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LemonAndFriesOne

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Quote from: memberberry on January 13, 2017, 07:12:50 PM

Quote from: mr.coinzy on January 13, 2017, 06:08:30 PM

Definitely some infantile individuals have the tendency to provoke useless noise.
I still want to see the heat team keeping and maintaining constant founded communication with the community.
Too many bad vibes have been bounced around because of bad communication and doubts that consequently arise.

They hired a marketing guy FFS. Still there is no communication. Their last post on how they spent the ICO money revealed that
they wasted shitloads of money already. I wonder what for. Still only one dev working on it. The last coding activity by de Klerk is already a week old and was just changing two version numbers.
Before that nothing happened for weeks also. This is not what active development looks like. This is not how you create transparency. This is not how you revolutionize anything. This is not "crypto 3.0".

You must be an insider with a new account (created on January 11, 2017)? Who is the hired marketing guy ? lol

The development is on private repositories. As it has been, and put on github when released, just like the last two testnet wallet releases.

Ignore it, it's probably the same high school kid that put up his lunch money into this.

The kid is really bored because he keeps making new accounts.

memberberry

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Quote from: mr.coinzy on January 13, 2017, 06:08:30 PM

Definitely some infantile individuals have the tendency to provoke useless noise.
I still want to see the heat team keeping and maintaining constant founded communication with the community.
Too many bad vibes have been bounced around because of bad communication and doubts that consequently arise.

They hired a marketing guy FFS. Still there is no communication. Their last post on how they spent the ICO money revealed that
they wasted shitloads of money already. I wonder what for. Still only one dev working on it. The last coding activity by de Klerk is already a week old and was just changing two version numbers.
Before that nothing happened for weeks also. This is not what active development looks like. This is not how you create transparency. This is not how you revolutionize anything. This is not "crypto 3.0".

dynamixvolt

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Quote from: Ebrelus on January 13, 2017, 03:47:08 PM

This becomes silly. I just realised that i'm comming here more for getting free entertainment than to actually beeing up to date with the release.

Whining won't change anything for better or worse but feel free to still entertain ppl, you're hilarious... at least there's one plus from this storm Grin

HEAT is no joke. These who can't wait few days to aknowledge reality and always find new holes where there are none are the real joke here.

Silly, just silly. Like a little children.

They will find that this technology once proven that it works as stated it will be something really new that the crypto market will empathise. All the entrepreneurs fail out there ( maybe they failed with FIMK , I'm not sure but that is still being used and once the coin is still being used you can't call it a failure ) .
This is a new project maybe to develop with the mistakes that have been done in the past erased.

Just be patient hold your coins and hope for the best.

mr.coinzy

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Definitely some infantile individuals have the tendency to provoke useless noise.
I still want to see the heat team keeping and maintaining constant founded communication with the community.
Too many bad vibes have been bounced around because of bad communication and doubts that consequently arise.

LemonAndFriesOne

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Quote from: Ebrelus on January 13, 2017, 03:47:08 PM

This becomes silly. I just realised that i'm comming here more for getting free entertainment than to actually beeing up to date with the release.

Whining won't change anything for better or worse but feel free to still entertain ppl, you're hilarious... at least there's one plus from this storm Grin

HEAT is no joke. These who can't wait few days to aknowledge reality and always find new holes where there are none are the real joke here.

Silly, just silly. Like a little children.

Devs should refund the children and distribute their shares to the rest of us who have been waiting patiently.

Ebrelus

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This becomes silly. I just realised that i'm comming here more for getting free entertainment than to actually beeing up to date with the release.

Whining won't change anything for better or worse but feel free to still entertain ppl, you're hilarious... at least there's one plus from this storm Grin

HEAT is no joke. These who can't wait few days to aknowledge reality and always find new holes where there are none are the real joke here.

Silly, just silly. Like a little children.

JUSTDLISK

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Bancor

Quote from: Crapsy on January 13, 2017, 03:09:41 PM

Quote from: JUSTDLISK on January 13, 2017, 02:41:30 PM

its been two weeks FFS. Why is this still not out.

Mainnet launch is given a timeline from coming Sunday to Wednesday.

Ok i am going to give this one more week MAX.
TBH the C-Cex order book isn;t looking too bad. Close to my buy in.
The problem is liquidity.

Crapsy

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shoutofgaia

Quote from: JUSTDLISK on January 13, 2017, 02:41:30 PM

its been two weeks FFS. Why is this still not out.

Mainnet launch is given a timeline from coming Sunday to Wednesday.

JUSTDLISK

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Bancor

its been two weeks FFS. Why is this still not out.

To all C-cex investors, they still hold 150 btc 'Belongin' to HEAT.
I propose we contact C-CEX and try push for them to refund C-CEX Heat investors with these funds.
I just need to know - Does anyone know how much HEAT was issued on C-CEX?
How much would each C-CEX investor be entitled as a refund based on the 150 btc currently held by them.

I really did want to see this project succeed however these guys are taking the biscuit now.

StewieG

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Quote from: memberberry on January 13, 2017, 02:07:09 PM

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Quote from: memberberry on January 13, 2017, 08:12:00 AM

Okay okay, for all those guys here who really think that HEAT is legit and totally not a scam and "Crypto 3.0":
Why do you guys think they won't release the source code on launch?
Oh you rascals didn't see that right? Here is the link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17313176

I addressed the open source part back here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-heat-30-cryptomultisig-fiata2a-hft1000tpsdsapospope2ee-chat-1543991
In the link you provide, Eliphaz stated:

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The code is on company premises where development happens, and needs to be cleaned before being deployed to Github. Also the server code needs to be edited or mostly removed from the public release because we're not going open source at launch time because of the obvious hazards of losing IPR and competitive advantage just like that. Client and some important parts will be open sourced, however there hasn't been reason to do that yet as HEAT core development is ongoing.

Some pieces of the server code will not be open source *at launch time* (This reminds me of the NEM server based component, the NIS, which I linked below), and "Client and some important parts will be open sourced".

Like I said before: Even if some components are held as not open source upon launch, it does not mean that these components will be closed source forever, and it does not mean there is no chance for being added to any serious exchange or adoption anywhere.
I may remind, HEAT will have it's own decentralized crypto exchange built in, which is a serious exchange endeavour.
Even if that is the case for a temporary period to give a mover advantage on cloning innovations.

This can be seen I suppose by NEM (which has as of now ~ 31 million USD marketcap): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEM_(cryptocurrency)

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Although the NEM client is open source and available on github,[7] the NEM server based component, the NIS, is closed source and the binary is obfuscated to presumably prevent decompilers from revealing how it works."

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Well because there is no Blockchain, there is no HEAT, there is no "Crypto 3.0". All there might be is a RESTful API on their premises acting like your
clients are connecting to a peer-to-peer network.

I don't know where you get the idea that there is no Blockchain.

This is not about components, as those guys wrote it is about the server software. The whole thing. WTF?
There is no reason to not open source the code. Really none. Unless of course....

....

... it could reveal the whole scam.

SO how does it work? Is there ONE central server or what? I thought this would be decentralized?!!?!?! One server? So what if this server is offline?!

memberberry

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Quote from: memberberry on January 13, 2017, 08:12:00 AM

Okay okay, for all those guys here who really think that HEAT is legit and totally not a scam and "Crypto 3.0":
Why do you guys think they won't release the source code on launch?
Oh you rascals didn't see that right? Here is the link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17313176

I addressed the open source part back here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-heat-30-cryptomultisig-fiata2a-hft1000tpsdsapospope2ee-chat-1543991
In the link you provide, Eliphaz stated:

Quote

The code is on company premises where development happens, and needs to be cleaned before being deployed to Github. Also the server code needs to be edited or mostly removed from the public release because we're not going open source at launch time because of the obvious hazards of losing IPR and competitive advantage just like that. Client and some important parts will be open sourced, however there hasn't been reason to do that yet as HEAT core development is ongoing.

Some pieces of the server code will not be open source *at launch time* (This reminds me of the NEM server based component, the NIS, which I linked below), and "Client and some important parts will be open sourced".

Like I said before: Even if some components are held as not open source upon launch, it does not mean that these components will be closed source forever, and it does not mean there is no chance for being added to any serious exchange or adoption anywhere.
I may remind, HEAT will have it's own decentralized crypto exchange built in, which is a serious exchange endeavour.
Even if that is the case for a temporary period to give a mover advantage on cloning innovations.

This can be seen I suppose by NEM (which has as of now ~ 31 million USD marketcap): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEM_(cryptocurrency)

Quote

Although the NEM client is open source and available on github,[7] the NEM server based component, the NIS, is closed source and the binary is obfuscated to presumably prevent decompilers from revealing how it works."

Quote

Well because there is no Blockchain, there is no HEAT, there is no "Crypto 3.0". All there might be is a RESTful API on their premises acting like your
clients are connecting to a peer-to-peer network.

I don't know where you get the idea that there is no Blockchain.

This is not about components, as those guys wrote it is about the server software. The whole thing. WTF?
There is no reason to not open source the code. Really none. Unless of course....

....

... it could reveal the whole scam.

ohweoh

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Quote from: memberberry on January 13, 2017, 08:12:00 AM

Okay okay, for all those guys here who really think that HEAT is legit and totally not a scam and "Crypto 3.0":
Why do you guys think they won't release the source code on launch?
Oh you rascals didn't see that right? Here is the link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17313176

Well because there is no Blockchain, there is no HEAT, there is no "Crypto 3.0". All there might be is a RESTful API on their premises acting like your
clients are connecting to a peer-to-peer network. Or maybe they won't even do this because you guys totally drank their Kool-Aid and will probably even give more
money so they can finish the thing. If they had a product they would release the code. Or do you think any exchange will list this stuff if it is closed source? No they won't.
Just remember the Lucky7 incident. And now someone wants them to launch a closed source software?
Also IPR and competitive advantage are BS arguments for not open sourcing a coin, a blockchain product a "crpyto 3.0".

All those guys ever planned to do was enjoying themselves with your money.
Of course you could now say I'm fudding but I don't care. Watch the interview. Watch this thread.
They have a marketing guy, yet they are not answering the very basic questions here. The money is gone folks.

Why would they go through the effort of answering all of our emails, verifying our accounts AND making a making a test net? That's just waaaay too much effort to steal our money.

You're dumb and you say dumb things out loud.
Please go spend your free time improving your photoshop skills.

Crapsy

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shoutofgaia

Quote from: MoveCrypto on January 13, 2017, 10:05:09 AM

A lot of us went hungry because we put a whole month of lunch money into this.

You should never invest from your lunch box.

MoveCrypto

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move that crypto

Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on January 13, 2017, 12:49:34 AM

Stewie, sounds like you either are a kid in high school or some college freshman who invested probably enough for a PS4 game.

No one here buys your "substantial amount" claim. Anyone who did that is not spewing all this nonsense because they want their money to gain, not lose.
Maybe the cost of a videogame is a fortune to you, not to the real heavy whales.

Hey, that's not very fair. Everyone should have a voice, regardless of how much he invested. Stewie's posting is understandable. A lot of us went hungry because we put a whole month of lunch money into this.

memberberry

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Okay okay, for all those guys here who really think that HEAT is legit and totally not a scam and "Crypto 3.0":
Why do you guys think they won't release the source code on launch?
Oh you rascals didn't see that right? Here is the link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17313176

Well because there is no Blockchain, there is no HEAT, there is no "Crypto 3.0". All there might be is a RESTful API on their premises acting like your
clients are connecting to a peer-to-peer network. Or maybe they won't even do this because you guys totally drank their Kool-Aid and will probably even give more
money so they can finish the thing. If they had a product they would release the code. Or do you think any exchange will list this stuff if it is closed source? No they won't.
Just remember the Lucky7 incident. And now someone wants them to launch a closed source software?
Also IPR and competitive advantage are BS arguments for not open sourcing a coin, a blockchain product a "crpyto 3.0".

All those guys ever planned to do was enjoying themselves with your money.
Of course you could now say I'm fudding but I don't care. Watch the interview. Watch this thread.
They have a marketing guy, yet they are not answering the very basic questions here. The money is gone folks.

DaddyH

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So I've kept my reservations and criticisms polite and professional. I think this project is very ambitious but totally unrealistic and rather unprofessional in its outlook. Someone on C-Cex decided to offer a way out for investors by putting up a buy wall at just under 14k. I sold my remaining tokens for a slight profit.

I'll be looking and following this project still but decided this wasn't the investment for me anymore. I wish everyone the best of luck, and I may buy back in if the opportunity arises to purchase a few coins at a lower price.

3rd_Stryker

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My BTC STILL hasn't been verified. I sent the required BTC. Who do I contact?

johny08

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Quote from: StewieG on December 30, 2016, 10:48:19 AM

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FUCK FUCK FUCK!!! I forgot:

make it march. LOL

johny08

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Quote from: Eliphaz Fimk on January 06, 2017, 04:13:22 PM

We posted a brief technical update on the HEAT forum http://heatledger.net/index.php?topic=28.msg419#msg419

The most important part there is that in preparations for live asset testing / launch we expect the current testnet to be scrapped without further warning - other than newsletter dispatch - within the next 3-7 days, so please be sure to save any important data you may have stored there (such as messages).

sounds good to me. might it even be february

LemonAndFriesOne

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Stewie, sounds like you either are a kid in high school or some college freshman who invested probably enough for a PS4 game.

No one here buys your "substantial amount" claim. Anyone who did that is not spewing all this nonsense because they want their money to gain, not lose.
Maybe the cost of a videogame is a fortune to you, not to the real heavy whales.

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