[ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT - page 33.

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: Airdraw on April 11, 2018, 02:12:59 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 11, 2018, 10:57:57 AM

It’s common sense after looking at their numbers and business plan. I don’t have time to dissect every scam out there, but wanted to drop by as the voice of experience and reason for those who lack both.

If their numbers don't make sense to you, it doesn't automatically make it a scam. A scam implies that they're going to take all the investors money and run. I don't see any indication that this will happen, do you?

I believe that they will begin operations when they say they will and will pay their investors. But the return on investment is going to be highly dependent on BTC value at the time of mining. If BTC continues to tank, they won't be able to afford business expenses, and the ICO is screwed. Everybody investing should understand that. Any business that can't pull in enough revenue can't sustain itself. This shouldn't be news to anyone.

If you have any information on why you think IRM might be an actual scam, please share with us.

We also would like to look at the proofs of this person.

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: Airdraw on April 11, 2018, 10:24:59 AM

Quote from: rubine2323

Wouldnt the icerock melt down after some time? There is no sence mining in an icerock.

LOL, it's not an igloo. It's a cave cut into a mountain. It's cold, but it's made of stone. It's not going to melt. Dias has addressed the humidity issue in a previous post, but I can't recall the specifics.

Quote from: rubine2323

If someone invest 1000$ 306% ROI per year?! Seems like you are running Antminer coasts of an Antminer is 1200$. What are those 16 people earning 0$ per year.

Read the whitepaper. 10% of profits will go to paying employees.

Quote from: rubine2323

And you pay lifetime? So you are doing this all for your customers for free. Well thats very friendly. Seems like a charity project or the earnings and profits are based on a Bitcoin price increase to 100.000$ then maybe people get paid.

This is all very clear if you look at the website / whitepaper. 50% of profits are given to investors, the other 50% is used to re-invest into the company, maintenance, and to pay management. It's incredibly straight-forward. "Lifetime pay" is of course contingent on BTC mining remaining profitable.

Quote from: rubine2323

Cant even get why people are buying these tokens. Maybe based on the story of the project. Maybe people think hey cool website and story ill invest 1000$?

How is that different than any other investment? If the story they're telling doesn't meet your burden of proof, then don't invest. I've done a ton of a research and am reasonably confident that ICR is legitimate, though that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be profitable. There's an inherent risk due to the nature of the crypto market. You just seem to be screaming "scam" because you don't understand how this ICO works.

Sir! Thank you very much for helping to deliver the truth.

I am proud that we have such an investor.

minerbobbert

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Quote from: minerbobbert on April 10, 2018, 07:16:50 PM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 05:58:31 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 10, 2018, 05:26:47 AM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 04:10:59 AM

Quote from: g.m.tyshenk on April 10, 2018, 03:06:17 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 09, 2018, 02:29:21 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

ye cant answer simple questions and has a couple for shills hanging around pity people will lose money.

I am not a shill for anyone!
I have read the white paper (hsve you?) and read the website information and reviewed the ICO.
I currently hold no ROCK2 tokens but believe Ice Rock Miming is one of the most promising ICOs for 2018.
You may want to do some due diligence before calling an ICO "a scam".

Thank you very much, Sir.

Sometimes I think that such a blaming are coming from our loser competitors.

Ive asked you simple questions and u have dodged them with bullshit answers everytime.

1 how much are your running costs .. very simple the answer cannot be 20% because the number 20% is not a constand and your running costs should be to a certain extend.
We would need to know salaries maintenance and power costs everything u put under that 20%. You can give the maintentance and power costs Per miner if u like.

2 what will you do when 20% does not cover the running costs ? Say god forbid BTC goes to 2k what will happen?

3 the Team as u call it will NOT be drawing a salary Next to the 10% they claim will they ?

4 that 20% cannot be a fixed number If u can afford to pay everything when btc is at 7000 for 20% then when it is at 14000 you should be able to Half that and give the benifit to your customers either by buying more miners or better payouts.

So lets have some Clear answers to these no more dodging the numbers if u cannot give those numbers u have no buisness asking for money.

There are a couple of small errors in your whitepaper ill let u slide on for now.

I have been mining for a long time I know what I'm talking about.

Do you have telegram or skype? I will call you.

I am tired of misunderstanding.

No, please post here publicly. These are basic concepts that you should have explained in the white paper.

I find it quite telling he completely ignored this after I posted it.

runtretstavors

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It seems to be an good project. It could be a good investiment!

den_penta

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If Trump will start rocket-game cave in Kazakhstan with natural ventilation will be much better investment than all that crypto in the world.
But without ASICs and other bells and whistles...

Airdraw

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 11, 2018, 10:57:57 AM

It’s common sense after looking at their numbers and business plan. I don’t have time to dissect every scam out there, but wanted to drop by as the voice of experience and reason for those who lack both.

If their numbers don't make sense to you, it doesn't automatically make it a scam. A scam implies that they're going to take all the investors money and run. I don't see any indication that this will happen, do you?

I believe that they will begin operations when they say they will and will pay their investors. But the return on investment is going to be highly dependent on BTC value at the time of mining. If BTC continues to tank, they won't be able to afford business expenses, and the ICO is screwed. Everybody investing should understand that. Any business that can't pull in enough revenue can't sustain itself. This shouldn't be news to anyone.

If you have any information on why you think IRM might be an actual scam, please share with us.

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Quote from: MishaSER on April 10, 2018, 07:30:58 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

Wow this is the statement, with your rank I would like to hear a more detailed explanation.

It’s common sense after looking at their numbers and business plan. I don’t have time to dissect every scam out there, but wanted to drop by as the voice of experience and reason for those who lack both.

Airdraw

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Quote from: rubine2323

Wouldnt the icerock melt down after some time? There is no sence mining in an icerock.

LOL, it's not an igloo. It's a cave cut into a mountain. It's cold, but it's made of stone. It's not going to melt. Dias has addressed the humidity issue in a previous post, but I can't recall the specifics.

Quote from: rubine2323

If someone invest 1000$ 306% ROI per year?! Seems like you are running Antminer coasts of an Antminer is 1200$. What are those 16 people earning 0$ per year.

Read the whitepaper. 10% of profits will go to paying employees.

Quote from: rubine2323

And you pay lifetime? So you are doing this all for your customers for free. Well thats very friendly. Seems like a charity project or the earnings and profits are based on a Bitcoin price increase to 100.000$ then maybe people get paid.

This is all very clear if you look at the website / whitepaper. 50% of profits are given to investors, the other 50% is used to re-invest into the company, maintenance, and to pay management. It's incredibly straight-forward. "Lifetime pay" is of course contingent on BTC mining remaining profitable.

Quote from: rubine2323

Cant even get why people are buying these tokens. Maybe based on the story of the project. Maybe people think hey cool website and story ill invest 1000$?

How is that different than any other investment? If the story they're telling doesn't meet your burden of proof, then don't invest. I've done a ton of a research and am reasonably confident that ICR is legitimate, though that doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be profitable. There's an inherent risk due to the nature of the crypto market. You just seem to be screaming "scam" because you don't understand how this ICO works.

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: AlexsMO on April 10, 2018, 11:46:09 AM

The company is young but very promising , and community is growing fast.

Thank you very much!

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: Kurapika on April 10, 2018, 11:40:14 AM

I like this project. I am evaluate the option.
Good luck guys.

Thanks a lot!

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I want some of that hopium.

Any would be investards would do well to research what happened to all the other mining ICOs on bitcointalk.

Let me refresh your memories because some of you might not have been around.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmnmlaunched-mineum-x13-pow-started-1461341

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mineum/

https://twitter.com/Crypto_Krill/status/981556487129481217

Another example being hydrominer.

Stop making other people who are selling you hopium rich.

And also anyone who's telling you that since they believe in crypto and that they are sure that BTC will be $13500 by the summer is a liar and a scammer.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/george-soros-prepares-to-trade-cryptocurrencies-as-prices-plunge?utm_content=crypto&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic

Soros does not want to buy expensive BTC.

Also anyone who's offering insane ROI and more importantly LIFETIME PROFIT is just another Bitconnect.

I am guessing that all you hopium dealers are aware of the rektage of the Bitconnect investards.

Stop giving away your precious crypto and making other people rich.

DYOR.

WHY DELETE THIS?

IF YOU WERE LEGITIMATE YOU WOULD TRY TO CONVINCE WOULD BE INVESTORS THAT I AM WRONG.

BUT YOU CAN'T.

YOU KNOW FULL WELL YOU ARE JUST SELLING HOPIUM TO NOOBS.

Keep deleting and I'll keep posting you little con artist.

rubine2323

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Wouldnt the icerock melt down after some time? There is no sence mining in an icerock. Also the humidity is very high. This ico dosnt make sense to me. Seems very scammy.
Anyways iam sure a lot of people will buy that tokens. Also lifetime profit sounds Telegrambot or HYIP like.

Also i can see there are 16 people working on that company.
If someone invest 1000$ 306% ROI per year?! Seems like you are running Antminer coasts of an Antminer is 1200$. What are those 16 people earning 0$ per year. And you pay lifetime? So you are doing this all for your customers for free. Well thats very friendly. Seems like a charity project or the earnings and profits are based on a Bitcoin price increase to 100.000$ then maybe people get paid.

Cant even get why people are buying these tokens. Maybe based on the story of the project. Maybe people think hey cool website and story ill invest 1000$?

minerbobbert

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Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 05:58:31 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 10, 2018, 05:26:47 AM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 04:10:59 AM

Quote from: g.m.tyshenk on April 10, 2018, 03:06:17 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 09, 2018, 02:29:21 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

ye cant answer simple questions and has a couple for shills hanging around pity people will lose money.

I am not a shill for anyone!
I have read the white paper (hsve you?) and read the website information and reviewed the ICO.
I currently hold no ROCK2 tokens but believe Ice Rock Miming is one of the most promising ICOs for 2018.
You may want to do some due diligence before calling an ICO "a scam".

Thank you very much, Sir.

Sometimes I think that such a blaming are coming from our loser competitors.

Ive asked you simple questions and u have dodged them with bullshit answers everytime.

1 how much are your running costs .. very simple the answer cannot be 20% because the number 20% is not a constand and your running costs should be to a certain extend.
We would need to know salaries maintenance and power costs everything u put under that 20%. You can give the maintentance and power costs Per miner if u like.

2 what will you do when 20% does not cover the running costs ? Say god forbid BTC goes to 2k what will happen?

3 the Team as u call it will NOT be drawing a salary Next to the 10% they claim will they ?

4 that 20% cannot be a fixed number If u can afford to pay everything when btc is at 7000 for 20% then when it is at 14000 you should be able to Half that and give the benifit to your customers either by buying more miners or better payouts.

So lets have some Clear answers to these no more dodging the numbers if u cannot give those numbers u have no buisness asking for money.

There are a couple of small errors in your whitepaper ill let u slide on for now.

I have been mining for a long time I know what I'm talking about.

Do you have telegram or skype? I will call you.

I am tired of misunderstanding.

No, please post here publicly. These are basic concepts that you should have explained in the white paper.

AlexsMO

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The company is young but very promising , and community is growing fast.

Kurapika

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I like this project. I am evaluate the option.
Good luck guys.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

Wow this is the statement, with your rank I would like to hear a more detailed explanation.

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: sluppy on April 10, 2018, 05:26:47 AM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 04:10:59 AM

Quote from: g.m.tyshenk on April 10, 2018, 03:06:17 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 09, 2018, 02:29:21 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

ye cant answer simple questions and has a couple for shills hanging around pity people will lose money.

I am not a shill for anyone!
I have read the white paper (hsve you?) and read the website information and reviewed the ICO.
I currently hold no ROCK2 tokens but believe Ice Rock Miming is one of the most promising ICOs for 2018.
You may want to do some due diligence before calling an ICO "a scam".

Thank you very much, Sir.

Sometimes I think that such a blaming are coming from our loser competitors.

Ive asked you simple questions and u have dodged them with bullshit answers everytime.

1 how much are your running costs .. very simple the answer cannot be 20% because the number 20% is not a constand and your running costs should be to a certain extend.
We would need to know salaries maintenance and power costs everything u put under that 20%. You can give the maintentance and power costs Per miner if u like.

2 what will you do when 20% does not cover the running costs ? Say god forbid BTC goes to 2k what will happen?

3 the Team as u call it will NOT be drawing a salary Next to the 10% they claim will they ?

4 that 20% cannot be a fixed number If u can afford to pay everything when btc is at 7000 for 20% then when it is at 14000 you should be able to Half that and give the benifit to your customers either by buying more miners or better payouts.

So lets have some Clear answers to these no more dodging the numbers if u cannot give those numbers u have no buisness asking for money.

There are a couple of small errors in your whitepaper ill let u slide on for now.

I have been mining for a long time I know what I'm talking about.

Do you have telegram or skype? I will call you.

I am tired of misunderstanding.

walriapunvi

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Sure thing. If this project is implemented in the best way, then it will be able to get its market share.

sluppy

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Quote from: dias.kurmanov on April 10, 2018, 04:10:59 AM

Quote from: g.m.tyshenk on April 10, 2018, 03:06:17 AM

Quote from: sluppy on April 09, 2018, 02:29:21 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 09, 2018, 01:06:51 PM

Obvious scam is obvious.

ye cant answer simple questions and has a couple for shills hanging around pity people will lose money.

I am not a shill for anyone!
I have read the white paper (hsve you?) and read the website information and reviewed the ICO.
I currently hold no ROCK2 tokens but believe Ice Rock Miming is one of the most promising ICOs for 2018.
You may want to do some due diligence before calling an ICO "a scam".

Thank you very much, Sir.

Sometimes I think that such a blaming are coming from our loser competitors.

Ive asked you simple questions and u have dodged them with bullshit answers everytime.

1 how much are your running costs .. very simple the answer cannot be 20% because the number 20% is not a constand and your running costs should be to a certain extend.
We would need to know salaries maintenance and power costs everything u put under that 20%. You can give the maintentance and power costs Per miner if u like.

2 what will you do when 20% does not cover the running costs ? Say god forbid BTC goes to 2k what will happen?

3 the Team as u call it will NOT be drawing a salary Next to the 10% they claim will they ?

4 that 20% cannot be a fixed number If u can afford to pay everything when btc is at 7000 for 20% then when it is at 14000 you should be able to Half that and give the benifit to your customers either by buying more miners or better payouts.

So lets have some Clear answers to these no more dodging the numbers if u cannot give those numbers u have no buisness asking for money.

There are a couple of small errors in your whitepaper ill let u slide on for now.

I have been mining for a long time I know what I'm talking about.

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