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Topic: 【ANN】 【ICO LIVE !】 🔥WWAM🔥 - Decentralized messaging protocol - page 38. (Read 27033 times)

full member
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I don't see platform getting any traction, without mobile app implementation

As far as I know, they will not make the actual app rather they will seek the implementation of the protocol inside other apps such as marketplaces, exchanges and other platforms. In other words, WWAM would not directly create anonymity message applications but instead they have a protocol for anonymous messaging which can be use by other people.

P.s This is from my own understanding only.
full member
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Hello,

The project seems interesting. Everything related to Anonymity is quite successful in the cryptocurrency field.

Do you have any competitor in this sector ?

If yes, can you make a quick comparizon between your offer and theirs ?

Thank you  Smiley

There's no way a chat app is getting funded. There are already so many options for anonymous communication.

Good thing that we are not a chat app then Smiley.

As far as we know, there's no project currently proposing to implement a whole blockchain based technology dedicated to a messaging protocol.
Security and privacy shouldn't be a competition in our opinion. We encourage any open source project based on decentralized mechanisms, even if their goal is similar to ours.
It should not be about profit but more about making software engineering progress towards a greater goal, which is strengthening privacy and anonymity.

I understand your point of view. But since there is an ICO, investors are thinking about profit and not directly about the good that your project can bring to the communication field. That's why I asked this question. Your answer enlight the fact that you're not running after profits, which is a good point from my point of view.
full member
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Ready yourselves coz WWAM's about to open their Initial Coin Offering.



legendary
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Q:
I am struggling to understand what the ERC20 tokens will represent. An ERC20 will be used to gather funds, investors will send you ETH and they will get WWAM token (?) but how this WWAM token will be tied to the success of the project? Since the nodes, ledger with the info and fees will be in a new blockchain the ERC20 tokens will not be useful to end users, how will they carry their value?

A:
The contract is actually including an interface to make the tokens upgrade-able. This give us the possibility to issue a child contract (tied to the main contract) on the Ethereum blockchain when the time comes , allowing users to switch to new tokens. These new tokens will be burnable in exchange of the WWAM currency running in our blockchain, givng WWAM a full autonomy, running on it's own without depending on Ethereum.

Can you please explain why you didn't go the "normal way" i.e. issuing the tokens only when the ico is successfull and ended?

At this time I see this only as a marketing strategy, but without real value. Thanks for explaining me what I don't see...

hero member
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I don't see platform getting any traction, without mobile app implementation

This has been answered at least 3 times in the last 2 pages ...
full member
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They want to make a real decentralized platform to protect the privacy of users, they took the exemple of the success of IRC to show the possible success of WWAM.
Everyone need to discuss and IT is made for that, i think we have a big lack of privacy this time and project like WWAM is necessary to fill this gap.

real privacy is very hard to archieve nowadays. But that's the point.. starting in this branch today might cash out in some years in multiple ways!

Today many people don't care about that, but exactly they are someday the first ones that regret it most being lazy with that.
Yeah , they already said it in whitepaper.

"WWAM is a long-term project. We are still at the very early stages of development"

For me, this is very interesting project and worth for the long term.
Good luck dev
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I don't see platform getting any traction, without mobile app implementation
sr. member
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They want to make a real decentralized platform to protect the privacy of users, they took the exemple of the success of IRC to show the possible success of WWAM.
Everyone need to discuss and IT is made for that, i think we have a big lack of privacy this time and project like WWAM is necessary to fill this gap.

real privacy is very hard to archieve nowadays. But that's the point.. starting in this branch today might cash out in some years in multiple ways!

Today many people don't care about that, but exactly they are someday the first ones that regret it most being lazy with that.
sr. member
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Hello,

The project seems interesting. Everything related to Anonymity is quite successful in the cryptocurrency field.

Do you have any competitor in this sector ?

If yes, can you make a quick comparizon between your offer and theirs ?

Thank you  Smiley

There's no way a chat app is getting funded. There are already so many options for anonymous communication.

Good thing that we are not a chat app then Smiley.

As far as we know, there's no project currently proposing to implement a whole blockchain based technology dedicated to a messaging protocol.
Security and privacy shouldn't be a competition in our opinion. We encourage any open source project based on decentralized mechanisms, even if their goal is similar to ours.
It should not be about profit but more about making software engineering progress towards a greater goal, which is strengthening privacy and anonymity.

As I see it, the key point is the use of the blockchain. It's obvious there are several solutions for encrypted end to end communication but the use of a blockchain system is what makes this project truly interesting.
hero member
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You can invest in the project simply by sending ETH to the contract address 0x59a048d31d72b98dfb10f91a8905aecda7639f13 and receive your tokens instantly.
Is it already start now?

No, it will start tomorrow at 10 p.m UTC (You can see the live countdown before the beginning here : http://wwam.io/ico
If you send ETH before it starts, you won't receive any token and you will waste gas for nothing  Wink
full member
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They want to make a real decentralized platform to protect the privacy of users, they took the exemple of the success of IRC to show the possible success of WWAM.
Everyone need to discuss and IT is made for that, i think we have a big lack of privacy this time and project like WWAM is necessary to fill this gap.
full member
Activity: 370
Merit: 100

You can invest in the project simply by sending ETH to the contract address 0x59a048d31d72b98dfb10f91a8905aecda7639f13 and receive your tokens instantly.
Is it already start now?
hero member
Activity: 621
Merit: 500
Hello,

The project seems interesting. Everything related to Anonymity is quite successful in the cryptocurrency field.

Do you have any competitor in this sector ?

If yes, can you make a quick comparizon between your offer and theirs ?

Thank you  Smiley

There's no way a chat app is getting funded. There are already so many options for anonymous communication.

Good thing that we are not a chat app then Smiley.

As far as we know, there's no project currently proposing to implement a whole blockchain based technology dedicated to a messaging protocol.
Security and privacy shouldn't be a competition in our opinion. We encourage any open source project based on decentralized mechanisms, even if their goal is similar to ours.
It should not be about profit but more about making software engineering progress towards a greater goal, which is strengthening privacy and anonymity.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
There's no way a chat app is getting funded. There are already so many options for anonymous communication.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
Hello,

The project seems interesting. Everything related to Anonymity is quite successful in the cryptocurrency field.

Do you have any competitor in this sector (using blockchain and cryptos) ?

If yes, can you make a quick comparizon between your offer and theirs ?

Thank you  Smiley
full member
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Of course, what you're saying is true, ISPs have legal obligations and it probably bother some of them to have to monitor their clients against their will. That's why we say it's a necessary evil for some, we do not blame the ISPs for doing what they do (Unless they use this data for commercial usage). However, ISPs might not be able to do anything about it because of the law or pressure from the government, but as a user you can oppose to that by adopting alternative systems of communication such as WWAM for example. End to end encryption can definitely put an end to privacy concerns, however it's the responsibility of the users to massively adopt it (And not only for communication, even if that's what WWAM is about).

Thanks for elaborating. I would suggest you incorporate this greater vision in your summary or in another chapter for a more nuanced story. That might attract a more diverse (and richer) range of investors than the current dystopian evilcorp one (even if it's true Wink).
hero member
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Although I stand behind your cause, I think the summary in the whitepaper is heavy-handed. For example:

"Big internet companies are paying huge sums of money to learn more about their clients activities. Despite the precautions users employ to avoid being tracked, Internet Service Providers (ISP) can still monitor them. It may seem harmless to some people, but most users are resigned to it, and accept it as a necessary evil in this modern world."

In some countries ISPs monitor because they are legally obliged to do so. It's in the ISPs' interest to not bother you too much in order to keep you as their paying customer, but they may be restricted in their freedom by law. So there's also a political aspect, not just an economic one, although the two may overlap. In democratic states, not only government, but also citizens, non-government organizations and business shape the law.

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Some typos in the Whitepaper.

Summary, page 3:

  • clients activities: clients' activities
  • users as nothing more: users are nothing more

Thanks for pointing out the typos, We'll take the time to correct them asap !

Of course, what you're saying is true, ISPs have legal obligations and it probably bother some of them to have to monitor their clients against their will. That's why we say it's a necessary evil for some, we do not blame the ISPs for doing what they do (Unless they use this data for commercial usage). However, ISPs might not be able to do anything about it because of the law or pressure from the government, but as a user you can oppose to that by adopting alternative systems of communication such as WWAM for example. End to end encryption can definitely put an end to privacy concerns, however it's the responsibility of the users to massively adopt it (And not only for communication, even if that's what WWAM is about).
sr. member
Activity: 308
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In some countries ISPs monitor because they are legally obliged to do so. It's in the ISPs' interest to not bother you too much in order to keep you as their paying customer, but they may be restricted in their freedom by law. So there's also a political aspect, not just an economic one, although the two may overlap. In democratic states, not only government, but also citizens, non-government organizations and business shape the law.


You're right. I guess there are simply too many countries, too many states, too many laws to take into account all of them in just one parragraph. The purpose on this project should not be enclosed by any legal environment in particular, but as a declaration of purpose, an ideal target. Once the project is real it will be the governments' task to see if it needs to be limited.
legendary
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The ICO is coming and i can vouch for this one since i am the one who translated the ANN into Filipino language and as promise, the dev paid my translation bounty at the date he set.
I really like this project since i am always online, thru this project i can keep the anonymity of my online activities and my private data will not be needed to register.
It looks like IRC but more added bonuses on security and privacy i would definitely use it when its comes to confidential message. private data really need to be protected at all time since hacker and phishers are always active.
full member
Activity: 574
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Although I stand behind your cause, I think the summary in the whitepaper is heavy-handed. For example:

"Big internet companies are paying huge sums of money to learn more about their clients activities. Despite the precautions users employ to avoid being tracked, Internet Service Providers (ISP) can still monitor them. It may seem harmless to some people, but most users are resigned to it, and accept it as a necessary evil in this modern world."

In some countries ISPs monitor because they are legally obliged to do so. It's in the ISPs' interest to not bother you too much in order to keep you as their paying customer, but they may be restricted in their freedom by law. So there's also a political aspect, not just an economic one, although the two may overlap. In democratic states, not only government, but also citizens, non-government organizations and business shape the law.

--------------------------------------------

Some typos in the Whitepaper.

Summary, page 3:

  • clients activities: clients' activities
  • users as nothing more: users are nothing more
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