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Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 1094. (Read 1253965 times)

sr. member
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September 10, 2016, 11:21:10 PM
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup

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We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!

This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.

Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered

The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.

This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox

Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard.

Any news of the whitepaper on storage of assets?

no yet, may be soon, let them do the ico first, and then whitepaper
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 11:17:50 PM
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup

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We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!

This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.

Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered

The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.

This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox

Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard.

Any news of the whitepaper on storage of assets?
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 11:05:51 PM

Yeah there is was go too fast i think. As we know, ICONOMI Vol Rising fast with huge growing days to days, week to week. Have no more words for thats Cheesy
hero member
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Think or swim.
September 10, 2016, 10:34:33 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.

It is around 6700 btc raised, next lisk or waves? Let iconomi be lisk from ico profit, don't be like waves or rise scams.

lol the most fail ico ever is waves sh*t!!
And the one who scam so many investors in that coins and the next is rise, but hopefully this iconomi will not br the same to that shit coins


There's simply no comparison
legendary
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September 10, 2016, 10:27:43 PM
I applied for signature bounty and worn signature but my name is not in spreedsheet Huh
Your signature is broken , change your signature with the correct one. And apply again after that wait until your application accepted.

4,187,376.08 USD invested so far,its really a huge amount. just want to contribute a little,so i'll invest some btc to grave the 5% bonus,still 4 days to go.
Yeah , i'm also the part of investor . This project seems promising , and still has 4 days for 5% bonus.

I was lucky  join in the first week at least I will get 15% bonus  Grin I remain convinced to this project hopefully as expected
What are your predictions related to the total funds collected towards the last week , if reached 6M USD ?
x4
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.

It is around 6700 btc raised, next lisk or waves? Let iconomi be lisk from ico profit, don't be like waves or rise scams.

lol the most fail ico ever is waves sh*t!!
And the one who scam so many investors in that coins and the next is rise, but hopefully this iconomi will not br the same to that shit coins
member
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September 10, 2016, 09:28:43 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.

It is around 6700 btc raised, next lisk or waves? Let iconomi be lisk from ico profit, don't be like waves or rise scams.

lol the most fail ico ever is waves sh*t!!

Should be dao, dao was 30% of ico price when the hack news was widely spread. Waves sucks but it is not a scam, they don't run away with 30k btc, haha. Or Russian mafia will kill sasha.
hero member
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Merit: 500
September 10, 2016, 09:24:07 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.

It is around 6700 btc raised, next lisk or waves? Let iconomi be lisk from ico profit, don't be like waves or rise scams.

lol the most fail ico ever is waves sh*t!!
member
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Merit: 10
September 10, 2016, 09:20:57 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.

It is around 6700 btc raised, next lisk or waves? Let iconomi be lisk from ico profit, don't be like waves or rise scams.
member
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September 10, 2016, 09:08:40 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

4.18 M worth usd raised so far, very big and promising project it seems, we gonna explode.
hero member
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Reward: 10M Shen (Approx. 5000 BNB) Bounty
September 10, 2016, 08:54:42 PM
I applied for signature bounty and worn signature but my name is not in spreedsheet Huh
Your signature is broken , change your signature with the correct one. And apply again after that wait until your application accepted.

4,187,376.08 USD invested so far,its really a huge amount. just want to contribute a little,so i'll invest some btc to grave the 5% bonus,still 4 days to go.
Yeah , i'm also the part of investor . This project seems promising , and still has 4 days for 5% bonus.
hero member
Activity: 589
Merit: 502
September 10, 2016, 07:14:20 PM
4,187,376.08 USD invested so far,its really a huge amount. just want to contribute a little,so i'll invest some btc to grave the 5% bonus,still 4 days to go.
sr. member
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Merit: 255
September 10, 2016, 06:47:27 PM
Where can i see the twitter participant list? i didn't understand the newsletter bounty system,how to find my email is quit hard for me to locate my email address,so i donate my newsletter bounty.Hope twitter/facbook bounty will be more easy to claim Embarrassed
It is quite easy first open this spreedsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dSKpNpbECr-F_F-75OTJIJmaiXJPp0PKK9raK3TJBSI/edit#gid=636503125 now in another tab,visit http://www.md5.cz
There you will find a box.In that box just type youremail@com-iconomi-ico (Replace youremail@,com with the email adress you used to subscribe to newsletter) Now hit "Hash Darling hash" button.You will see string of numbers,copy it and find that number in spreedsheet.
okay,thank you. i'll try to find my email by following your step by step guide. sorry i don't have much knowledge,it looks difficult for me but i'll try to find out my email.thanx
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 06:43:16 PM
I applied for signature bounty and worn signature but my name is not in spreedsheet Huh
legendary
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September 10, 2016, 06:33:22 PM
Where can i see the twitter participant list? i didn't understand the newsletter bounty system,how to find my email is quit hard for me to locate my email address,so i donate my newsletter bounty.Hope twitter/facbook bounty will be more easy to claim Embarrassed
It is quite easy first open this spreedsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dSKpNpbECr-F_F-75OTJIJmaiXJPp0PKK9raK3TJBSI/edit#gid=636503125 now in another tab,visit http://www.md5.cz
There you will find a box.In that box just type youremail@com-iconomi-ico (Replace youremail@,com with the email adress you used to subscribe to newsletter) Now hit "Hash Darling hash" button.You will see string of numbers,copy it and find that number in spreedsheet.
sr. member
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September 10, 2016, 06:18:24 PM
Where can i see the twitter participant list? i didn't understand the newsletter bounty system,how to find my email is quit hard for me to locate my email address,so i donate my newsletter bounty.Hope twitter/facbook bounty will be more easy to claim Embarrassed
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 05:39:45 PM
how much the ico rised so far?

I would look at the ICO-page ...
https://ico.iconomi.net/
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 05:33:03 PM
how much the ico rised so far?
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September 10, 2016, 05:26:17 PM
I have read both whitepapers and have quite a finance background. I do not fully understand your concept.

So - what exactly do you buy in the ICO and how does the token / coin profit if:

a) the index fund performs and tracks the market reasonably well or if money flows into the fund;
b) the actively-managed fund outperforms the index or if money flows into the fund;
c) the fund platform gains public acceptance and is used by other participants.

Thanks!

Thx for questions. Since you have quite a finance background this should be easy to understand.


With ICO you buy "shares" of ICONOMI. An Asset Management Company (AMC) that will build ICONOMI.index and ICONOMI.performance funds to start with. And then Fund Management Platform (AirBnB for AMC).

a) index fund performs just the way market performs. S&P 500 performs well when whole economy performans well. When everything goes bust, S&P doesn't work well either. the more money flows in, the more maintanence fees and therfore the more profit.
b) INDEX.performance will invest into "new born companies" in the new economy. ICOs as of now. Here better decision of investment will be more cruical at the beginning. Later more money inflow will be needed as well.
c) that's the ultimate goal. and win for everyone


Thank you for your answer.

a) What will be the management fee (2%)? Are the fees going to be distributed to the shareholders?
b) How much of the profits will remain at ICONOMI (20%)? Are the profits going to be distributed to the shareholders?

--> Hedge funds normally have the 2% / 20% rule.

What percentage of total profits, i.e. generated management fees and profit share, will remain at ICONOMI (not distributed to shareholders)?

c) Why win for everyone?

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