Topic: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin ❄︎ Big Update 27.11.❄︎ In-Wallet Tradebot❄︎ [MALWARE?] - page 165. (Read 225908 times)
July 06, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
IcebergCoin will be a nice coin, I have pay attention on it some days
July 06, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
The dev is explaining it in the main post.
Bittrex will supervise everything, and make sure that everything is right before giving any BTC.
Is not Bittrex enought credibility for you?
I can't understand why are you just saying fools about this project, when you have the signature of Icebergcoin.
Are you suporting it or not?
No sense
It can't be long before up to 96 BTC (I have to correct myself previously mistaking 500 BTC for being the amount that ICO is worth but that doesn't change my point) is released (probably even before the PoW ends) and the developer would be absolutely free to cash out up to $60,000 because it's already in BTC, not ICB - they don't even have to wait long enough for price to reach its potential before dumping. The amount is actually many times more than the highest premine % ceilings that the community ever tolerate as acceptable, why would this be an exception?
Then they just walk away forever with no repercussions. They could then release their next copycoin, because if people keep falling for that, it's tempting to keep doing that when you get $60,000 for what is a few weeks of work at most, isn't? I highly doubt that Bittrex have any information about the dev's real life identity, which would be something that would change the situation.
I do support it, but how much more I will invest in it, if anything at all, depends on the level of competence presented by the developer's answers. I'm sure I'm not the only one like that.
July 06, 2014, 07:31:03 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
Do the people on 2009 had any warranty about bitcoin? People risked their money, even paying electricity bills for something that had no profit. Now some of those people are rich.
An example of it:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/29/5156246/7-5-million-bitcoins-on-hard-drive-thrown-away-in-uk
That is nothing like what we see here. It could be slightly different but that's up to the dev.
July 06, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
July 06, 2014, 06:47:57 PM
Can't wait for tomorrow!!! 
July 06, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
google trad french
July 06, 2014, 06:33:42 PM
Well done. Can't wait to mine it
July 06, 2014, 05:52:18 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
Do the people on 2009 had any warranty about bitcoin? People risked their money, even paying electricity bills for something that had no profit. Now some of those people are rich.
An example of it:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/29/5156246/7-5-million-bitcoins-on-hard-drive-thrown-away-in-uk
July 06, 2014, 05:34:41 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
The dev is explaining it in the main post.
Bittrex will supervise everything, and make sure that everything is right before giving any BTC.
Is not Bittrex enought credibility for you?
I can't understand why are you just saying fools about this project, when you have the signature of Icebergcoin.
Are you suporting it or not?
No sense
July 06, 2014, 05:17:19 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
People who invest based on nothing more than 'good vibrations' will lose most of the time, you know that, right?Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
I know there's always risk, but is it not reasonable to expect that the dev will do anything in their power to mitigate the risk? They are currently doing the exact opposite.
July 06, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
There is no investment whitout risk. I feel comfortable investing on this coin, I spoke with devs on IRC and I have good vibrations about the future.
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
Nobody forces anyone to invest. Look at NXT, I was following them at the begining and I didn't invest because I thought it was going to be a scam, now I hate me when I remember that.
I will trust in this tip of the iceberg, and I will wait to see the upcoming hidden part
July 06, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
We are not going to change the ICO marketcap because we,the team, have discussed it many times and we consider that it is a fair price for everyone.
We don't care if nobody buys, we don't care if we sell 0.1 BTC or 90 BTC in the ICO,we prefer to sell 0.1 BTC with a fair price,than 90 BTC with a low price,because this would make investor dump the coin. The objective of the ICO is to give the chance to investors of buying at a fair and realistic price,unsold coins will be destroyed by Bittrex.
So, we are meant to accept that $300,000 (500 BTC) is a fair price for what looks like a couple weeks worth of effort, tops, of rehashing other people's code without any innovations?We don't care if nobody buys, we don't care if we sell 0.1 BTC or 90 BTC in the ICO,we prefer to sell 0.1 BTC with a fair price,than 90 BTC with a low price,because this would make investor dump the coin. The objective of the ICO is to give the chance to investors of buying at a fair and realistic price,unsold coins will be destroyed by Bittrex.
You say it's a realistic price - if it is then you must have evidence you used to assess it, that we (the investors) can verify to be true. There's gotta be something? Cause if there isn't then it's just as realistic as 100000000 BTC which I, too, just pulled out of my ass.
"We have discussed this" or anything of the sort is not an argument, especially because you have near zero credibility or accountability, your anonymous claims cannot inspire confidence in anybody.
As it stands, you could disappear with the ICO profit as soon as it's sold without any repercussions, the investment of fools who bought it would be worth zero and there would be nothing anyone could do about it.
What evidence can you provide which ensures this cannot happen?
In addition, you claim you are intentionally not going to inform the community about any of your plans. How is that supposed to inspire confidence? I think it does the exact opposite.
Do you have anything you can say to convince people that you are not delusional?
July 06, 2014, 04:05:28 PM
Price could be higher than DARK?
July 06, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
I must write here, im seeing your signature in all threads haha
What are your features?
I mined TAC and Your best point is POS
Perhaps the algo which suits some miners better and distributes the coin in a manner that's slightly more fair.What are your features?
I mined TAC and Your best point is POS
But after 7 days of mining it's over and PoS starts. And... that's all?
Whitepaper mentions the possible future features but it's just a list of features unrelated to each other and already existing in other coins, so even the ideas are nothing new, and there is not a word about what purpose will the coin and wallet serve or what problem does it tackle, or anything of any value about the features mentioned.
Without anything to back your pretty much undefined intentions with, no serious investor will come within miles of this coin, so you need to think fast about this:
- What problem not addressed by any other coin on the market can we tackle with a unique approach and go on to design and deliver an innovative, working solution that would serve some sort of a purpose to the public?
- Realistically thinking - if we don't come up with ideas backed by convincing theoretical knowledge and present them within a couple days, it would be a miracle to sell even as much as 1% of the IPO, as the proposed Market Cap valuation is currently far beyond delusional. What reasoning is your supposed Market Cap value based on, anyway?
These problems need to be addressed and then we can talk about a coin that could survive past its first few weeks.
Don't worry, I still think this has potential - but these questions need to be asked and need to be addressed!
Developers - why haven't you addressed any of these concerns? Please respond.
Now,our first priority is to launch this coin.
We have a hard work ahead and we are working hard to launch accordingly to our plans.
This coin is not a copypaste coin,it has been rebuilt because it is the first coin NIST5 PoW/PoS and many features has to be recoded.
We have many plans,but,first we have to finish the most important thing.
We actually know which one will be the next step, but we are not going to publish it. We don't want fall in pump and dump schemes. We have seen in the last weeks a lot of examples of that, any dev publishes an announce of a next feature, suddenly everybody buy, later everyday sell, and after that people forget about this coin and begin to look for the next one to pump. That's not what we are looking for.
We are not going to change the ICO marketcap because we,the team, have discussed it many times and we consider that it is a fair price for everyone.
We don't care if nobody buys, we don't care if we sell 0.1 BTC or 90 BTC in the ICO,we prefer to sell 0.1 BTC with a fair price,than 90 BTC with a low price,because this would make investor dump the coin. The objective of the ICO is to give the chance to investors of buying at a fair and realistic price,unsold coins will be destroyed by Bittrex.
Nice explanation, there were some people waiting something like this
July 06, 2014, 02:46:55 PM
still not tomorrow??
cant wait to buy!!
cant wait to buy!!
July 06, 2014, 02:27:17 PM
Launch date ?
Market in Bittrex will be opened tomorrow and mining phase will begin about 11 July July 06, 2014, 02:26:11 PM
The point is that it is really difficult to rent high hash for NIST5
Making that we could not spread the hash,making possible attacks.
There will not be any suspicious here.
July 06, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
I must write here, im seeing your signature in all threads haha
What are your features?
I mined TAC and Your best point is POS
Perhaps the algo which suits some miners better and distributes the coin in a manner that's slightly more fair.What are your features?
I mined TAC and Your best point is POS
But after 7 days of mining it's over and PoS starts. And... that's all?
Whitepaper mentions the possible future features but it's just a list of features unrelated to each other and already existing in other coins, so even the ideas are nothing new, and there is not a word about what purpose will the coin and wallet serve or what problem does it tackle, or anything of any value about the features mentioned.
Without anything to back your pretty much undefined intentions with, no serious investor will come within miles of this coin, so you need to think fast about this:
- What problem not addressed by any other coin on the market can we tackle with a unique approach and go on to design and deliver an innovative, working solution that would serve some sort of a purpose to the public?
- Realistically thinking - if we don't come up with ideas backed by convincing theoretical knowledge and present them within a couple days, it would be a miracle to sell even as much as 1% of the IPO, as the proposed Market Cap valuation is currently far beyond delusional. What reasoning is your supposed Market Cap value based on, anyway?
These problems need to be addressed and then we can talk about a coin that could survive past its first few weeks.
Don't worry, I still think this has potential - but these questions need to be asked and need to be addressed!
Developers - why haven't you addressed any of these concerns? Please respond.
Now,our first priority is to launch this coin.
We have a hard work ahead and we are working hard to launch accordingly to our plans.
This coin is not a copypaste coin,it has been rebuilt because it is the first coin NIST5 PoW/PoS and many features has to be recoded.
We have many plans,but,first we have to finish the most important thing.
We actually know which one will be the next step, but we are not going to publish it. We don't want fall in pump and dump schemes. We have seen in the last weeks a lot of examples of that, any dev publishes an announce of a next feature, suddenly everybody buy, later everyday sell, and after that people forget about this coin and begin to look for the next one to pump. That's not what we are looking for.
We are not going to change the ICO marketcap because we,the team, have discussed it many times and we consider that it is a fair price for everyone.
We don't care if nobody buys, we don't care if we sell 0.1 BTC or 90 BTC in the ICO,we prefer to sell 0.1 BTC with a fair price,than 90 BTC with a low price,because this would make investor dump the coin. The objective of the ICO is to give the chance to investors of buying at a fair and realistic price,unsold coins will be destroyed by Bittrex.
July 06, 2014, 02:03:46 PM
I think some people forget that we are under Alternate cryptocurrencies subforum. ALL, I repeat, ALL alt coins have an speculative purpose and nothing more. From Litecoin, to Darkcoin. Some of them can take some advantages, some improvementes, some features, but at the end, all of them will die, and Bitcoin will be only one with a real purpose.
Icebergcoin Devs says that they don't want a pump and dump, they want a long term grow, that's ok. But everybody should understand that at the end, the final prupose is speculation like Litecoin, Darkcoin, Bytecoin, Dogecoin...
Yes, it's better when the speculation come with some innovations and good features that sustain that speculation, of course. But ask to icebergcoin dev to tell us the "final purpose" is ridiculous.
Just my opinion.
I will buy ICB, I think marketcap is ok, I don't see it expensive, if they actually have a plan the coin will overpass 500BTC marketcap easily. I will buy because I will sell later for more BTC, that's the purpose. I would like mine with a farm, but I just have 6 GPU, so I think it will be hard to get too much for me just mining.
Icebergcoin Devs says that they don't want a pump and dump, they want a long term grow, that's ok. But everybody should understand that at the end, the final prupose is speculation like Litecoin, Darkcoin, Bytecoin, Dogecoin...
Yes, it's better when the speculation come with some innovations and good features that sustain that speculation, of course. But ask to icebergcoin dev to tell us the "final purpose" is ridiculous.
Just my opinion.
I will buy ICB, I think marketcap is ok, I don't see it expensive, if they actually have a plan the coin will overpass 500BTC marketcap easily. I will buy because I will sell later for more BTC, that's the purpose. I would like mine with a farm, but I just have 6 GPU, so I think it will be hard to get too much for me just mining.
July 06, 2014, 01:32:34 PM
good coin
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