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hero member
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December 27, 2016, 01:45:21 PM
nice to own wall like that Grin Grin

hero member
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December 27, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
I think the capitalization is still too high



Is not to high Smiley The Iconomi has huge potential.
legendary
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December 27, 2016, 01:42:27 PM
iconomi still a new coin(yeah, i know... not a exactly a coin) and with bitcoin pumping again + the delay, it's normal to see a dump.
now it's time to wait, happy new year to all with us! iconomi will bring the lambos this year!

This. I could say that there is no insie trade bcoz me and other people i know also started selling three days before launch. Its very nomal and "always" happen in every crypto when people sell oh news.

This dump is just jackpot of bitcoin pump+delayed.
The first dump occurred on BTC drop ( you should check the orders history on Kraken) There was no correlation between BTC pump and ICN dump

The only correlation between BTC and ICN was 1-2 weeks ago, when BTC starded to growing, ICN was 0.000415 BTC than slowly ICN prices decreased. There was no big sell orders ( only 10k 30k ICN )

Two person started to move large amounts of ICN from their eth address, two days ago ... Wink

Those amounts were dumped on Kraken. They knew about the delay, before us.

Of course  most of you, ignore those facts because  you are afraid  of big dump which may occur. That's ok (preservation instinct )

After announcement of delay, there was no big sell orders  Wink

Rational beings!

Yes I remember the message posted here mentioning ICN was moved from a big "ICO" investor, could be the team or close to the team. Well we now know that they must knew something and dumped early. This happens all the time in crypto so it doesn't surprise me, it's a good way to increase your share, always take some profits especially when BTC is rallying, dump will happen and if you sell the spikes you will most likely buy lower the next day.

But as an investor (well over 5BTC) I have a butthurt-ish feeling.  Why were we informed so late?  Just a simple mail could do.  The complete ICONOMI team was offline..  Then came the dump from an insider, maybe it was from an ICONOMI insider, maybe not.  But it feels shit and it's definitely not professional.  I won't call it a scam, not yet.
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Early Bitcoin Supporter
December 27, 2016, 01:41:39 PM
Delays are okay guys. Especially if they are for the better of the platform. Major Companies have delays (Tesla, Apple, Samsung) and its to prevent something that could have simply been resolved if there was a delay in place to make time for those issues. All is okay.
DIX
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December 27, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
I think the capitalization is still too high


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legendary
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December 27, 2016, 01:26:58 PM
iconomi still a new coin(yeah, i know... not a exactly a coin) and with bitcoin pumping again + the delay, it's normal to see a dump.
now it's time to wait, happy new year to all with us! iconomi will bring the lambos this year!

This. I could say that there is no insie trade bcoz me and other people i know also started selling three days before launch. Its very nomal and "always" happen in every crypto when people sell oh news.

This dump is just jackpot of bitcoin pump+delayed.
The first dump occurred on BTC drop ( you should check the orders history on Kraken) There was no correlation between BTC pump and ICN dump

The only correlation between BTC and ICN was 1-2 weeks ago, when BTC starded to growing, ICN was 0.000415 BTC than slowly ICN prices decreased. There was no big sell orders ( only 10k 30k ICN )

Two person started to move large amounts of ICN from their eth address, two days ago ... Wink

Those amounts were dumped on Kraken. They knew about the delay, before us.

Of course  most of you, ignore those facts because  you are afraid  of big dump which may occur. That's ok (preservation instinct )

After announcement of delay, there was no big sell orders  Wink

Rational beings!

Yes I remember the message posted here mentioning ICN was moved from a big "ICO" investor, could be the team or close to the team. Well we now know that they must knew something and dumped early. This happens all the time in crypto so it doesn't surprise me, it's a good way to increase your share, always take some profits especially when BTC is rallying, dump will happen and if you sell the spikes you will most likely buy lower the next day.
sr. member
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Crypto is Life!
December 27, 2016, 01:23:27 PM
All you guys complaining about the delay. I say what is best a platform with unsolved bugs which might cause havoc and loss of funds or a small wait for a stable platform. You choose. Your money at risk

because releaseday is set in stone. you can have then the product one month ready. no one cares. you release and then the time of optimisation is starting.



You sir aint have a developer background Wink
hero member
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December 27, 2016, 01:21:10 PM
iconomi still a new coin(yeah, i know... not a exactly a coin) and with bitcoin pumping again + the delay, it's normal to see a dump.
now it's time to wait, happy new year to all with us! iconomi will bring the lambos this year!

This. I could say that there is no insie trade bcoz me and other people i know also started selling three days before launch. Its very nomal and "always" happen in every crypto when people sell oh news.

This dump is just jackpot of bitcoin pump+delayed.
The first dump occurred on BTC drop ( you should check the orders history on Kraken) There was no correlation between BTC pump and ICN dump

The only correlation between BTC and ICN was 1-2 weeks ago, when BTC starded to growing, ICN was 0.000415 BTC than slowly ICN prices decreased. There was no big sell orders ( only 10k 30k ICN )

Two person started to move large amounts of ICN from their eth address, two days ago ... Wink

Those amounts were dumped on Kraken. They knew about the delay, before us.

Of course  most of you, ignore those facts because  you are afraid  of big dump which may occur. That's ok (preservation instinct )

After announcement of delay, there was no big sell orders  Wink

Rational beings!
newbie
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December 27, 2016, 01:08:10 PM
All you guys complaining about the delay. I say what is best a platform with unsolved bugs which might cause havoc and loss of funds or a small wait for a stable platform. You choose. Your money at risk

because releaseday is set in stone. you can have then the product one month ready. no one cares. you release and then the time of optimisation is starting.



Not if there is $200M lined up to use the platform...................   or maybe my IQ is 65
legendary
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December 27, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
It is one last time opportunity for the folks who somehow didn't become part of this project yet. This dip has another bright side and that is some people are accumulating that's why all these dumps are happening. Scoop up now or cry later in couple of weeks.
sr. member
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December 27, 2016, 01:07:03 PM
Very unprofessionell Team. ..delays from the beginning
hero member
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December 27, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
Did anybody think of the possibility that Iconomi had contact with a few of their biggest investors, the investors who had access to the platform. The investors said "hey I don't really like the way this feature works, this is buggy, that doesn't work etc". And then Iconomi realized they had to postpone release because of those bugs etc. Big investors aren't dumb. They could see it coming without Iconomi telling them anything. Stop spreading bullshit conspiracy theories of inside information.
   

There are no excuses investors deserve to be better informed because if Iconomi has more 10000000 dollars is thanks to us investors, do not forget that.

True that. But delay is delay, I don't think there is good way to tell investors that there will be delay.

Yes complitely agree. But communication should really be changed. We would need a guy somewhere where he/she would answer questions offenly

like paying another 2000$ for someone answering question for 8 hours a day, or 24 hours day then make it 6000$. For fu*** what, the hell? holding your hand, you not feeling alone?
sr. member
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December 27, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
I am glad they do not want to rush it. Btw that guy who dumped 250k yesterday and 100k today and still have cca 300k ICN knew it very well

Shouldn't that be worrying ?


yep they know when to dump... insider informations...maybe the iconomi crew dumped some for new year presents Cheesy
Now everything make sense. Good observation! For sure it was an "insider information" !

Do you have any official news about that?
What  "official news" do you want? LOL !! look at the market. Some "people" dumped  several hundred thousand of ICN before the ICNX release date Smiley) (which supposed to be 28 Dec)
Now use  your common sense! If you know  the release date ( which means "price growing" ) no one will sell such a huge amount .. Those people  knew  about  the postpone, they got the information from inside! Unfortunately those actions are unfair for all of us,  ICN investors.
 I don't like those kind of actions ( it reminds me of blog posting, when friends of Iconomi team  got the maximum stake even if those articles were much worse than others )

If you use wrong "common sense" then it can establish a Truth that is not real truth. I like things being confirmed, not speculated
Confirmed by who? Who is so stupid to confirm  those things?  Common man ..Grow up!( no offense! )

Look I agree that it looks like inside trading. But as we see PR is not doing well. So my suggestion would be: Iconomi should look who released those intel and penalize it and then establish good way of communicating with society. The way it was handled this time is obviously wrong so they should learn from it and listen to our suggestions.
hero member
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December 27, 2016, 01:03:28 PM
All you guys complaining about the delay. I say what is best a platform with unsolved bugs which might cause havoc and loss of funds or a small wait for a stable platform. You choose. Your money at risk

because releaseday is set in stone. you can have then the product one month ready. no one cares. you release and then the time of optimisation is starting.

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December 27, 2016, 01:00:31 PM
hold the lambo party until next year
sr. member
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Respect has to be earned, just like money!
December 27, 2016, 12:58:20 PM
If that was the first time you've seen someone make a big trade on info that is not yet public, then welcome to the crypto markets.
Common man !! If you know the release date  and price can go up ( 100% ) why you should to dump your stake ? Always I supposed that crypto people have some level of  intelligence !! I was wrong !

I agree that the 360k seller probably knew about the delay before the rest of market.

Crypto is one of the most free markets there is, so how would you prevent such trades from happening?
I don't understand your statement Smiley

1) You admit that there was some leaks information
2) In this case  where is that free market? Free market  it supposed to be  fair for all of us.. thaaa

Nobody should know such information before others. It's unfair, wrong and bad!

Trying to regulate a market so that it is "fair for all of us" would actually be a socialist market.

A free market like crypto is one in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition.
"unrestricted competition" vs restricted competition

Let's say  there are 10 BTC holders  right? Each of them  have some amount of BTC ( really doesnt matter how many)
The price of btc is $900 ( and in the next days there will be an big announcement, UE USA etc will regulate the market)
With two days before of announcement  you got from inside (official source) the information that there will be no regulation)
In this cause the BTC price  will crash, but you have an advantage ( you have the information)

You sell all of them!

After that comes the official statement  " There will be no regulation"

Price crashes to $700 $600

You are happy because you are "smart" than others 9 ( they were f***ed up! )

This is "unrestricted competition" ? Are you for real?

Unrestricted competition it should be fair competition  in which, everyone  has  equality of opportunity.

Do you know that this kind of acts are forbidden  on Stock Exchanges ?

PS :  I'm not leftist! (socialist)
I'm rightist.

I much prefer the unrestricted competition case.  One market participant wins the competition by exercising the competitive advantage he gets by receiving information first.

If this participant worked to get himself into a position where he receives information first, but then some centralized party blocks him from using that advantage and he loses, wouldn't that be unfair?

It was public information that we were supposed to receive invites to test the platform by Saturday.  The guy didn't start dumping the 360k until it was Sunday and it was obvious there would be a delay because no one had received invites yet.

Yep, I had the same thoughts as he had yesterday evening, but wasn't 100% sure about it. I learned something new and next time I'll be well aware of it. 20% More ICN will be a lot of money in the future.
sr. member
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December 27, 2016, 12:48:47 PM
Did anybody think of the possibility that Iconomi had contact with a few of their biggest investors, the investors who had access to the platform. The investors said "hey I don't really like the way this feature works, this is buggy, that doesn't work etc". And then Iconomi realized they had to postpone release because of those bugs etc. Big investors aren't dumb. They could see it coming without Iconomi telling them anything. Stop spreading bullshit conspiracy theories of inside information.
   

There are no excuses investors deserve to be better informed because if Iconomi has more 10000000 dollars is thanks to us investors, do not forget that.

True that. But delay is delay, I don't think there is good way to tell investors that there will be delay.

Yes complitely agree. But communication should really be changed. We would need a guy somewhere where he/she would answer questions offenly
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
December 27, 2016, 12:47:52 PM
iconomi still a new coin(yeah, i know... not a exactly a coin) and with bitcoin pumping again + the delay, it's normal to see a dump.
now it's time to wait, happy new year to all with us! iconomi will bring the lambos this year!

This. I could say that there is no insie trade bcoz me and other people i know also started selling three days before launch. Its very nomal and "always" happen in every crypto when people sell oh news.

This dump is just jackpot of bitcoin pump+delayed.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
Crypto is Life!
December 27, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
All you guys complaining about the delay. I say what is best a platform with unsolved bugs which might cause havoc and loss of funds or a small wait for a stable platform. You choose. Your money at risk
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
December 27, 2016, 12:42:51 PM
iconomi still a new coin(yeah, i know... not a exactly a coin) and with bitcoin pumping again + the delay, it's normal to see a dump.
now it's time to wait, happy new year to all with us! iconomi will bring the lambos this year!
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