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Topic: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin ❄︎ Big Update 27.11.❄︎ In-Wallet Tradebot❄︎ [MALWARE?] - page 87. (Read 225902 times)

sr. member
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Because no one read this I will re-post it for future reference! I hope Bittrex refunds everyone for the ICO and pays the devs in iceberg coins.


So sad what will happen to IPO/ICO holders. When the mining starts the price will plummet, Doing IPO/ICO for this industry is not acting in the investors best interest. Please heavily research IPO's before investing.

In the real world IPO's or initial public offerings are designed to give clients/insiders a perk for staying with the firm over the years. The valuation has to be spot on so that the reduction in share price is beneficial to the client.

You can't set an IPO price for a crypto-currency since there is no real business history or established revenue streams behind it yet. I.e. Facebook revenues and client-base.

Even then once ipo's hit the market the share price usually plummets because the IPO holders usually sell for profits if the spread permits, leaving the non-ipo investors holding the initial loss. The seasoned trader will usually buy at the bottom after the IPO and panic selling from day traders occur.

In this case miners and the development team have the true IPO benefit in like vs like analysis. This is due to the fact that miners and development team pay IPO prices already (i.e. cost of electricity for miners), The Development team usually gets the biggest benefit because there cost are usually only payroll. Please do your research as I only post this as a professional. Investors that get burnt over and over again usually stop buying crypto-currencies. This damages the industry. Imagine exchanges with no investors. My advice: Buy after the miners and developers dump!

http://www.businessinsider.com/5-myths-about-ipo-investing-2013-10


And for the dev team!





That was predictable, 8k satoshi were too much for this coin.

Price dropping, already at 4k, 1-2k sat sounds reasonable for stabilization.

What you wrote is correct but it is only the rosy side of the story - dev sold coins in the IPO thereby retaining no stake and completely cashing out. This is not what IPO/ICO means. IPO proceeds are usually used for business development, but we have here a situation that the developer of the coin sold his whole stake and bears no scrutiny how the funds will be used, if any, for the coin development. IPO is not the correct term.


ICB = ISO = Initial Scam Offering
Bittrex is at fault. Instead of looking after investors and not hosting so called IPOs (cashing out on premined coins is NOT a IPO), they should educate investors what is actually happening. Bittrex is chasing short-term volume, however, long-term it is killing crypto and Bittrex reputation
sr. member
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*Insert negative comment here in hopes of persuading others to turn off their miners*
Lol
legendary
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Less than 15 blocks to Miners full ATTACK and hashrate explode  Cool
sr. member
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did i miss something  Huh
i just bought @7k then toilet break BOOM ! down to 4k-5k
its a landslide  Grin Grin Grin
Very lucky
hero member
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My last rig has ended the 3 hours renting period. Sorry for all those who could not resist to wait, watch, and make conclusions.
Never get driven by greed. And no, you'll never know what rigs are mine  Grin Keep on renting them!
sr. member
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*Insert negative comment here in hopes of persuading others to turn off their miners*
newbie
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Because no one read this I will re-post it for future reference! I hope Bittrex refunds everyone for the ICO and pays the devs in iceberg coins.


So sad what will happen to IPO/ICO holders. When the mining starts the price will plummet, Doing IPO/ICO for this industry is not acting in the investors best interest. Please heavily research IPO's before investing.

In the real world IPO's or initial public offerings are designed to give clients/insiders a perk for staying with the firm over the years. The valuation has to be spot on so that the reduction in share price is beneficial to the client.

You can't set an IPO price for a crypto-currency since there is no real business history or established revenue streams behind it yet. I.e. Facebook revenues and client-base.

Even then once ipo's hit the market the share price usually plummets because the IPO holders usually sell for profits if the spread permits, leaving the non-ipo investors holding the initial loss. The seasoned trader will usually buy at the bottom after the IPO and panic selling from day traders occur.

In this case miners and the development team have the true IPO benefit in like vs like analysis. This is due to the fact that miners and development team pay IPO prices already (i.e. cost of electricity for miners), The Development team usually gets the biggest benefit because there cost are usually only payroll. Please do your research as I only post this as a professional. Investors that get burnt over and over again usually stop buying crypto-currencies. This damages the industry. Imagine exchanges with no investors. My advice: Buy after the miners and developers dump!

http://www.businessinsider.com/5-myths-about-ipo-investing-2013-10


And for the dev team!





That was predictable, 8k satoshi were too much for this coin.

Price dropping, already at 4k, 1-2k sat sounds reasonable for stabilization.

What you wrote is correct but it is only the rosy side of the story - dev sold coins in the IPO thereby retaining no stake and completely cashing out. This is not what IPO/ICO means. IPO proceeds are usually used for business development, but we have here a situation that the developer of the coin sold his whole stake and bears no scrutiny how the funds will be used, if any, for the coin development. IPO is not the correct term.


ICB = ISO = Initial Scam Offering
legendary
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hero member
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You are right in regards to business, but business doesn't have to be about knowingly taking another person's money KNOWING they are throwing their dollars out the window!  Would have been MUCH more good willed to mine something yourself with your rigs!  

"Well, I'm no jerk"........dude, I would hate to meet a person who fits your definition of a jerk.  You come on here calling everyone fucking morons, people who are just fucking new and making poor decisions based on their inexperience.  Weren't you new at one point.........you justify ripping people off because their ignorant.  

I'm sorry man, but you owe some fucking apologies to all the "morons" following this stupid shit!  You see a scam as an opportunity for you to further take people for their money and justify as "it's business".........I hope to fuck I never do "business" with someone like you!  You've got a fucked up picture of what business is if you think it's about taking advantage of less knowledgeable people than yourself.......you could make a lot more money and sleep better by educating people with all your fucking wisdom.

Unbelievable man, unbelievable!

Well, to put it simply. If i tell you tens, hundreds of time: Do NOT jump from that bridge, and you decide to do it so, am i responsible for it?

Well, read ALL my topics, especially this one, and count the times i posted, bold, fat, big, 16x "NEVER RENT A RIG. NOBODY RENTS A RIG CHEAPER THAN WHAT THEY CAN MINE THEMSELVES"

You'll also find "WHY ARE YOU PAYING DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE AMOUNT FOR A RIG WITH 0 REWARDS, OR 10 ICO TO SPLIT WITH 800 OTHERS"

Well, at least i gave them a warning. Others just shut up.

If they want to learn, they better start by READING the topics. There is not a SINGLE post i did not read in this entire thread, and i'm not even mining it.
newbie
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did i miss something  Huh
i just bought @7k then toilet break BOOM ! down to 4k-5k
its a landslide  Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Because no one read this I will re-post it for future reference! I hope Bittrex refunds everyone for the ICO and pays the devs in iceberg coins.


So sad what will happen to IPO/ICO holders. When the mining starts the price will plummet, Doing IPO/ICO for this industry is not acting in the investors best interest. Please heavily research IPO's before investing.

In the real world IPO's or initial public offerings are designed to give clients/insiders a perk for staying with the firm over the years. The valuation has to be spot on so that the reduction in share price is beneficial to the client.

You can't set an IPO price for a crypto-currency since there is no real business history or established revenue streams behind it yet. I.e. Facebook revenues and client-base.

Even then once ipo's hit the market the share price usually plummets because the IPO holders usually sell for profits if the spread permits, leaving the non-ipo investors holding the initial loss. The seasoned trader will usually buy at the bottom after the IPO and panic selling from day traders occur.

In this case miners and the development team have the true IPO benefit in like vs like analysis. This is due to the fact that miners and development team pay IPO prices already (i.e. cost of electricity for miners), The Development team usually gets the biggest benefit because there cost are usually only payroll. Please do your research as I only post this as a professional. Investors that get burnt over and over again usually stop buying crypto-currencies. This damages the industry. Imagine exchanges with no investors. My advice: Buy after the miners and developers dump!

http://www.businessinsider.com/5-myths-about-ipo-investing-2013-10


And for the dev team!





That was predictable, 8k satoshi were too much for this coin.

Price dropping, already at 4k, 1-2k sat sounds reasonable for stabilization.

What you wrote is correct but it is only the rosy side of the story - dev sold coins in the IPO thereby retaining no stake and completely cashing out. This is not what IPO/ICO means. IPO proceeds are usually used for business development, but we have here a situation that the developer of the coin sold his whole stake and bears no scrutiny how the funds will be used, if any, for the coin development. IPO is not the correct term.
sr. member
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legendary
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Traveling in subspace
Don't worry. You already earned 7 btc back with your mining rig rentals.

You mad bro?

I can say dumb stuff and come away with it now when people think I'm Josh.

I have other preorders for way more than that amount that i'm still waiting also (hello knc... )
While they mine away with the rigs they built with your pre-oder money.
hero member
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I'm dying.
* KeyserSozeMC High and drunk. Just observing the thread.

I have a feeling.
legendary
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This is literally the stupidest shit I have seen yet with a new coin, although I am not a long term member of the crypto scene!  I can't fucking believe people are putting their money and precious resources towards this!!  

Someone rents a miner for 1.2 BTC to get 15 of these coins and the renter of that rig thinks its a cool fucking thing he got over on the person who rented it.  Dude, from your last several posts..........you are a fucking jerk!  You come in here and talk shit about the dev team scamming people and this being a complete waste to mine.......then you turn around and openly admit YOU are ripping your own fucking customers off.  WTF man?!  Your a dick for this shit!!  Scams are all good then when you are the one making the money hah.......you should fucking refund that person who you KNOWINGLY took advantage of......cause you are so fucking smart and we are all dumb asses?!

I thought it would be cool just to mine a new algo..........what a fucking joke this turned out to be!

Sorry to all those that got fucked by this disaster!!

Well, i'm no jerk. I openly warn people NOT to rent hashrates at DOUBLE or TRIPPLE the price.
Not my fault it they do. There are arguments enought that this coin is made to fail. If they do decide to invest, not my fault.

The costs of my hardware over the course of the last few years is well above 50k €. So you mind if i get some return out of it?
Like i said before, this aint no game, this is business. You need smart ones, and you need fools. That's what makes economy.
Exactly the same as why people buy Apple devices. Apple are the smart ones, the consumers the fools.

I never encouraged anyone to rent a rig. NOBODY will rent his rig for less than what they can mine themselfs!

You are right in regards to business, but business doesn't have to be about knowingly taking another person's money KNOWING they are throwing their dollars out the window!  Would have been MUCH more good willed to mine something yourself with your rigs!  

"Well, I'm no jerk"........dude, I would hate to meet a person who fits your definition of a jerk.  You come on here calling everyone fucking morons, people who are just fucking new and making poor decisions based on their inexperience.  Weren't you new at one point.........you justify ripping people off because their ignorant.  

I'm sorry man, but you owe some fucking apologies to all the "morons" following this stupid shit!  You see a scam as an opportunity for you to further take people for their money and justify as "it's business".........I hope to fuck I never do "business" with someone like you!  You've got a fucked up picture of what business is if you think it's about taking advantage of less knowledgeable people than yourself.......you could make a lot more money and sleep better by educating people with all your fucking wisdom.

Unbelievable man, unbelievable!

I agree, its called good customer service. which Bitspender must not have learned. these are the actions of a greedy tycoon. Ahh Mr. Pulitzer I presume! LOL! Wink
sr. member
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Fortunately i didn't bought at 8000 satoshi.
newbie
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hero member
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Don't worry. You already earned 7 btc back with your mining rig rentals.

You mad bro?

I can say dumb stuff and come away with it now when people think I'm Josh.

I would be carefull when you're going to buy stuff at people's home with your name anyway  Wink
And why should i be mad. The BFL pre orders are the least of my concerns. I have other preorders for way more than that amount that i'm still waiting also (hello knc... )
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