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Topic: ☑ [ANN] ☰ [ ICO 06|04|2017 ] ☰ Humaniq — Discover the unbanked - page 190. (Read 272379 times)

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Why do you think HumanIQ is sybil-attack resistant? Or fake photo resistant? Or fake audio resistant?

What if I show a photo of my grand-grand-parent, that is already dead, and modify my voice using audio editor ?
How can your algorithm tell me fake account from a real person?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that 'proof-of-face' is 99% accurate, while we need 100% accuracy. I can't allow a 1% chance, that my neighbor will steal my money. How can you defend your system from technical point of view?

How do you protect against spoofing ?

They've been avoiding answering this at all cost.



I think for the platform to work they would required more than photo/face identification. There is a way to game the software in this regard and I can see people taking advantage of this loopholes in the system
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Why do you think HumanIQ is sybil-attack resistant? Or fake photo resistant? Or fake audio resistant?

What if I show a photo of my grand-grand-parent, that is already dead, and modify my voice using audio editor ?
How can your algorithm tell me fake account from a real person?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that 'proof-of-face' is 99% accurate, while we need 100% accuracy. I can't allow a 1% chance, that my neighbor will steal my money. How can you defend your system from technical point of view?

How do you protect against spoofing ?

They've been avoiding answering this at all cost.

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I love the wallet and app.

So I am assuming these 100 coins I received on opening an account is testnet coins right and that it will be reset on launch?

100 coins is a lot to give away for sign up. I suggest lowering this amount a little bit otherwise people in third world countries might start 'farming faces', by signing up anyone on the street.


Here is my feedback from a user perspective:

 - The door icon to sign in is a little confusing and to me I first thought it was a button to just close the app or something. Took me a little while to figure out how to sign back in.

 - I like the sending screen. very cool.  Would be nice if the addresses where human readable and if we could put a persons phone number in the sending thing instead of a private key would be killer imo.

 Thats is for now. I will update if I notice anything else.

Good Luck with the project. unfortunately I do not have any crypto at the moment to invest.
- Peace and Love
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Why do you think HumanIQ is sybil-attack resistant? Or fake photo resistant? Or fake audio resistant?

What if I show a photo of my grand-grand-parent, that is already dead, and modify my voice using audio editor ?
How can your algorithm tell me fake account from a real person?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that 'proof-of-face' is 99% accurate, while we need 100% accuracy. I can't allow a 1% chance, that my neighbor will steal my money. How can you defend your system from technical point of view?

How do you protect against spoofing ?
legendary
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How many tokens have been sold out in pre ico which started from yesterday?
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Humaniq Releases 2nd Iteration of Financial Services App
Humaniq, a blockchain-powered financial services app, announced the creation of a pre-order fund for their upcoming ICO, due to exceptionally high demand. The pre-order page will go live on Humaniq’s site on March 29th, a full eight days before the ICO begins on April 6th. The Humaniq ICO will award bonuses for participants who join early, with both BTC and ETH being accepted as methods of payment. The pre-order fund will exclusively be accessed via bank transfers for participants who want to use traditional currencies. All currencies will be accepted, so participants do not need to worry about holding dollars, euros, or pounds.More
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Been done already and they already fucking huge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa


also using Vitalik Buterin's picture supposedly as one of your "experts" and calling him Ivan Tihonov is just lame.

http://futurefintech.org/


You fail at scamming.

PATHETIC.

Scam project. He said:

MY PERSONAL BLOCKCHAIN STORY  

2013 — wrote a book “Bitcoin. More than money”
2014-2016 — was a speaker at dozens of fintech conferences

But what is his name, never mentioned, conferences speaker? Tell us his name or it seems a joke. Dev you should tell us more info, like name, if you wanna raise money.

You will find his name in this report
Look for Alex Fork

https://medium.com/@classicether/soundchain-dapp-reveal-raises-red-flags-89276d683585

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Looks good to me , but won't invest and lock my btc down during altcoin season
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My thoughts after reading the paper: I think the intention of banking unbanked people is good and should be pursued. But, I think that the people and organizations pursuing this should be foundations, volunteers and governments. For example the UN or the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation ($40B+ fund) is more suited to give $10 to 2B people, they could actually pay for it.

If you want to wait for them to take the action, then wait. We don't believe in waiting - we believe in action. If we can prove what we doing is viable then we can prove to them it can be done. Then we are more than happy to partner with the likes of the UN, World Bank, and Foundation such as Gates. But saying that we should push a proposal forward using a yet untested technology at these kinds of institutions is a waste of time. They have safer, less risky investments to deal with. These are risk averse sources of funding, they are not VC.

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The main technological value I see you may develop is doing secure cryptographic signatures in a smartphone, more precisely, storing a private key securely, even if the device was stolen or lost and the memory was removed and sniffed. Also an app can be reverse-engineered, so your app needs to be resistant to that. Those are security problems that are unsolved unless you use a long password and encrypt the private key with it, I don't see how you are securing a private key without a password here. The software to do facial and voice authentication is definitely valuable, on my own searches I haven't found 3rd parties that do this well which is part of the reason pretty much no one is using facial and voice authentication on money apps. Iris and fingerprints are more common but less secure that a password.

Agree. To a point. We secure it on a central server until we have the technology to do otherwise. And that does not exist yet.

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In the paper I read that this is not a charity, therefore (1) how do I make money as an investor in this token? Why are you pushing a new currency when these communities live in countries with an established fiat currency, (2) Wouldn't it make more sense to just digitize that already accepted currency?. (3) How are you going to finance this development after you burn through the pre-ico and ico money, do you have a business model? (no business model found on the paper). And finally (4) What smartphones cost $10-$20 and how are these going to be distributed or sold in developing nations.

Actually the project will be run out of a foundation - which will control and hold all the core software stack similar to Ethereum or DECENT. There will also be a 'profit with a purpose' corporation which will develop and fund development via an accelerator and incubator programme investing in Blockchain startups to build on top of the stack to create more services for the end users.

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From my experience living in a developing country, one that is dark in the maps shown in your paper, the only communication infrastructure that many villages and small cities do have is cellular. So these people can call and text on pre-paid telephony plans. Most of them have access to basic phones with no internet and wouldn't afford a wireless internet plan if they had a smartphone. So I'm guessing that for this to work on a massive scale you would need to partner up with telecommunication companies so they give these people access to data related with your app/domains for free (which is what internet.org is doing) and sell them a smartphone for the price of a basic phone that shows their native currency in the app. A way to withdraw those electronic funds in cash would also be good for the money in the app to be accepted as money. For now, I think cash works very well for these places.

Personally I have thought about this alot. And when I was in Nairobi in Kibera, I realised we could be at the mercy of telcos in the country. However, I also know that we are months away from using k-band low orbiting satellite solutions with cheap receiver technology such as Kymeta (Bill Gates backed) which can allow us to bypass the telcos and pull in broadband via the sky. There would be perhaps some regulatory issues - but it's also a chance for Gates to put his stamp on it if we use Kymeta and let's see them fight that war. Telco has their lobbyists in Nairobi in government and all governments but strangling the people from lower cost Internet is a losing war.

If we were to do Kibera - Africa's largest slum, I would come in with a dozen receivers, empower the huts selling mPesa and give them one along with the banking function to convert HMQ to Kenyan Shillings and they become de facto broadband suppliers as well as bankers.

That's just an idea. It's not in our milestones or set in stone. It's one way I have been thinking about how to tackle this.

Best

Richard Kastelein
Interim CMO
Humaniq
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I'm very glad that here on forum there are experienced users who can do all these investigations, as I started to read and it

sounded interesting until I started to read comments and it made me smile, just wondering what a good fantasy people can

have. Roll Eyes

experienced user must go further for giving good briefing to those who are like me .. Roll Eyes Shocked
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My thoughts after reading the paper: I think the intention of banking unbanked people is good and should be pursued. But, I think that the people and organizations pursuing this should be foundations, volunteers and governments. For example the UN or the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation ($40B+ fund) is more suited to give $10 to 2B people, they could actually pay for it.

The main technological value I see you may develop is doing secure cryptographic signatures in a smartphone, more precisely, storing a private key securely, even if the device was stolen or lost and the memory was removed and sniffed. Also an app can be reverse-engineered, so your app needs to be resistant to that. Those are security problems that are unsolved unless you use a long password and encrypt the private key with it, I don't see how you are securing a private key without a password here. The software to do facial and voice authentication is definitely valuable, on my own searches I haven't found 3rd parties that do this well which is part of the reason pretty much no one is using facial and voice authentication on money apps. Iris and fingerprints are more common but less secure that a password.

In the paper I read that this is not a charity, therefore (1) how do I make money as an investor in this token? Why are you pushing a new currency when these communities live in countries with an established fiat currency, (2) Wouldn't it make more sense to just digitize that already accepted currency?. (3) How are you going to finance this development after you burn through the pre-ico and ico money, do you have a business model? (no business model found on the paper). And finally (4) What smartphones cost $10-$20 and how are these going to be distributed or sold in developing nations.

From my experience living in a developing country, one that is dark in the maps shown in your paper, the only communication infrastructure that many villages and small cities do have is cellular. So these people can call and text on pre-paid telephony plans. Most of them have access to basic phones with no internet and wouldn't afford a wireless internet plan if they had a smartphone. So I'm guessing that for this to work on a massive scale you would need to partner up with telecommunication companies so they give these people access to data related with your app/domains for free (which is what internet.org is doing) and sell them a smartphone for the price of a basic phone that shows their native currency in the app. A way to withdraw those electronic funds in cash would also be good for the money in the app to be accepted as money. For now, I think cash works very well for these places.


Humaniq.co, could you answer this asap? I'm also from a developing country and although in different conditions of those presented by Dalovar, I have almost the same doubts.

Best regards.




Dalovar: Institutions like B&M sucks worse than VCs, for they not only want your money...
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It looks very interesting, I think I'm in.
Waiting for more informaton about ICO and the smart-contract.
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Today I saw a Humaniq advertisement in facebook. Doing great so far eh. I expect Humaniq to collect at least 2000 btc.

I also have good hope for this project this team is doing wonderful job and participating in all important events and meetups. Just few days left for this ICO will start.
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In this week I not see humaniq in theviralexchange, whether promotion ended?

It seems they have limited budget for this promo even I also didn't get succeed to earn any token there.

I read somewhere they are offering 50,000 tokens in a blockchain conference in Europe. So I think their marketing is more on actual meet ups most probably. And we all know the Ethereum community is powerful and big enough to meet their target.
today I see humaniq in theviralexchange  Grin

http://image.prntscr.com/image/6da477c96a5d4051a4500f316382e5a9.png

Today I saw a Humaniq advertisement in facebook. Doing great so far eh. I expect Humaniq to collect at least 2000 btc.
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In this week I not see humaniq in theviralexchange, whether promotion ended?

It seems they have limited budget for this promo even I also didn't get succeed to earn any token there.

I read somewhere they are offering 50,000 tokens in a blockchain conference in Europe. So I think their marketing is more on actual meet ups most probably. And we all know the Ethereum community is powerful and big enough to meet their target.
today I see humaniq in theviralexchange  Grin

http://image.prntscr.com/image/6da477c96a5d4051a4500f316382e5a9.png
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In this week I not see humaniq in theviralexchange, whether promotion ended?

It seems they have limited budget for this promo even I also didn't get succeed to earn any token there.

when The Humaniq ICO will be completed ? and why you didn't success to earn humaniq token there, i just open my viral account today and everything goes well even though i just got 1 retweet
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Public account for Humaniq start up
We have no certain amount of issuing HMQ tokens. It depends on how many of them will be bought during ICO. Moreover after ICO is finished HMQs are to be traded on crypo-exchange. We will announce it, guys. No worries.



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This project on Ethereum platform has my curiousity killed the cat. If it really takes a good roadmap to implement it , so awesome will be in terms of features and the longevity of its usefulness towards human routine.
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