[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 41.

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Quote from: TopTrade on February 09, 2017, 06:18:51 PM

Quote from: Warren_Buffett on February 09, 2017, 06:12:18 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on February 09, 2017, 06:09:02 PM

Etoro.com is also unavailable in US, but they still have more than 20k users trading BTC there and a market cap well north of $100m

The 20k users trading BTC on Etoro.com are NOT from the United States.

Where did you get that $100m market cap figure?

Last time I checked eToro was a private company, not publicly traded.
I guess he pulled that $100m market cap figure from his ass.

I believe he means it's market valuation, doesn't have to be traded publicl to have a market valuationNot sure if it's worth a 100M but probably based on the investments and stake of the investors.

Enjorlas

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As an American with a giant bag of ICN, I am HODLING.

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Quote from: Warren_Buffett on February 09, 2017, 06:12:18 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on February 09, 2017, 06:09:02 PM

Etoro.com is also unavailable in US, but they still have more than 20k users trading BTC there and a market cap well north of $100m

The 20k users trading BTC on Etoro.com are NOT from the United States.

Where did you get that $100m market cap figure?

Last time I checked eToro was a private company, not publicly traded.
I guess he pulled that $100m market cap figure from his ass.

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Knowledge is power

Quote from: Arcteryx on February 09, 2017, 06:07:25 PM

Well now what you got to say?
Kids starting a business book and not understanding the logistics of any of what they are getting into.
Truly pathetic and a big time fail of all logic here. Roll Eyes

Yet again!
You know your biggest market is in the US market.,, The fools will follow the pied piper.

You're right, well I guess it's time to sell then, maybe buy more melons.

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Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to send in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.
https://i.imgur.com/wP4UPqp.png
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
https://i.imgur.com/g1PL4xn.png

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5b/5b702b5f4ad475285bea7c9eb4f0bf6769c2d79f9194a6984164b614157794a2.jpg

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Quote from: MoveCrypto on February 09, 2017, 06:09:02 PM

Etoro.com is also unavailable in US, but they still have more than 20k users trading BTC there and a market cap well north of $100m

ICN is under a FUD attack from competing projects and people who are trying to accumulate ICN for pennies on the dollar

Looks like I have to start using size 16 green font to cancel out the obnoxious giant red font of these assholes

+100

P.s. please don't reply to warren cunt. He has lost his credibility to everyone here so just let him to talk to himself, it's funny that way Grin

Warren_Buffett

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Quote from: MoveCrypto on February 09, 2017, 06:09:02 PM

Etoro.com is also unavailable in US, but they still have more than 20k users trading BTC there and a market cap well north of $100m

The 20k users trading BTC on Etoro.com are NOT from the United States.

Where did you get that $100m market cap figure?

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Quote from: Arcteryx on February 09, 2017, 06:07:25 PM

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You know your biggest market is in the US market.,, The fools will follow the pied piper.
...

Since when in crypto US is a biggest market Cheesy

?
The biggest market in crypto is in China it have 90% BTC volume right now.
Maybe when US will provide more friendly crypto law they will make it possible for US citizens.

Quote from: Warren_Buffett on February 09, 2017, 06:09:59 PM

....

Em... yeah, it is Iconomi's fault that they solicited money form US investors during the ICO for a product that they can't use.

So are they going to refund US investors their money now?

YEA BAD news for them they can sell ICN just for 200%+ profit today as refund of scam...
They can go liqui and liquidate their USD investments ^^

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Quote from: XbladeX on February 09, 2017, 06:05:47 PM

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to send in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.
....

Yea big deal. Try trade >20BTC on any exchange and withdraw it at once without registration...
Those folks are same unknown like any bank you see around or mobile provider.
Many places today require your data.
Do you think that is impossible to make photo of your ID in any situation like moving aboard
you personal data can be stolen in many situations that you are not even aware of.

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

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4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
...

So they have to work around and but it on exchanges like some tokens where they can register or they already are registered.
Or they will move money into Iconomi in small amounts to not push over limit.
Not ICONOMI fault is restricted US law guys with big pockets can always invest into ICONOMI using offshore companies or other methods ^^
for wealthy people.If ICONOMI will be available for China no one will give a fuck to US ^^

Em... yeah, it is Iconomi's fault that they solicited money form US investors during the ICO for a product that they can't use.

So are they going to refund US investors their money now?

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move that crypto

Etoro.com is also unavailable in US, but they still have more than 20k users trading BTC there and a market cap well north of $100m

ICN is under a FUD attack from competing projects and people who are trying to accumulate ICN for pennies on the dollar

Looks like I have to start using size 16 bold green font to cancel out the obnoxious giant red font of these assholes

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Quote from: TopTrade on February 09, 2017, 05:59:32 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

no to "USA"...pretty limited . Wait until competitors come out and able to sell to USA market, will leave Iconomi in the dust.

Was it mentioned during the ICO that they can't receive funds from US citizens?
Iconomi could face serious legal consequences if they received money from US investors.

Don't mix things! There is nothing like "serious legal consequences". Please use your brain!
US investors received their ICN and also they'll get dividends.

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Well now what you got to say?
Kids starting a business book and not understanding the logistics of any of what they are getting into.
Truly pathetic and a big time fail of all logic here. Roll Eyes

Yet again!
You know your biggest market is in the US market.,, The fools will follow the pied piper.

There you go 42savage one of the little mice.
The Pied Piper of Hamelin (German: Rattenfänger von Hameln also known as the Pan Piper, the Rat-Catcher of Hamelin) is the subject character of a legend from the town of Hamelin (Hameln), Lower Saxony, Germany

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 06:03:48 PM

Quote from: Vinz421 on February 09, 2017, 06:01:20 PM

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to sending in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.

4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION

Well, I'll send you back to the reply I've just posted on another so called "crypto-anarchist-anon".

If Iconomi is to be a proper financial institution, selling crypto assets to traditionnal VC investors, they've got to provide the means to achieve this.

This is KYC. This is AML.
This. Is. Law. This is regulation.

You don't have to agree with it, you don't have to comply with it, but then you stay out.

Of course, you can stay with the kids and play with pocket money, wondering why the whole crypto market cap is still peanuts compared to traditionnal hedge funds, after a mere 8 years of activity.
Or you can realise the old-economy whales will want legitimate businesses to invest big time in, not shady anon pnd exchanges for the tech-savvy crypto-geeks. I'm looking at you, Polo.

You're missing the point which is :

4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION

They collected funds during the ICO from US citizens, now they're blocking them from using the product they invest in.

Now who is the retard? Pffft! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to send in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.
....

Yea big deal. Try trade >20BTC on any exchange and withdraw it at once without registration...
Those folks are same unknown like any bank you see around or mobile provider.
Many places today require your data.
Do you think that is impossible to make photo of your ID in any situation like moving aboard
you personal data can be stolen in many situations that you are not even aware of.

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

...
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
...

So they have to work around and but it on exchanges like some tokens where they can register or they already are registered.
Or they will move money into Iconomi in small amounts to not push over limit.
Not ICONOMI fault is restricted US law guys with big pockets can always invest into ICONOMI using offshore companies or other methods ^^
for wealthy people.If ICONOMI will be available for China no one will give a fuck to US ^^

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Quote from: cengsuwuei on February 09, 2017, 05:33:46 PM

iam hear about iconomi coin account must verified ID, is true or not
is true i think is not good, because cryptocurency is anonymous, bitcoin and majority all altcoin not need verified ID
ethereum is same not need verified ID, and iconomi coin create coin use ethereum token

You do not need verified ID to own ICN, you can buy it offline from someone like buying bitcoins from localbitcoins and they can send it to your wallet.

However, if you plan to buy ICN or ICNX from the Iconomi website, you need verified ID just like you need verified ID to buy BTC, ETH from any website selling BTC or ETH directly. This is completely normal.

It is important to have verified ID on exchanges and Iconomi because they have a responsibility to make sure the service is not being used by criminals, drug dealers etc... Every reputable exchange has this responsibility and I am glad it is implemented by Iconomi.

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Quote from: Vinz421 on February 09, 2017, 06:01:20 PM

Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to sending in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.
https://i.imgur.com/wP4UPqp.png
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
https://i.imgur.com/g1PL4xn.png

Well, I'll send you back to the reply I've just posted on another so called "crypto-anarchist-anon".

If Iconomi is to be a proper financial institution, selling crypto assets to traditionnal VC investors, they've got to provide the means to achieve this.

This is KYC. This is AML.
This. Is. Law. This is regulation.

You don't have to agree with it, you don't have to comply with it, but then you stay out.

Of course, you can stay with the kids and play with pocket money, wondering why the whole crypto market cap is still peanuts compared to traditionnal hedge funds, after a mere 8 years of activity.
Or you can realise the old-economy whales will want legitimate businesses to invest big time in, not shady anon pnd exchanges for the tech-savvy crypto-geeks. I'm looking at you, Polo.

You're missing the point which is :

4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION

They collected funds during the ICO from US citizens, now they're blocking them from using the product they invest in.

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Quote from: CryptoInsiders on February 09, 2017, 05:52:13 PM

Get ready to sending in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.

4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION

Well, I'll send you back to the reply I've just posted on another so called "crypto-anarchist-anon".

If Iconomi is to be a proper financial institution, selling crypto assets to traditionnal VC investors, they've got to provide the means to achieve this.

This is KYC. This is AML.
This. Is. Law. This is regulation.

You don't have to agree with it, you don't have to comply with it, but then you stay out.

Of course, you can stay with the kids and play with pocket money, wondering why the whole crypto market cap is still peanuts compared to traditionnal hedge funds, after a mere 8 years of activity.
Or you can realise the old-economy whales will want legitimate businesses to invest big time in, not shady anon pnd exchanges for the tech-savvy crypto-geeks. I'm looking at you, Polo.

TopTrade

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Quote from: ?? on ??

no to "USA"...pretty limited . Wait until competitors come out and able to sell to USA market, will leave Iconomi in the dust.

Was it mentioned during the ICO that they can't receive funds from US citizens?
Iconomi could face serious legal consequences if they received money from US investors.

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Quote from: Warren_Buffett on February 09, 2017, 04:43:17 PM

No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".

As I said:

So now that you are not an ICONOMI stake holder anymore, why don't you just leave us alone? Whats your problem if we want to hold and take this risk? You must have made good profit with ICN so why you so butt hurt?

Quote from: Vinz421 on February 09, 2017, 04:49:45 PM

FYI, trolls, fudders and shills of BTT :

https://identity.iconomi.net/
and
https://identity.iconomi.net/register

ALMOST LAMBO TIME

What is this?is there any official announcement about this?

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Quote from: andron8383 on February 09, 2017, 05:23:47 PM

Quote from: honolulumark on February 09, 2017, 05:13:38 PM

...

So it begins
..

Indeed it took some time to estabilish stuff but it was worth to wait.
Security takes time to be setup in good way.
With digital assets this is HIGH priority if we manage corn trading or horses maybe it would be easier to make such platform just using one of 1000s
weshop themplates here will be quite uniqie product so i am so exited.
To be hones i am bored of scam ICOs and i would invest some cash into ICNX or ICNP even with those fees becouse alone without many invetigaton is really easy to fall into scam trap.
ICONOMI guys are attending to those conferences and know personally most of those startups creator face to face and i would never do such good research that scary me.
I am aware that they will be usually one step before me joining ICONOMI part as investor soon will be popular i bet....

This is fucking great, we're rolling.

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Get ready to send in your Identification cards & Passports to some unknown people in Slovenia.
https://i.imgur.com/wP4UPqp.png
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
https://i.imgur.com/g1PL4xn.png

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