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Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 1060. (Read 1253965 times)

hero member
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September 16, 2016, 04:36:22 PM
One thing can be done is to check IP addresses registered at iconomi.net and see if how many accounts were registered under same IPs.
Or anyone if didn't invest in ICO not be able to get any bounties?
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 03:46:17 PM
Its my pleasure to be a part of ICONOMI
I am applied for signature campaign according to the campaign procedure.I have read the rules and requirements and submitted my application through google forms.Hope i will be in the list very soon.
thank you
full member
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September 16, 2016, 03:30:02 PM
I like this project and will look forward to supporting your project in one or more campaigns Wink
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 01:43:52 PM
Hello community,i just joined signature bounty campaign.Hope its not too late to get enrolled for signature bounty.
Thank you
Hello,just in time )  Cheesy
full member
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September 16, 2016, 01:40:50 PM
Hello community,i just joined signature bounty campaign.Hope its not too late to get enrolled for signature bounty.
Thank you
copper member
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September 16, 2016, 01:36:49 PM
@op i want to ask that do the posting on other forum will count as blog posts? becuase i want to post it in different forums?
legendary
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September 16, 2016, 01:15:39 PM
Devs,

Do you have any details on the performance fees charged for ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE and expense ratio for ICONOMI.INDEX?

For ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE, how are returns calculated? Monthly/yearly? What's the benchmark/hurdle rate? Is there a high water mark? Do you have to make up losses before recording a gain to register for the performance fee?
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 01:12:03 PM
Looking forward to trading this ICO.  Looks like it's coming along nicely
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September 16, 2016, 12:23:33 PM
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full member
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September 16, 2016, 12:09:46 PM
Looks like Iconomi is really doing well lately. What are the requirements to be part of their project and to hold shares there ? Can shares be bought with bitcoin for example or are they only POS ?

Man are you serious ?
You've got a link to the ICO in your very signature ......
it is funny.. Grin
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September 16, 2016, 12:07:28 PM
Looks like Iconomi is really doing well lately. What are the requirements to be part of their project and to hold shares there ? Can shares be bought with bitcoin for example or are they only POS ?

Man are you serious ?
You've got a link to the ICO in your very signature ......
hero member
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Hackers please hack me .... if you can :)
September 16, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
Looks like Iconomi is really doing well lately. What are the requirements to be part of their project and to hold shares there ? Can shares be bought with bitcoin for example or are they only POS ?
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
i saw iconomi is doing great job, so i decided to join their sig campaign, but i want to ask is it mandatory to invest in iconomi? and also do i need to create an account on ICONOMI ICO?

If you join twitter and facebook campaign, you just need to sign up there, log in and get your stakes there. Finally you will get bounty coins there.
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 11:31:28 AM
Iconomi, you just retweeted an article from Smith and Crown.  That article's first point is: "Due to the crowdsale structure and ICONOMI’s business model, ICONOMI will not return value to token holders until it’s generated as much money in fees as it raised in the ICO, what at time of writing is just north of $4.5 million. This will likely take many years. (1)"

Is this true?? This seems to contradict everything that has been said thus far.  Do they mean won't return the full value, or won't return any value (as in no dividends)?

Read the footnote (1) at the bottom of the article.

*"Smith+Crown’s back-of-the-envelope calculations: assuming a 1.5% management fee (based on net assets) for management investment, one would need a total seed fund of $300 million to hit this threshold. Assuming a .5% fee for a passive ETF-like investment, one would need $900 million invested, which is 7.5% of the entire cryptocurrency market today. These fees are industry average fees for traditional financial products today, which only cover operational fees. ICONOMI fees will need to cover both fees and dividends. Even with a distribution of this over time, sufficient revenue to pay back investors seems unlikely. For example, if 1% of the entire cryptocurrency market went through ICONOMI funds (half in a CMF and half in a CTF), and a full quarter of industry-standard management fees actually went to dividends, then ICN tokenholders would wait 15 years before $4.5 million was returned, even without adjusting for inflation or discounting to present value."

It seems to me they aren't right in the calculations. My mathematics, shows absolutely other figures.


This is fantastic news.  Everyone gather 'round and listen up!  LiskQH is going to share his mathematics to dispel these inaccuracies expressed in the article!

They also plan on charging fees for performance goals which is typical of a managed performance style fund. These fees could and generally are much higher and a percentage of the gain above a predefined threshold. This would increase revenue and potentially profit greatly. Also remember when the OFM is up and running both fund managers and participants will be paying fees for platform usage. All I’m saying is that the calculation isn’t as simple as they indicate.
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September 16, 2016, 11:19:15 AM
i saw iconomi is doing great job, so i decided to join their sig campaign, but i want to ask is it mandatory to invest in iconomi? and also do i need to create an account on ICONOMI ICO?
full member
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September 16, 2016, 10:58:06 AM
after reading the entire thing

If you were me, would you invest?

What is the main point which lead you to invest in this ico but not others?

Thanks, thinking to invest around $100 but still unclear whether its an A+ project or not
1. No one if forcing you to invest.
2. If you have even slightest doubt about this project, then you should not risk your money.
3. So far ICONOMI team is pretty on point with explaining nuances, strategy and future of this project - which is very good sign that it will indeed will be successful.
4. Which other ICO you considered as investment option beside ICONOMI? I doubt they are bigger at this point.


yes I agree , no one forcing to invest , it is investors own risk , but  I have seen iconomi is doing good , and it is an great project on crowd funding , there are so many good opinions on iconomi by lot of investors .
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 10:55:17 AM
Iconomi, you just retweeted an article from Smith and Crown.  That article's first point is: "Due to the crowdsale structure and ICONOMI’s business model, ICONOMI will not return value to token holders until it’s generated as much money in fees as it raised in the ICO, what at time of writing is just north of $4.5 million. This will likely take many years. (1)"

Is this true?? This seems to contradict everything that has been said thus far.  Do they mean won't return the full value, or won't return any value (as in no dividends)?

Read the footnote (1) at the bottom of the article.

*"Smith+Crown’s back-of-the-envelope calculations: assuming a 1.5% management fee (based on net assets) for management investment, one would need a total seed fund of $300 million to hit this threshold. Assuming a .5% fee for a passive ETF-like investment, one would need $900 million invested, which is 7.5% of the entire cryptocurrency market today. These fees are industry average fees for traditional financial products today, which only cover operational fees. ICONOMI fees will need to cover both fees and dividends. Even with a distribution of this over time, sufficient revenue to pay back investors seems unlikely. For example, if 1% of the entire cryptocurrency market went through ICONOMI funds (half in a CMF and half in a CTF), and a full quarter of industry-standard management fees actually went to dividends, then ICN tokenholders would wait 15 years before $4.5 million was returned, even without adjusting for inflation or discounting to present value."

It seems to me they aren't right in the calculations. My mathematics, shows absolutely other figures.
hero member
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September 16, 2016, 10:43:39 AM
Iconomi, you just retweeted an article from Smith and Crown.  That article's first point is: "Due to the crowdsale structure and ICONOMI’s business model, ICONOMI will not return value to token holders until it’s generated as much money in fees as it raised in the ICO, what at time of writing is just north of $4.5 million. This will likely take many years. (1)"

Is this true?? This seems to contradict everything that has been said thus far.  Do they mean won't return the full value, or won't return any value (as in no dividends)?

Can you point to an address for that article? Thx!


http://www.smithandcrown.com/summary-iconomis-ongoing-ico/
sr. member
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September 16, 2016, 10:43:23 AM
Iconomi, you just retweeted an article from Smith and Crown.  That article's first point is: "Due to the crowdsale structure and ICONOMI’s business model, ICONOMI will not return value to token holders until it’s generated as much money in fees as it raised in the ICO, what at time of writing is just north of $4.5 million. This will likely take many years. (1)"

Is this true?? This seems to contradict everything that has been said thus far.  Do they mean won't return the full value, or won't return any value (as in no dividends)?

Can you point to an address for that article? Thx!

http://www.smithandcrown.com/summary-iconomis-ongoing-ico/
sr. member
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September 16, 2016, 10:42:21 AM
Iconomi, you just retweeted an article from Smith and Crown.  That article's first point is: "Due to the crowdsale structure and ICONOMI’s business model, ICONOMI will not return value to token holders until it’s generated as much money in fees as it raised in the ICO, what at time of writing is just north of $4.5 million. This will likely take many years. (1)"

Is this true?? This seems to contradict everything that has been said thus far.  Do they mean won't return the full value, or won't return any value (as in no dividends)?

Can you point to an address for that article? Thx!
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