[ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT - page 41.

patrip

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BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions.

It is my only original message I've got instant ban for:

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Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?

Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs.

Honestly these questions are messed up to say the least.
Question 1) implies you think their plans might be illegal and they are stupid enough, not to know that it is illegal.
Question 2) Implies that Kazakhstan is so goddamn corrupt, that you need the mafia or some other private militia to protect you.

Now do you really see nothing wrong with these questions?

rgsnedds

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raskul

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BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions.

It is my only original message I've got instant ban for:

Quote

Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?

Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs.

I was also banned for "uncomfortable questions". They promised to take the ban down but I am still being blocked.

why bother posting this in a self moderated topic?
it'll only get deleted!

patrip

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Quote from: minerbobbert on March 10, 2018, 12:45:55 PM

Quote from: patrip on March 09, 2018, 08:28:18 AM

To ensure a constant profit. Reliability is a very important factor when one offers a service. People love earning every month more but they hate earning less. I'm asking because they mentioned in the contract the issues of rigs breacking but didnt go into strategies to overbridge such technical issues. It's just a question out of curiosity:)

I don't think you understand mining.

Due to difficulty increases, mining equipment is continually going out of date. If you left spares hanging around, they are depreciating daily.

Steady payouts are determined by number of blocks found and variance.

It would be very poor planning to leave working equipment unplugged just to be able to replace defective miners to ensure a consistent hash rate.

Yea i dnt know alot about mining. This is the first mining project that i find interesting enough to particupate. So apologies for some silly questions Cheesy

minerbobbert

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Quote from: patrip on March 09, 2018, 08:28:18 AM

To ensure a constant profit. Reliability is a very important factor when one offers a service. People love earning every month more but they hate earning less. I'm asking because they mentioned in the contract the issues of rigs breacking but didnt go into strategies to overbridge such technical issues. It's just a question out of curiosity:)

I don't think you understand mining.

Due to difficulty increases, mining equipment is continually going out of date. If you left spares hanging around, they are depreciating daily.

Steady payouts are determined by number of blocks found and variance.

It would be very poor planning to leave working equipment unplugged just to be able to replace defective miners to ensure a consistent hash rate.

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: patrip on March 09, 2018, 05:09:15 AM

Another question, if a mining rig breaks down, do you keep spare rigs to prevent profit loss while they get repaired/replaced?

firstly they will be repaired if it is possible. If not just be replaced.

patrip

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To ensure a constant profit. Reliability is a very important factor when one offers a service. People love earning every month more but they hate earning less. I'm asking because they mentioned in the contract the issues of rigs breacking but didnt go into strategies to overbridge such technical issues. It's just a question out of curiosity:)

minerbobbert

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Quote from: patrip on March 09, 2018, 05:09:15 AM

Another question, if a mining rig breaks down, do you keep spare rigs to prevent profit loss while they get repaired/replaced?

That's a silly question. Why would you keep a spare around not mining?

patrip

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Another question, if a mining rig breaks down, do you keep spare rigs to prevent profit loss while they get repaired/replaced?

Sindbad

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Calidude

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Quote from: dias.kurmanov on March 07, 2018, 09:16:15 AM

We have 2 ways.
1 - just pay via smart contract. (no need any log in)
2 - make a dashboard for payments. (needs log in and token transfer to dashboard)

ICO dashboard just reflects your token. It cannot manage tokens. Just sends it to your wallet after your transaction. So there is no hard needment for 2FA but, people are asking 2FA so we gave our devs issue to set 2FA on our dashboard and they are working on that.

Hi Dias, I agree that as far as payment goes if it is direct by way of smart contract to ERC20 address it is fine.

However there is always the risk that if someone's PC is compromised, an attacker could log in as them and change the smart contract address to their own.

So thanks for asking the Devs to have it added.

In Crypto, too much security is barely enough. Wink

freemind1

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When you buy tokens, you must indicate to which ETH address they are sent @Bushido1. The tokens are not sent to the address you used to buy them.

Bushido1

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If I change the wallet address from dashboard, do I get ETH to the new address or only to previously used address?
If I have bought ROCK2 tokens with Ethereum address of Coinbase, do I receive ETH without problems? I understand that ROCK2 is unavailable at Coinbase.

icoForensicReports

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Howdy all,

Quote from: icoForensicReports on February 09, 2018, 06:37:43 PM

Still unsure about investing in Ice Rock Mining?

Please read a detailed analysis report here:
https://icoforensicreports.tumblr.com/post/170698385383/forensic-analysis-of-ice-rock-mining-2nd-ico

Thanks.

I have updated the above report with some document translations. Enjoy!

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: Calidude on March 07, 2018, 08:07:20 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 06:00:35 AM

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One

If their PR is "bald-faced" or in other words just plain FUD, why fucken post it in the first place if you are an investor?

I would have banned you from the Telegram as well for talking shit.

Quote from: Calidude on March 06, 2018, 09:34:30 AM

Once Question from me though Dias I was reading your Reddit and someone has asked the question.

Will all payments be recorded on this log-in that investors have now or will there be a new dashboard?

And secondly, why is there no 2FA option on the ICO site as of now?

Dias, can you answer these two question please?

We have 2 ways.
1 - just pay via smart contract. (no need any log in)
2 - make a dashboard for payments. (needs log in and token transfer to dashboard)

ICO dashboard just reflects your token. It cannot manage tokens. Just sends it to your wallet after your transaction. So there is no hard needment for 2FA but, people are asking 2FA so we gave our devs issue to set 2FA on our dashboard and they are working on that.

Bushido1

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Quote from: Calidude on March 07, 2018, 08:07:20 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 06:00:35 AM

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One

If their PR is "bald-faced" or in other words just plain FUD, why fucken post it in the first place if you are an investor?

I would have banned you from the Telegram as well for talking shit.

I posted it because I came to this conclusion after the opinion of Dias Kurmanov. I wanted to be sure if I have chosen the right passive income.

Calidude

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Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 06:00:35 AM

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One

If their PR is "bald-faced" or in other words just plain FUD, why fucken post it in the first place if you are an investor?

I would have banned you from the Telegram as well for talking shit.

Quote from: Calidude on March 06, 2018, 09:34:30 AM

Once Question from me though Dias I was reading your Reddit and someone has asked the question.

Will all payments be recorded on this log-in that investors have now or will there be a new dashboard?

And secondly, why is there no 2FA option on the ICO site as of now?

Dias, can you answer these two question please?

Bushido1

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Quote from: dias.kurmanov on March 07, 2018, 06:57:50 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 06:00:35 AM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on March 07, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 03:34:52 AM

Hello!

Can you please be so kind and comment the opinion of Head of Community Support of Miner One?

"A detailed review of Ice Rock's white paper by our data centre experts reveals shortcomings of the project that are not only uneconomical but, frankly, dangerous from a safety standpoint - such as their belief that a cave with an average temperature of 12C doesn't need massive ventilation equipment. This simply shows a lack of expertise. Without extensive ventilation, the cave will heat up from the miners. This oversight means their cost estimates could be way off, not to mention the safety problems this will create. We stand by that assessment 100% and sincerely hope they will revise their plan to take this into account, including the cost this will add. They need someone on their team who actually knows how to build such a large data centre, including proper ventilation and cooling. Right now they don't have anyone like that.
If they had a plan for ventilation, it should have been in their White Paper. Right now their White Paper says nothing will need to be built because the cave has "natural cooling" (p. 8 ). So how much cost will this new ventilation equipment add? Where is that discussed?
A guy standing in a cave making vague statements about Old Soviet Technology and some primitive pipe doesn't cut it.
So, they are even saying their cost estimates assume no ventilation is needed.
Sorry, you're saying this company wants to raise millions of dollars from investors all around the world but can't be bothered to hire someone to write a proper White Paper and properly estimate costs and equipment needs? Does that sound serious to you?"

I, as one of the investor of IceRockMining, am now concerned due to the fact that your white paper does not include any sentence about ventilation shafts. I really appreciate if my concern is addressed.

Hello, Sir ))) These guys just doing shitty marketing

Thanks to them their backers coming to Ice Rock, making REAL comparing and become our investors.

We don't have such problems that minerone trying to show.

Black PR is PR too

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One (I do not post the link here because perhaps then I shall be double blocked Grin

) who compared you with themselves. After I shared my question which included the link to this review, I was blocked. Why asking an opinion is worth blocking? As far as I know, there are no rules which forbid asking questions that include links of your rivals.
I wondered, is there any possibility to unblock me at Telegram? Cause now I know that posting links/questions regarding your rivals is like an unwritten law and I shall not ask any more anything regarding your rivals at your Telegram chat.

please give me your telegram ID

I sent it as a personal message but it did not wen't through because https://www.upload.ee/image/8144826/[Suspicious link removed].
So, here is my telegram ID: @Bushido1234

dias.kurmanov

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 06:00:35 AM

Quote from: dias.kurmanov on March 07, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 03:34:52 AM

Hello!

Can you please be so kind and comment the opinion of Head of Community Support of Miner One?

"A detailed review of Ice Rock's white paper by our data centre experts reveals shortcomings of the project that are not only uneconomical but, frankly, dangerous from a safety standpoint - such as their belief that a cave with an average temperature of 12C doesn't need massive ventilation equipment. This simply shows a lack of expertise. Without extensive ventilation, the cave will heat up from the miners. This oversight means their cost estimates could be way off, not to mention the safety problems this will create. We stand by that assessment 100% and sincerely hope they will revise their plan to take this into account, including the cost this will add. They need someone on their team who actually knows how to build such a large data centre, including proper ventilation and cooling. Right now they don't have anyone like that.
If they had a plan for ventilation, it should have been in their White Paper. Right now their White Paper says nothing will need to be built because the cave has "natural cooling" (p. 8 ). So how much cost will this new ventilation equipment add? Where is that discussed?
A guy standing in a cave making vague statements about Old Soviet Technology and some primitive pipe doesn't cut it.
So, they are even saying their cost estimates assume no ventilation is needed.
Sorry, you're saying this company wants to raise millions of dollars from investors all around the world but can't be bothered to hire someone to write a proper White Paper and properly estimate costs and equipment needs? Does that sound serious to you?"

I, as one of the investor of IceRockMining, am now concerned due to the fact that your white paper does not include any sentence about ventilation shafts. I really appreciate if my concern is addressed.

Hello, Sir ))) These guys just doing shitty marketing

Thanks to them their backers coming to Ice Rock, making REAL comparing and become our investors.

We don't have such problems that minerone trying to show.

Black PR is PR too

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One (I do not post the link here because perhaps then I shall be double blocked Grin

) who compared you with themselves. After I shared my question which included the link to this review, I was blocked. Why asking an opinion is worth blocking? As far as I know, there are no rules which forbid asking questions that include links of your rivals.
I wondered, is there any possibility to unblock me at Telegram? Cause now I know that posting links/questions regarding your rivals is like an unwritten law and I shall not ask any more anything regarding your rivals at your Telegram chat.

please give me your telegram ID

Bushido1

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Quote from: dias.kurmanov on March 07, 2018, 05:01:37 AM

Quote from: Bushido1 on March 07, 2018, 03:34:52 AM

Hello!

Can you please be so kind and comment the opinion of Head of Community Support of Miner One?

"A detailed review of Ice Rock's white paper by our data centre experts reveals shortcomings of the project that are not only uneconomical but, frankly, dangerous from a safety standpoint - such as their belief that a cave with an average temperature of 12C doesn't need massive ventilation equipment. This simply shows a lack of expertise. Without extensive ventilation, the cave will heat up from the miners. This oversight means their cost estimates could be way off, not to mention the safety problems this will create. We stand by that assessment 100% and sincerely hope they will revise their plan to take this into account, including the cost this will add. They need someone on their team who actually knows how to build such a large data centre, including proper ventilation and cooling. Right now they don't have anyone like that.
If they had a plan for ventilation, it should have been in their White Paper. Right now their White Paper says nothing will need to be built because the cave has "natural cooling" (p. 8 ). So how much cost will this new ventilation equipment add? Where is that discussed?
A guy standing in a cave making vague statements about Old Soviet Technology and some primitive pipe doesn't cut it.
So, they are even saying their cost estimates assume no ventilation is needed.
Sorry, you're saying this company wants to raise millions of dollars from investors all around the world but can't be bothered to hire someone to write a proper White Paper and properly estimate costs and equipment needs? Does that sound serious to you?"

I, as one of the investor of IceRockMining, am now concerned due to the fact that your white paper does not include any sentence about ventilation shafts. I really appreciate if my concern is addressed.

Hello, Sir ))) These guys just doing shitty marketing

Thanks to them their backers coming to Ice Rock, making REAL comparing and become our investors.

We don't have such problems that minerone trying to show.

Black PR is PR too

I tend agree with you. Their Black PR is bald-faced.
I have another concern - I have been (automatically?) blocked in your Telegram group because I asked about opinion about the latest comparison of Miner One (I do not post the link here because perhaps then I shall be double blocked Grin

) who compared you with themselves. After I shared my question which included the link to this review, I was blocked. Why asking an opinion is worth blocking? As far as I know, there are no rules which forbid asking questions that include links of your rivals.
I wondered, is there any possibility to unblock me at Telegram? Cause now I know that posting links/questions regarding your rivals is like an unwritten law and I shall not ask any more anything regarding your rivals at your Telegram chat.

dias.kurmanov

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Activity: 588

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"Ice Rock Mining - Lifetime Profit"

Quote from: kuranggizi on March 07, 2018, 01:24:47 AM

a good promotion by developing a bounty campaign on this project, but I do not see the allocation of funds or total supply of coins from this project, where I can see the specifications of the coin from this project?

https://etherscan.io/token/0xC16b542ff490e01fcc0DC58a60e1EFdc3e357cA6#balances

here we go

total is 20,000,000

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