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November 23, 2016, 12:24:52 AM
Hello! What wallet do you recommend to deposit my ICN? Other than MIST, please. Huh

myetherwallet + Ledger nano S

Works like a charm
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November 22, 2016, 11:54:22 PM
Hello! What wallet do you recommend to deposit my ICN? Other than MIST, please. Huh
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November 22, 2016, 11:32:38 PM
Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?

I've already written this about ICN dividends:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9

As the article above discusses,  ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend.  Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street.  

So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case.  $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M.    Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M.    Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M.  These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017.  If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN.  

So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017.

This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP.  This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect.

Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN.  This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token.  They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target.  If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion.  With a B.  Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star.

Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have.  Math is a better thing for the human mind to have.

Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN?  Not at all.

ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT.   IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.

ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous.  ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now.  And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years.  

IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.

Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds.  They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money.  

That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts.

And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually.

I am HODLING.

There's also this:

Actually, to get to Ethereum's current level of success ICN must only go to 0.1257 * 32 = $4.02 each.   This implies a market cap of "only" $400M.

Also, as a mined coin, Ethereum has inflation of 18M ETH per year.  As an unmined token, ICN has 0% inflation forever.   This is a permanent advantage that ICN has over ETH in being priced as a crypto asset.

True... 0% Inflation is another reason why ICN MarketCap will eventually surpass ETH MarketCap.
Another reason why ICONOMI is going to the moon:
ICN total supply of 100million IS FINAL, NEVER GOES UP. 0% Inflation.
ICN Dividends are paid in ETH, not ICN.
Dividends are NOT like Lisk Proof-of-Stake or ETH proof-of-work systems where new coins are added DAILY to Lisk & ETH total supply.
ICN won't suffer from daily dumping by Mining Farms on the Exchanges like ETH & Lisk.






After reading this quality post...anyone who give ease and sell their ICN below 1 usd is the most crazy lazy person. If You need money go to work....don't sell your dividend  Cheesy
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November 22, 2016, 09:53:51 PM
Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?

I've already written this about ICN dividends:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9

As the article above discusses,  ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend.  Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street.  

So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case.  $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M.    Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M.    Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M.  These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017.  If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN.  

So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017.

This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP.  This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect.

Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN.  This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token.  They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target.  If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion.  With a B.  Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star.

Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have.  Math is a better thing for the human mind to have.

Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN?  Not at all.

ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT.   IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.

ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous.  ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now.  And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years.  

IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.

Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds.  They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money.  

That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts.

And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually.

I am HODLING.

There's also this:

Actually, to get to Ethereum's current level of success ICN must only go to 0.1257 * 32 = $4.02 each.   This implies a market cap of "only" $400M.

Also, as a mined coin, Ethereum has inflation of 18M ETH per year.  As an unmined token, ICN has 0% inflation forever.   This is a permanent advantage that ICN has over ETH in being priced as a crypto asset.

True... 0% Inflation is another reason why ICN MarketCap will eventually surpass ETH MarketCap.
Another reason why ICONOMI is going to the moon:
ICN total supply of 100million IS FINAL, NEVER GOES UP. 0% Inflation.
ICN Dividends are paid in ETH, not ICN.
Dividends are NOT like Lisk Proof-of-Stake or ETH proof-of-work systems where new coins are added DAILY to Lisk & ETH total supply.
ICN won't suffer from daily dumping by Mining Farms on the Exchanges like ETH & Lisk.




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November 22, 2016, 09:39:59 PM
its been a while since i last visited this thread, any other exchange added ICN? except for kraken and liqui
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November 22, 2016, 09:17:16 PM
Lot of great info about ICONOMI can be found on last Tuesday's AMA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5d2efz/i_am_tim_m_zagar_cofounder_of_iconomi_fund/

Looking forward to the next AMA. It's next Tuesday, right?
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November 22, 2016, 09:06:27 PM
Any idea guys when will the first set of dividends be issued?
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November 22, 2016, 08:58:18 PM
Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?

None yet, other then ICN holders will split 20% of the profits from all funds.
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November 22, 2016, 07:28:22 PM
Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?
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November 22, 2016, 07:27:31 PM
Dump into my orders guys! I need more ICN!
when bitcoin $ 800 maybe it will fall
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November 22, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
so what we still get profit from dividends  Cheesy
Exactly, and this thinking is under-rated here. Remember that there are two sources of return for ICONOMI - price appreciation AND dividend payments. To calculate the full return, you will need to take dividend reinvestment into consideration as well.
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November 22, 2016, 06:50:27 PM
Dump into my orders guys! I need more ICN!
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November 22, 2016, 06:42:55 PM
CMF & CTF Iconomi platform is launching this December.
I can't believe December is NEXT WEEK Grin

Bitcoin rally is going to bring lot of attention to CMF & CTF funds.
When people realize that investing Iconomi index funds with fiat on Iconomi platform, is much easier than investing & storing private keys of different cryptos, you can bet your bottom dollar we're going to the moon.
This is good news
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November 22, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
CMF & CTF Iconomi platform is launching this December.
I can't believe December is NEXT WEEK Grin

Bitcoin rally is going to bring lot of attention to CMF & CTF funds.
When people realize that investing in Iconomi index funds with fiat on Iconomi platform, is much easier than investing in different cryptos & storing their private keys & easier than researching & chasing latest ICOs, you can bet your bottom dollar that ICN is going to the moon.
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November 22, 2016, 05:53:46 PM
so what we still get profit from dividends  Cheesy
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November 22, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
what kind of profit you guys think we will get after 3-6 months by holding lets say 1000-5000 ICNs?

Q1 2017 definitely 1-2 dollars  Smiley
you are making a good joke on this thread, if the price goes to $ 1,000 bitcoin, ICN prices will weaken Smiley
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November 22, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
what kind of profit you guys think we will get after 3-6 months by holding lets say 1000-5000 ICNs?

Q1 2017 definitely 1-2 dollars  Smiley
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November 22, 2016, 05:28:53 PM
what kind of profit you guys think we will get after 3-6 months by holding lets say 1000-5000 ICNs?
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November 22, 2016, 05:14:38 PM
23k and only buy when it falls on my big bag for 15k, at least holding a cheap price on ICN Smiley
Your dream too much about it, I think because the price of bitcoin really strengthened this week and it suffered ICN prices to be down
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November 22, 2016, 04:30:05 PM

Wow, that's great. December 7 suprises. Those who sold ICN I'll cry. You can not say more. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
I do not think it, I just see the future of bitcoin much more grown up than ICN Smiley

I think it and I have both Smiley
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