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Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 355. (Read 1253958 times)

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December 05, 2016, 07:05:46 AM

okay, we use our brains and then what?

What EXACTLY will that achieve?

Poloniex will fucking list ICN magically and pump that shit to the moon so that you can finally exit with your wanted X5 profit?


So you are actually asking me what's the point of using your brain ? No wander the devs have fucked us hard ... they knew most people are afraid to use their brains Sad
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December 05, 2016, 07:02:44 AM
[–]icojaka 2 points 48 minutes ago
Yes, as of now I publicly allow any exchange that wants to list ICN that it can. OK. I did it. Now its up to exchanges to list us. Want to know whether they will? Ask them.

I do still wonder what this "NDA" stuff was for to start with and now suddenly, there are no NDA's for other exchanges and everyone are free to list?

Why didn't you or someone else from the team come forward with this information earlier?

Im 90% sure that I saw you saying before that more exchanges were planned, what happened with that? I know you are not the exchange but you had a NDA for some weird reason.

This looks more scummy by the day. So now no NDA ... is just the big bad exchanges that just don't fucking want to add the token ... but they are adding all kind of shit coins day one. These guys really must think everyone is retarded !
I do wander what the fuck did you guys really gain from this manipulation? It would've been so nice and clean to just let things normally go on any exchange that wanted to add the token. What fucking deals could've you done with these exchanges to worth being fucked over and over day by day on every channels ... and why? You just got 10 mil$ ... 

I hope you will finally shut up when polo lists ICN. You're more than annoying with that nonsense your posting all day.

I hope I am annoying enough so that you and others might start using their brains Wink

okay, we use our brains and then what?

What EXACTLY will that achieve?

Poloniex will fucking list ICN magically and pump that shit to the moon so that you can finally exit with your wanted X5 profit?

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December 05, 2016, 06:56:55 AM
[–]icojaka 2 points 48 minutes ago
Yes, as of now I publicly allow any exchange that wants to list ICN that it can. OK. I did it. Now its up to exchanges to list us. Want to know whether they will? Ask them.

I do still wonder what this "NDA" stuff was for to start with and now suddenly, there are no NDA's for other exchanges and everyone are free to list?

Why didn't you or someone else from the team come forward with this information earlier?

Im 90% sure that I saw you saying before that more exchanges were planned, what happened with that? I know you are not the exchange but you had a NDA for some weird reason.

This looks more scummy by the day. So now no NDA ... is just the big bad exchanges that just don't fucking want to add the token ... but they are adding all kind of shit coins day one. These guys really must think everyone is retarded !
I do wander what the fuck did you guys really gain from this manipulation? It would've been so nice and clean to just let things normally go on any exchange that wanted to add the token. What fucking deals could've you done with these exchanges to worth being fucked over and over day by day on every channels ... and why? You just got 10 mil$ ... 

I hope you will finally shut up when polo lists ICN. You're more than annoying with that nonsense your posting all day.

I hope I am annoying enough so that you and others might start using their brains Wink
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December 05, 2016, 06:56:09 AM
LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken.

So this boooooring range 20K+ sats / ICN for weeks its a pump and dump happening now on Kraken ? ... Jeeeesssss
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December 05, 2016, 05:48:19 AM
so stop hoping ICN can enter poloniex because it's all nonsense LOL

are you serious ICN can't be listed at poloniex?
ICN dont need poloniex or other. kraken is enough to trading.

agree. Kraken is a perfect fit. ICN is not your typicall pump and dump coin. HODL and be happy.
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December 05, 2016, 05:45:40 AM
so stop hoping ICN can enter poloniex because it's all nonsense LOL

are you serious ICN can't be listed at poloniex?
ICN dont need poloniex or other. kraken is enough to trading.
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December 05, 2016, 05:40:05 AM
Because most of you don't have a brain to put two and two together, let's make it as simple as possible.

This might or might not be true (take with grain of salt) but Im fairly sure these are the reasons:

(Liqui I won't even talk about because they are nobodies)

1) Kraken insta-listed because Iconomi will be using them as their liquidity provider (for the main tokens/coins BTC most probably), so a deal might be in place hense the NDA, they have stated that there will be no order books when entering and exit positions in the OFM for your investors so these will be executed through a backend system connected to ICONOMI to/from exchanges.

2) That ofcourse leaves a few coins/tokens (looking at ICNX additions/removals DGD,Steem, etc etc which might be available for OFM later on) on another exchange (for liquidity reasons) that aren't listed. So we are left with 2 altcoin exchanges Poloniex and Bittrex as ICNX/OFM rebalancing/purchasing/liquidating needs to be done outside Kraken (non listed coins) .. My guess is they have a special deal (NDA) for lower / no fees / market making with one of the two.


TLDR: For addition of other coins into ICNX/OFM they need someone that provides a bigger variety of coins. Poloniex has the biggest volume on most alts (so slippage is minimal) vs Bittrex, it's either one or the other and the news will probably hit us on ICNX/INCP for a new exchange or will be kept under wraps until OFM launches.

So keep calm and Iconomi on...
 
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December 05, 2016, 05:05:03 AM
so stop hoping ICN can enter poloniex because it's all nonsense LOL

I don't think most of us here mind being on Kraken as the main exchange, if the other ones want to make money they will add it eventually.
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December 05, 2016, 04:58:20 AM
so stop hoping ICN can enter poloniex because it's all nonsense LOL
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December 05, 2016, 04:21:53 AM
Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.

Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.

Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.

LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi.
Yes,it's all about dividends Wink

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December 05, 2016, 04:03:09 AM
Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.

Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.

Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.

LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi.
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December 05, 2016, 03:07:00 AM
Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.

Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.

Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.
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December 05, 2016, 03:00:09 AM
Here's my analysis:

It only takes 200 BTC in buy orders for ICN price to go from 23k to 100k
That could literally happen within 5 minutes of a launch on Bitfinex or Poloniex.
A project of this magnitude is going to 100M marketcap no doubt.
It's just a matter of who's of those exchanges is smart enough to become the next home of ICONOMI and its trading volume.

I think they want the timing right, with the release of the ICONOMI Fund Platform
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December 05, 2016, 02:57:27 AM
Here's my analysis:

It only takes 200 BTC in buy orders for ICN price to go from 23k to 100k
That could literally happen within 5 minutes of a launch on Bitfinex or Poloniex.
A project of this magnitude is going to 100M marketcap no doubt.
It's just a matter of who's of those exchanges is smart enough to become the next home of ICONOMI and its trading volume.
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December 05, 2016, 01:03:28 AM
Any one has made calculations on amount of eth to be received per ICN as dividends?

This question has been answered few pages ago...Same questions every day Undecided

MalReynolds   wrote about  dividends - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16845602 ( it is not official information )
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December 05, 2016, 12:54:33 AM
Any one has made calculations on amount of eth to be received per ICN as dividends?
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December 05, 2016, 12:53:29 AM
if we keep ICN on "ico page" we will still get fees from the coin ?

Yes you will receive the dividends If you keep your ICONOMI tokens there or any ethereum address that you have control over It private key and you will be able to sell and buy ICNs as well in the future on ICO page as It's under development at the moment.
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Crypto Future here i come
December 05, 2016, 12:27:56 AM
if we keep ICN on "ico page" we will still get fees from the coin ?

sí señor
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December 04, 2016, 11:07:49 PM
if we keep ICN on "ico page" we will still get fees from the coin ?
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