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November 15, 2016, 02:19:01 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.

What I cannot understand is "the listing of ICN is purely the exchange's decision", if that is the case, why would there be an NDA about this? Agreement or not, it is not up to the devteam so why on earth would you sign an agreement with someone that forces you to keep stuff like this secret?

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November 15, 2016, 02:02:08 PM
I know, it's funny that Polo makes them sign a NDA not to say if their listing ICN or not. Is it me or does that hint to insider trading? Polo buys up ICN and when ready lists it and dumps it's ICN for instant profit along with fees. Find it stupid to have a NDA for a coin being on an exchange, I find it funny that people sign NDAs in crypto, or sign anything for that matter in the Crypto world..

That is exactly my thought. Polo do not even need to tell the dev's when or if they are listing the token. The dev's only need to formally request exchanges to list the token. Nothing more. The rest is clearly market manipulation. I am sure Polo already bought a lot of cheap ICN ... which were available for sale that cheap exactly because of the manipulation (uncertainty that the token will ever be listed on a decent exchange). So I hope to be spot on when its getting listed on Polo in the first hours, before Polo dumps its full bag of ICN and crushes the price.
legendary
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November 15, 2016, 01:59:28 PM
WBB has NDA with upcoming Insurance company sign on, but this is for major biz contract with multi-million dollar company.  THAT is valid NDA reason.

I think it just seems now ICN or like crypto scene is now "throwing around" the NDA term using it in the wrong terminology or situation lol.  Especially when it isn't req'd!
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November 15, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
NDA just for an exchange addition?  I find that odd...............................
Is there a valid reason for this or just smoke/mirrors from the devs???



From what I've heard this is how it's always done when an exchange adds a new addition.

Nobody can force you to sign an NDA ... what do you think, Polo guys threaten the dev's if they don't sign and NDA they will not list ICN ?
Really ?

I know, it's funny that Polo makes them sign a NDA not to say if their listing ICN or not. Is it me or does that hint to insider trading? Polo buys up ICN and when ready lists it and dumps it's ICN for instant profit along with fees. Find it stupid to have a NDA for a coin being on an exchange, I find it funny that people sign NDAs in crypto, or sign anything for that matter in the Crypto world..
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November 15, 2016, 01:54:46 PM
LOL, that's not how it works man. The guys fully agreed to sign a NDA before exchanges consider to add Iconomi or discuss any details.

Why would you agree to sign  NDA ? Do you think Polo has promised something to the Dev's ? WHY do that if you are transparent. I know what an NDA is ... usually is to protect sensitive information ... Investors do not care about any sensitive information. They just care about

"
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges.
The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.
"

The 2 phrases are in direct contradiction. NDAs require from you ? Than you are a party involved in the decision to list the token ... If the decision would be entirely of the exchange ... why the need of an NDA ?



Maybe because polo or bittrex do not want the devs discussing when it will be listed because that is essentially insider information? Polo never announces its listing until it actually lists a coin...

Why polo/bittrex do that is a different story... it is kind of shady on the exchanges end, because it would make it easy for them to profit from the insider information.
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November 15, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
LOL, that's not how it works man. The guys fully agreed to sign a NDA before exchanges consider to add Iconomi or discuss any details.

Why would you agree to sign  NDA ? Do you think Polo has promised something to the Dev's ? WHY do that if you are transparent. I know what an NDA is ... usually is to protect sensitive information ... Investors do not care about any sensitive information. They just care about

"
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges.
The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.
"

The 2 phrases are in direct contradiction. NDAs require from you ? Than you are a party involved in the decision to list the token ... If the decision would be entirely of the exchange ... why the need of an NDA ?

legendary
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November 15, 2016, 01:47:05 PM
NDA just for an exchange addition?  I find that odd...............................
Is there a valid reason for this or just smoke/mirrors from the devs???



From what I've heard this is how it's always done when an exchange adds a new addition.

Nobody can force you to sign an NDA ... what do you think, Polo guys threaten the dev's if they don't sign and NDA they will not list ICN ?
Really ?

LOL, that's not how it works man. The guys fully agreed to sign a NDA before exchanges consider to add Iconomi or discuss any details. They can't say anything until a deal is made or not. This is just standard for companies so people, companies, clients don't spread sensitive information about proceeds, requirements, etc. You can't even disclose there was deal signed, how, when, etc, depending on the NDA.
legendary
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November 15, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.

I think there is a strategy behind the waiting and nda talk.. Yes you are right. For a lousy 3 btc you can trade on bittrex which btw isn't that great, but still is a fairly good exchange. If you are asking me, they are deliberately keeping icn out of exchanges like bitter, polo and so on.
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November 15, 2016, 01:46:20 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.

Cool story. Now put your money where your mouth is and sell  Kiss

Did it already got to 5 USD / token ? Why the fuck would i sell at this price ? I risked a few BTC for gaining peanuts ?
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November 15, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.

Cool story. Now put your money where your mouth is and sell  Kiss
sr. member
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November 15, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
Guys look at the buy support @ kraken.  It's starting  Wink

Where is the guy with the weekly/daily chart with the red line?

Yea, he should be hired for a full time job.  Cheesy
legendary
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November 15, 2016, 01:40:44 PM
Guys look at the buy support @ kraken.  It's starting  Wink

Where is the guy with the weekly/daily chart with the red line?
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November 15, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
NDA just for an exchange addition?  I find that odd...............................
Is there a valid reason for this or just smoke/mirrors from the devs???



From what I've heard this is how it's always done when an exchange adds a new addition.

Nobody can force you to sign an NDA ... what do you think, Polo guys threaten the dev's if they don't sign and NDA they will not list ICN ?
Really ?
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November 15, 2016, 01:24:50 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.
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November 15, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
NDA just for an exchange addition?  I find that odd...............................
Is there a valid reason for this or just smoke/mirrors from the devs???



From what I've heard this is how it's always done when an exchange adds a new addition.
legendary
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November 15, 2016, 01:22:29 PM
NDA just for an exchange addition?  I find that odd...............................
Is there a valid reason for this or just smoke/mirrors from the devs???

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November 15, 2016, 12:44:55 PM
Lol and some guys dump your coins.

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November 15, 2016, 12:34:34 PM



Can't say anything......

Interesting.....

no, expected. that's the reason of NDA's.  Roll Eyes

Let me spell it out for you then....

Poloniex is obviously waiting for dividends to be paid out and then they going to pump that shit to the moon.....

Why always Poloniex, we have other big exchanges, ICN is not on any Chinese exchange presently, there is need to expose this project to other markets

I think the Chinese are not into these type of investment. ICN will most probably be accepted to the places like NY, Tokyo and London where fiat traders are based. Its where Forex sessions are.
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November 15, 2016, 12:20:23 PM



Can't say anything......

Interesting.....

no, expected. that's the reason of NDA's.  Roll Eyes

Let me spell it out for you then....

Poloniex is obviously waiting for dividends to be paid out and then they going to pump that shit to the moon.....



Why always Poloniex, we have other big exchanges, ICN is not on any Chinese exchange presently, there is need to expose this project to other markets
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November 15, 2016, 12:17:44 PM
Excited to participate their affiliate program. Someone asked this before so yes its confirmed they will have this feature next year. The sooner the better.

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