amount of tokens sold? Would like to keep an eye on the sales and chip in some more when it is close to reaching its cap...
https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/ shows the stats of the crowdsale. As of now, 4,945,530 tokens have been sold at a rate of $1 per token.
This seems like a good project, however I have a question, is the mining calculator on your site legit or do we need to take into account other costs?
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
Calculator is taking into account current mining difficulty and current coin price. However, by the time you actually start to mine (late July or even September for some miners) the difficulty would rise but it's not certain if the coin's price would keep up. If you are looking at Panda Miners, keep in mind ETH is switching to PoS by the end of 2017 so you'd have to switch coin soon and from what I can see none of the coins have comparable returns with ETH atm. There's still risk involved here, but the risk-reward factor seems high enough. I only got 1 L3+ miner atm and it starts mining in September... hate to wait, but I hope LTC goes over $50 by then.
True, I am still doubting on purchasing some panda miners. However, ETC is not switching to POS soon and is almost equal in profitability. My only concern is that all hashing power now used for mining ETH will switch to ETC and will reduce profitability in mining ETC significantly. Is there a fixed date on which ETH will switch to POS?
Where can I find the amount of tokens sold? Would like to keep an eye on the sales and chip in some more when it is close to reaching its cap...
This seems like a good project, however I have a question, is the mining calculator on your site legit or do we need to take into account other costs?
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
Calculator is taking into account current mining difficulty and current coin price. However, by the time you actually start to mine (late July or even September for some miners) the difficulty would rise but it's not certain if the coin's price would keep up. If you are looking at Panda Miners, keep in mind ETH is switching to PoS by the end of 2017 so you'd have to switch coin soon and from what I can see none of the coins have comparable returns with ETH atm. There's still risk involved here, but the risk-reward factor seems high enough. I only got 1 L3+ miner atm and it starts mining in September... hate to wait, but I hope LTC goes over $50 by then.
This seems like a good project, however I have a question, is the mining calculator on your site legit or do we need to take into account other costs?
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
For example it says if I buy 20,000$ of mining equipment, I would be getting 123,000$ of yearly earnings? In two months I would be paying my initial investment? Is it this easy to make money or am I missing something? I am buying some tokens for investing but the mining returns seem to good to be true or is it normal with the ASIC chips?
Because if that's the case then I would get a loan or something to buy as many miners as possible....
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Hi Scorpion, I also signed up and purchased a bit of WTT tokens through your referral link. Project looks nice, best of luck to all the early investors.
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zerostake,
I want to express my deepest gratitude. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
You are welcome, happy to help out a fellow Crypto enthusiast whenever I can.
Free ghash to start or discount?
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