Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 1126. (Read 1253965 times)
If I buy ICO with ETH, I will be exposed to ETH rate? or will it be "tokened" in USD?
The 2000 BTC was a minimum, which is easily crossed.
Did you actually mean the is or is it a typo of it.
only 13 minutes left, lets see if can go till 2000btc.
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
Congratulations!!
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
Congratulations!!
It is over 4k btc now, you don't know math?
Yep i know math, i meaning direct btc incomes.
(i edited previous post).now is 2,050.1065 BTC and rising!
only 13 minutes left, lets see if can go till 2000btc.
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2utq9w8.jpg
Congratulations!!
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2utq9w8.jpg
Congratulations!!
It is over 4k btc now, you don't know math?
due to it have reach the 2000BTC, I think project team should close the ICO at once to protect investers, don't make it become the 2nd wave.
Why would they? And how would that be fair to someone who has decided to 'wait and see' where this leads, only to know the ICO is closed. The goal of the ICO for the founding team is to raise as much as they can. The 2000 BTC was a minimum, which is easily crossed.
due to it have reach the 2000BTC, I think project team should close the ICO at once to protect investers, don't make it become the 2nd wave.
Almost 3m USD in first week of our ICO! this just for 1 weeks, This is remarkable for me.
Biggest transactions made:
124999.9 LSK from 6300322192409448238L
2,999.9473559 Ether from 0x906f0a04a61007e6a
229.99989488 BTC from 12YUcGyCRY6sDVzRWPqm6Hm9k5SJ3yMfVc
124999.9 LSK from 6300322192409448238L
2,999.9473559 Ether from 0x906f0a04a61007e6a
229.99989488 BTC from 12YUcGyCRY6sDVzRWPqm6Hm9k5SJ3yMfVc
Looks like we are entering into Waves territory here.
What happened with Waves? Sorry, I didn't follow it.
Waves is a project that was oversubcribe to and when listed on exchange it was trading below the ICO price, You can't compare Waves and ICONOMI yet, for now 30000+BTC is far from 4000BTC.
BTC price just dropped from 575 to 568...
Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
We don't have access to our funds - we do cooperate with trusted escrow partners for that.
We are collecting all crypto assets on collecting addresses and we won't be getting any funds before we release ICN tokens out.
Even after we get access to crypto assets we won't be dumping anything to the market. It does not make sense to us or anyone else.
You can check our collecting addresses here and you can also see that all the funds are still safely there.
BTC: 3KbWWjumBGLBUWYCeidydxe1uET9QyWoEg
ETH:0x154Af3E01eC56Bc55fD585622E33E3dfb8a248d8
LSK: 6300322192409448238L
BTC price just dropped from 575 to 568...
Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
I think it is posted in op. Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
In which currency will dividends be payed?
I think when ICN goes live price will go under ico price firstly.
I think when ICN goes live price will go under ico price firstly.
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
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We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
this post is severe and deserves an official response.
I agree, that was serious post with really well pointed questions. Some of these concerns were partially answered here:
Perhaps not the best wording, but you are right. MKR/REP/DGX also Xaurum since not long ago are the ones that can be in Ethereum contracts.
However, note that even Ethereum based assets that we'll hold won't be stored in a smart contract only. This won't be like a giant multisig with all the private keys online.
It will most likely be 4 out of 6 multisig. With each key stored in vaults at least 50km apart and one key stored on another continent and 3 vaults will have access only when 2 authorised person show up together. All that to prevent various scenarios where funds could be lost/stolen/whatever.
Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard. This is what is needed, as I didn't know that Bitfinex had all in a giant hot multisig wallet. And I don't know how Kraken or Poloniex is storing funds.
If you think that it is not enough of an explanation then demand more details. But at this moment I don't think that ICONOMI will give you any specifics. However, note that even Ethereum based assets that we'll hold won't be stored in a smart contract only. This won't be like a giant multisig with all the private keys online.
It will most likely be 4 out of 6 multisig. With each key stored in vaults at least 50km apart and one key stored on another continent and 3 vaults will have access only when 2 authorised person show up together. All that to prevent various scenarios where funds could be lost/stolen/whatever.
Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard. This is what is needed, as I didn't know that Bitfinex had all in a giant hot multisig wallet. And I don't know how Kraken or Poloniex is storing funds.
As further security details are not finalized. But I agree, a full transparency in this sector is required. We had enough of flops already.
Thank you for quoting my initial response.
I agree fully. Valid questions and concerns. I will write full blog post addressing these questions in full. Please give us a few days.
BTC price just dropped from 575 to 568...
Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
Are ICONOMI team already dumping the BTC collected in this 1st week
Is there a BTC address to verify that all collected BTC is still there?
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
Quote
We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
this post is severe and deserves an official response.
I agree, that was serious post with really well pointed questions. Some of these concerns were partially answered here:
Perhaps not the best wording, but you are right. MKR/REP/DGX also Xaurum since not long ago are the ones that can be in Ethereum contracts.
However, note that even Ethereum based assets that we'll hold won't be stored in a smart contract only. This won't be like a giant multisig with all the private keys online.
It will most likely be 4 out of 6 multisig. With each key stored in vaults at least 50km apart and one key stored on another continent and 3 vaults will have access only when 2 authorised person show up together. All that to prevent various scenarios where funds could be lost/stolen/whatever.
Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard. This is what is needed, as I didn't know that Bitfinex had all in a giant hot multisig wallet. And I don't know how Kraken or Poloniex is storing funds.
If you think that it is not enough of an explanation then demand more details. But at this moment I don't think that ICONOMI will give you any specifics. However, note that even Ethereum based assets that we'll hold won't be stored in a smart contract only. This won't be like a giant multisig with all the private keys online.
It will most likely be 4 out of 6 multisig. With each key stored in vaults at least 50km apart and one key stored on another continent and 3 vaults will have access only when 2 authorised person show up together. All that to prevent various scenarios where funds could be lost/stolen/whatever.
Whitepaper on storage of assets will be published by us and given to the community for discussion. We'll make it "open source" and set an industry best practice / standard. This is what is needed, as I didn't know that Bitfinex had all in a giant hot multisig wallet. And I don't know how Kraken or Poloniex is storing funds.
As further security details are not finalized. But I agree, a full transparency in this sector is required. We had enough of flops already.
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
Quote
We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
this post is severe and deserves an official response.
That's true,@estenity
ICONOMI, please address these issues.
Just found out about Iconomi. Anyone know how much 1 token is so far?
only 13 minutes left, lets see if can go till 2000btc. (direct btc incomes).
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
Congratulations!!
lisk already surpassed 1 Million.
Congratulations!!
One question with the twitter bounty:
Should I retweet just the tweeted post or I need all the retweeted/mentioned/tweeted post from ICONOMI?
Thanks!
You need to follow ICONOMI twitter page and retweet or quote tweet their posts depends on how many followers you have.Should I retweet just the tweeted post or I need all the retweeted/mentioned/tweeted post from ICONOMI?
Thanks!
More info: https://medium.com/iconominet/ico-bounties-ea2922888b85#.28ugw94hl
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1. Follow us on Twitter: 20 stakes per week
2. Every retweet (retweet or quote tweet) or mention:
Retweets are valid for tweets not older than this one.
Never miss any of our updates! Follow us on Twitter for our latest insights and retweet our news to your groups, friends and followers.
1. Follow us on Twitter: 20 stakes per week
2. Every retweet (retweet or quote tweet) or mention:
- 10 stakes for under 300 followers
- 20 stakes for under 1000 followers
- 50 stakes for 1000 or more followers
Retweets are valid for tweets not older than this one.
ICO website is containing deceitful wording regarding claimed security of the setup
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
Quote
We employ state-of-the-art security technology for you, with the storage of fiat and digital assets embedded into an Ethereum contract!
This is completely false. The only thing that can be embedded in and Ethereum contract is Ethereum based assets such as MKR, REP and DGX. Every other crypto will have to be held in custody in centralized hot and cold wallets managed by we don't know who (no information provided). The whole matter of how funds will be handled is completely ignored in spite of the fact this is probably the most important aspect of this project.
Storage of assets: not covered
Audit of assets: not covered
Change of service provider: not covered
Counterparty risk warning: not covered
Transfer of assest in case of change of service provider: not covered
Who stores the assets of open managed funds: not covered
Whether ICN holders get dividends: not covered
The nature and calculation of ICN holders dividends (if applicable): not covered
The whitepapers are more highlevel sales pitches than whitepapers and explain strictly nothing about how the whole thing is going to work technically.
This is really underwhelming.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing this thing from becoming TheDAO meets MtGox
this post is severe and deserves an official response.
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