Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 490. (Read 1253970 times)
I have not seen about the future of this, my friend let me know by being part of this thread
Hope Iconomi invested massively in Golem (GNT), their ico raised 1millions of ether in just 10 minutes, their ico just ended!
you don't get how ICN operates, I'd recommend reading the FAQ & WP.
also, lul clueless people dump millions to the shittiest ICO these days, that's no indicator for success.
For one year, it is possible to get $ 1 per ICN dividends.
Me too will be very satisfied with $ 0.1 weekly dividends per ICN.
Me too will be very satisfied with $ 0.1 weekly dividends per ICN.
I've already written this about ICN dividends:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9
As the article above discusses, ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend. Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street.
So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case. $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M. Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M. Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M. These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017. If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN.
So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017.
This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP. This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect.
Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN. This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token. They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target. If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion. With a B. Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star.
Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have. Math is a better thing for the human mind to have.
Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN? Not at all.
ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT. IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.
ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous. ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now. And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years.
IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.
Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds. They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money.
That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts.
And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually.
I am HODLING.
Hope Iconomi invested massively in Golem (GNT), their ico raised 1millions of ether in just 10 minutes, their ico just ended!
just an easy question.
im holding some icn at kraken. first when dividends starts? second where should i hold icn for getting dividends? as i understand we not receiving anything before 2017 am i right?
im holding some icn at kraken. first when dividends starts? second where should i hold icn for getting dividends? as i understand we not receiving anything before 2017 am i right?
First dividends would start in end of December or beginning of January.
For receiving dividends you must hold them in a wallet for which you hold private keys.
Example of accepted wallets: Mist, my ether wallet,..
Examples of wallet not accepted: Jaxx, any exchange (except Liqui, Liqui is claiming that it would give dividends to users)
Yeah, most probably in starting of January 2017 as I wrote above.
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
I see many are talking about dividends and retiring while I am sure most of them have some thousands ICNs (maybe). I am not sure what dividends people are expecting ... I doubt the value will be higher than a few cents / ICN / year. So really ... what money that would mean ... ? few $ / year for some one that invested few hundreds usd ? that is peanuts ... in risk / reward terms its just doesn't worth. Lets be honest ... dividends are for those that have > 100k-250K ICN ... for the rest the real value is in trading (selling high buying low). And I am talking about people at least in Africa and Est Europe where few hundred USD / year profit actually means something in practical terms and not for the western countries where this kind of profit would probably mean a couple of evening dinners at an average restaurant.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold.
Its not earning for doing nothing. You didn't do anything to earn those BTC/USD/ETH with which you bought the ICNs? When you invested 3-4 BTC and you end up earning few dollars a year ... that is peanuts. What do you think the ROI will be ? 3-5 years ? That is BS ... that is an eternity in crypto world. The ROI has to be less than a year, and hope for at least another year of profits until all goes to shit. You will not retire after investing few BTC in an ICO ... neither will you have any Lambos from such activity. If you were able to invest a really big chunk of money in this ... you probably already have a Lambo or something similar, and most probably do not read BTT
My thoughts exactly, still, this is cryptoworld, if I wanted regular dividends and ROI I'd put my money in Microsoft.
Even at $1, you say at 1000 ICN is just ok getting $1000 a week as dividents?
For me it sounds to much of delusion. Iconomi has to produce over 3 billion $ in a year. Am I missing something?
Hey, you set the bar high, you better live up to the expectations you're creating.
Nobody cares about the dividends, users and investors want only to pump & dump to make more bitcoin .
They are waiting for the right exchange (Poloniex.com).
. They are waiting for the right exchange (Poloniex.com).
I am very disappointed here so far. I hope they show some results re. tech/work and price reflection soon. Come on mister market makers with walls let's get them moving up .
You are right, now is not the age of nxt 80 btc became 100k btc story, or xem 90 btc became 160k btc.
Nope ... now is the age of 1 BTC producing 1 USD / year
just an easy question.
im holding some icn at kraken. first when dividends starts? second where should i hold icn for getting dividends? as i understand we not receiving anything before 2017 am i right?
im holding some icn at kraken. first when dividends starts? second where should i hold icn for getting dividends? as i understand we not receiving anything before 2017 am i right?
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
I see many are talking about dividends and retiring while I am sure most of them have some thousands ICNs (maybe). I am not sure what dividends people are expecting ... I doubt the value will be higher than a few cents / ICN / year. So really ... what money that would mean ... ? few $ / year for some one that invested few hundreds usd ? that is peanuts ... in risk / reward terms its just doesn't worth. Lets be honest ... dividends are for those that have > 100k-250K ICN ... for the rest the real value is in trading (selling high buying low). And I am talking about people at least in Africa and Est Europe where few hundred USD / year profit actually means something in practical terms and not for the western countries where this kind of profit would probably mean a couple of evening dinners at an average restaurant.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold.
Its not earning for doing nothing. You didn't do anything to earn those BTC/USD/ETH with which you bought the ICNs? When you invested 3-4 BTC and you end up earning few dollars a year ... that is peanuts. What do you think the ROI will be ? 3-5 years ? That is BS ... that is an eternity in crypto world. The ROI has to be less than a year, and hope for at least another year of profits until all goes to shit. You will not retire after investing few BTC in an ICO ... neither will you have any Lambos from such activity. If you were able to invest a really big chunk of money in this ... you probably already have a Lambo or something similar, and most probably do not read BTT
You are right, now is not the age of nxt 80 btc became 100k btc story, or xem 90 btc became 160k btc.
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
I see many are talking about dividends and retiring while I am sure most of them have some thousands ICNs (maybe). I am not sure what dividends people are expecting ... I doubt the value will be higher than a few cents / ICN / year. So really ... what money that would mean ... ? few $ / year for some one that invested few hundreds usd ? that is peanuts ... in risk / reward terms its just doesn't worth. Lets be honest ... dividends are for those that have > 100k-250K ICN ... for the rest the real value is in trading (selling high buying low). And I am talking about people at least in Africa and Est Europe where few hundred USD / year profit actually means something in practical terms and not for the western countries where this kind of profit would probably mean a couple of evening dinners at an average restaurant.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold.
Its not earning for doing nothing. You didn't do anything to earn those BTC/USD/ETH with which you bought the ICNs? When you invested 3-4 BTC and you end up earning few dollars a year ... that is peanuts. What do you think the ROI will be ? 3-5 years ? That is BS ... that is an eternity in crypto world. The ROI has to be less than a year, and hope for at least another year of profits until all goes to shit. You will not retire after investing few BTC in an ICO ... neither will you have any Lambos from such activity. If you were able to invest a really big chunk of money in this ... you probably already have a Lambo or something similar, and most probably do not read BTT
Even at $1, you say at 1000 ICN is just ok getting $1000 a week as dividents?
For me it sounds to much of delusion. Iconomi has to produce over 3 billion $ in a year. Am I missing something?
Hey, you set the bar high, you better live up to the expectations you're creating.
Are you talking about weekly or monthly or yearly dividends?
If you are talking about weekly dividends, then it is simply not possible. If that happens, I would be driving Lambo in some weeks only.
For one year, it is possible to get $ 1 per ICN.
Yearly, of course.
You make sure you hand out $1 per token, and those tokens are gonna worth $100/$1000 each.
You are all worrying about dividends which won't go live for at least 2 months 
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold. But I would prefer the dividends to increase in time while the value of token is also growing. If its going to happen in less than 2 months, I'd be one of the user who'd retire early.
No it's not, it's shit.
$10 is good, $1 is ok, $0.10 is bad, anything under $0.10 should be considered a colossal failure.
Are you talking about weekly or monthly or yearly dividends?
If you are talking about weekly dividends, then it is simply not possible. If that happens, I would be driving Lambo in some weeks only. $ 1 per ICN means profit of more than $100 million in one week. How is it possible.
For one year, it is possible to get $ 1 per ICN dividends.
Me too will be very satisfied with $ 0.1 weekly dividends per ICN.
You are all worrying about dividends which won't go live for at least 2 months
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold. But I would prefer the dividends to increase in time while the value of token is also growing. If its going to happen in less than 2 months, I'd be one of the user who'd retire early.
No it's not, it's shit.
$10 is good, $1 is ok, $0.10 is bad, anything under $0.10 should be considered a colossal failure.
You are all worrying about dividends which won't go live for at least 2 months
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold. But I would prefer the dividends to increase in time while the value of token is also growing. If its going to happen in less than 2 months, I'd be one of the user who'd retire early.
No it's not, it's shit.
$10 is good, $1 is ok, $0.10 is bad, anything under $0.10 should be considered a colossal failure.
Even at $1, you say at 1000 ICN is just ok getting $1000 a week as dividents?
For me it sounds to much of delusion. Iconomi has to produce over 3 billion $ in a year. Am I missing something?
You are all worrying about dividends which won't go live for at least 2 months
>2 months
shit
Hope this dividends are like a 1$ per token.
Even if its just a cent its still good for that proves someone that holds ICN can earn doing nothing but just hold. But I would prefer the dividends to increase in time while the value of token is also growing. If its going to happen in less than 2 months, I'd be one of the user who'd retire early.
No it's not, it's shit.
$10 is good, $1 is ok, $0.10 is bad, anything under $0.10 should be considered a colossal failure.
No problem. Anyway, most of the meaningful information is not here, but on reddit.
I didn't find there also any answer for the relevant questions I have ... all bla bla bla and avoiding the answers to the real questions.
And the sad things is they are around here too, they see the questions but they just ignores them with great pride. True bussiness mens ... I truly envies them for being able to work like this.
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