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sr. member
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move that crypto
February 13, 2017, 03:15:02 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?



You're repeating yourself over and over and you just demonstrated your stupidity again by entirely missing the point.

- Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

- Bittrex owner debunked the fud that there was any regulation problem with listing ICN.  
He verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken green light, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

Bittrex owner said ICN is "not getting listed soon" because it's a Security Token you moron.
ICN founders said repeatedly that they tried to list ICN on Poloniex & kept hiding behind NDA's because Poloniex refused to list ICN because it's a Security Token.

Bittrex owner said they're "working on other things" meaning ICNX trading, which will only accelerate the dilution of ICN price & market cap since dividends from ICNX will remain minuscule for months.

You're trying to twist his quote to fit your troll fud narrative.  His actual quote was "not getting listed soon" because "one of the founders" "wasn't interested in getting ION listed on any additional exchanges."

I will post it again.  People can read what he actually said:



Bittrex and Poloniex listed DAO no problem, and that's also a dividend-paying ethereum token.  Kraken's team of lawyers also approved both DAO and ICN.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 03:10:47 AM
ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.


https://i.imgur.com/WJ19EqZ.png

Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...
https://i.imgur.com/GXq77Fs.png
Looks like the dumping is about to begin...
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 03:09:02 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?

https://i.imgur.com/7uqRaIj.png


You're repeating yourself over and over and you just demonstrated your stupidity again by entirely missing the point.

- Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

- Bittrex owner debunked the fud that there was any regulation problem with listing ICN.  
He verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken green light, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

Bittrex owner said ICN is "not getting listed soon" because it's a Security Token you moron.
ICN founders said repeatedly that they tried to list ICN on Poloniex & kept hiding behind NDA's because Poloniex refused to list ICN because it's a Security Token.

Bittrex owner said they're "working on other things" meaning ICNX trading, which will only accelerate the dilution of ICN price & market cap since dividends from ICNX will remain minuscule for months.
sr. member
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move that crypto
February 13, 2017, 02:59:57 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?


You're repeating yourself over and over and you entirely missed the point.

Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

Bittrex owner verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken approval, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:56:15 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?
When Kraken delists ICN after they find out that it's a Security Token, only Liqui will be left.
https://i.imgur.com/7uqRaIj.png
sr. member
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February 13, 2017, 02:43:27 AM
I think ICN will go day by day a little down. Only delays and no new exchanges soon.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:41:29 AM
It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws, you dumb fuck

So does Coinbase & Poloniex and they classified ICN as a Security Token:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Kraken.com is, knowingly or unknowingly, breaking US SEC laws by trading ICN Security Tokens on their site, since Kraken is US based.

None of that shit you linked is a source for the lie you just invented about Coinbase and Poloniex.  

Iconomi devs are probably waiting until ICNX and ICN are both in circulation before pushing for additional exchange listings.

Legit Source, straight from the owner of an altcoin exchange.  Reason it's not listed on more exchanges has nothing to do with regulation:

https://i.imgur.com/NOhoFXL.jpg

*He made a typo and meant to say ICN if you go read the actual slack log.
Clearly Bittrex is saying ICN is "not getting listed soon" which is obvious since ICN is a Security Tokens, same reason why Poloniex will never list it.
sr. member
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move that crypto
February 13, 2017, 02:26:52 AM
It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws, you dumb fuck

So does Coinbase & Poloniex and they classified ICN as a Security Token:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Kraken.com is, knowingly or unknowingly, breaking US SEC laws by trading ICN Security Tokens on their site, since Kraken is US based.

None of that shit you linked is a source for the lie you just invented about Coinbase and Poloniex.  

Iconomi devs are probably waiting until ICNX and ICN are both in circulation before pushing for additional exchange listings.

Legit Source, straight from the owner of a US exchange.  Reason it's not listed on more exchanges has nothing to do with regulation:



*He made a typo and meant to say ICN if you go read the actual slack log.

Kraken would not list something for only a few % bump in daily volume unless it was 100% legal, legit, and approved by their team of securities-expert lawyers.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:22:53 AM
It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws, you dumb fuck

So does Coinbase & Poloniex and they classified ICN as a Security Token:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Kraken.com is, knowingly or unknowingly, breaking US SEC laws by trading ICN Security Tokens on their site, since Kraken is US based.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
move that crypto
February 13, 2017, 02:17:54 AM
It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
February 13, 2017, 02:14:52 AM
It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) & US people are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities (ICN tokens) to US investors?
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:07:46 AM


I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.
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Call them! The only thing you will get is a rise in your phone bill
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Ok, I will call the the SEC later today to repot ICN & Kraken for selling unregistered ICN securities.
I will also point them to this thread to trace the US people pumping & selling these unregistered ICN securities.

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It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:06:12 AM
No one can buy icnx becasue did is not started yet , i can only buy icn and sell.

ICN is Security Token.
ICONOMI broke US SEC laws by soliciting investments from US investors during the ICO.
Kraken.com is also breaking US SEC laws by trading unregistered ICN Security Tokens on their site.
US persons are also forbiden from advertising & selling unregistered ICN Security Tokens.

See more here:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 02:04:34 AM
I'm reporting this whole thread to the SEC.
We will see who will have the final laugh.
Yeah-yeah, come on. It just shows that you know nothing about how SEC works. Please, report to SEC, FBI, CIA, NSA or whatever else comes to mind. I will have a laugh.
hero member
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February 13, 2017, 01:59:35 AM
No one can buy icnx becasue did is not started yet , i can only buy icn and sell.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 01:57:34 AM
So many Iconomi shills on this threads.
This is always a sign of a dying project.

if it's dying, why the fuck do you care?

fudding cum guzzling faggot

I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.

Call them! The only thing you will get is a rise in your phone bill

Ok, I will call the the SEC later today to repot ICN & Kraken for selling unregistered ICN securities.
I will also point them to this thread to trace the US people pumping & selling these unregistered ICN securities.


You're going to report yourself for pumping with your aDAPPter username then?

You over-used your style of pumping/fudding to the point where it has become recognizable and will not have the same effect in the future.

I don't use any other usernames nor I have to.
I'm reporting this whole thread to the SEC.
We will see who will have the final laugh.
sr. member
Activity: 364
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move that crypto
February 13, 2017, 01:44:30 AM
So many Iconomi shills on this threads.
This is always a sign of a dying project.

if it's dying, why the fuck do you care?

fudding cum guzzling faggot

I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.

Call them! The only thing you will get is a rise in your phone bill

Ok, I will call the the SEC later today to repot ICN & Kraken for selling unregistered ICN securities.
I will also point them to this thread to trace the US people pumping & selling these unregistered ICN securities.


You're going to report yourself for pumping february 9 conference with your aDAPPter username then?

You over-used your style of pumping/fudding to the point where it has become recognizable and will not have any effect in the future.
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 01:42:46 AM
ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.


https://i.imgur.com/WJ19EqZ.png

Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...
https://i.imgur.com/GXq77Fs.png
newbie
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February 13, 2017, 01:41:47 AM
Monday Feb 13 = "BLACK MONDAY"
The writings are on the walls, don't say you were not warned.
LOL... It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.
https://i.imgur.com/I4BwUVz.png

I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001

US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 https://i.imgur.com/g1PL4xn.png
https://i.imgur.com/wP4UPqp.png
This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.

https://i.imgur.com/uCCeBMm.png
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
February 13, 2017, 01:40:10 AM
So many Iconomi shills on this threads.
This is always a sign of a dying project.

if it's dying, why the fuck do you care?

fudding cum guzzling faggot

I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.

Call them! The only thing you will get is a rise in your phone bill

Ok, I will call the the SEC later today to repot ICONOMI & Kraken for selling unregistered ICN securities.
I will also point them to this thread to trace the US people pumping & selling these unregistered ICN securities.
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