Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 58. (Read 1253940 times)
02.08.2017 open platform. Verified and underscores.
Did you read the link you posted? It states that they will launch in 2019 
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Why would it be shady? Are you even capable of pointing where is that without googleMaps? If you try to spreed FUD, sell your stash and buy some shitcoins. Or open your own platform if you know it better
"Shady Middlemen" because:
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Now you tell me how investors are supposed to trust them with millions of dollars if ICN holders are ever going to see any dividends.
Yes you are right, now i see it, i will go and buy Purevidz or Taas or some other of the great projects that people mention here .........
Neither of those are like Iconomi you guys are comparing apples and oranges.
MelonPort = Decentralized & Trustless Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Why would it be shady? Are you even capable of pointing where is that without googleMaps? If you try to spreed FUD, sell your stash and buy some shitcoins. Or open your own platform if you know it better
"Shady Middlemen" because:
[
Now you tell me how investors are supposed to trust them with millions of dollars if ICN holders are ever going to see any dividends.
Yes you are right, now i see it, i will go and buy Purevidz or Taas or some other of the great projects that people mention here .........
Neither of those are like Iconomi you guys are comparing apples and oranges.
MelonPort = Decentralized & Trustless Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?
I love my future...
I hope they go big with Gnosis (but they don't overpay with this new auction system), I have some reservations about their two tokens but I think it's one of the most awaited ICOs this year. Byteball investment was genius, I wasn't even aware of the project like you said and they scooped it all up. I hope they can take some profits already though since they will be getting upcoming shares in future distributions. The price doesn't seem sustainable right now.
This one seems interesting too, especially because of the huge dating market, but it's not only just a decentralized dating platform, it's more like a hub to find similar interest across the globe:
http://matchpool.co
can you actually say they are legit and that its possible ICONOMI team will invest to them somehow?
its true dating market is huge. the nerds are always finding dates online and guess what. most if not all kids today grow up as nerds lol, i guess online dating is the future.
I would like to ask everyone here, whether anyone tried it to get started in trading mercatox to trade ICONOMI ??
I have the feeling that most have not recognized the potential as a whole so far.
The intrinsic value ultimately results not only from the dividends, but from the sum of all that iconomi will offer.
-Index Fund
-Performance Fund
-Fund Manager Platform (with many managers and funds...)
-Dividend payment - Calculation of all transactions made within the Platform
-Debit card
...
The blockchain market as a whole, which will rise ...
This investment is a long term investment.
I do not understand what people do here, which keep coins for a maximum of three months usually.
Ultimately for information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
Happy investing and don´t feed the trolls.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Why would it be shady? Are you even capable of pointing where is that without googleMaps? If you try to spreed FUD, sell your stash and buy some shitcoins. Or open your own platform if you know it better
"Shady Middlemen" because:
[
Now you tell me how investors are supposed to trust them with millions of dollars if ICN holders are ever going to see any dividends.
Yes you are right, now i see it, i will go and buy Purevidz or Taas or some other of the great projects that people mention here .........
Neither of those are like Iconomi you guys are comparing apples and oranges.
MelonPort = Decentralized & Trustless Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
didnt take you long to become Fudder. I think all has been answered already. Non-believers and impatient people should buy some Apple stocks or so.
You can now use the TREZOR Hardware wallet to manage your ICN - https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/
Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?
I love my future...
It doesn't take a noodle to see that you can make much bigger returns investing in ICOs directly, than from ICNP dividends.
You can exist from an ICO investment any time you please, but with ICNP; you are trapped waiting for minuscule dividends that may never come.
Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?
I love my future...
I hope they go big with Gnosis (but they don't overpay with this new auction system), I have some reservations about their two tokens but I think it's one of the most awaited ICOs this year. Byteball investment was genius, I wasn't even aware of the project like you said and they scooped it all up. I hope they can take some profits already though since they will be getting upcoming shares in future distributions. The price doesn't seem sustainable right now.
This one seems interesting too, especially because of the huge dating market, but it's not only just a decentralized dating platform, it's more like a hub to find similar interest across the globe:
http://matchpool.co
Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?
I love my future...
Who cares about Poloniex, a place where Pascal coin and ETC pump and dump, shady business all around, you don't even know what they do behind curtains. Kraken has a lot more reputation since they can deal with fiat (in the US) and they listed ICN without major issues.
As for Melon Port, well go ahead an invest in those tokens, you don't even know what's the total supply, they will mint more for expenses...ok. Melonport sounds great though in the long run since the team seems very professional and that can only add value to Ethereum ecosystem eventually, but I don't see the investment there. Tokens are not like blockchain coins/assets which are a integral part of the network itself.
Same for Augur for example or First Blood, you get dividends or profits per transaction, it makes sense to hold them.
That's what worried me. They just said more will be released later, but give no specifics whatsoever. For all I know the ICO is going to be 5% of total coins and my investment will be worth fuck all.
It is an interesting project and I will keep an eye on it, but I would much rather own shares in the platform.
I have no idea why this guy is obsessed with Polo. How many company shares are traded on Polo? None.
EDIT: Just found this discussion on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/melonproject/comments/5ok42j/melonport_contribution_vs_inflation/
These guys are going to have absolutely enormous inflationary pressure relative to the tokens available at the ICO. They will generate more tokens each year than is initially available to the public at their ICO. It could be a very successful company whilst leaving its initial investors with absolutely jack shit. For it to be a worthwhile investment it would have to grow very large, very quickly.
I agree, seems similar to Lykke, I participated in the ICO without much research, then I saw that basically it was completely overvalued with a fixed price of 0.05 CHF and more than a billion coins, lol, sold instantly back to BTC (which by then started a huge rally before the end of the year). At least those were actually shares in Lykke company and they already have a very nice working product I must say.
But with Melonport, they ask for a lot without anything close to being ready, what do you think it will happen in the meantime from the ICO to 2018-2019? The mother of all dumps! Also like I said, they aim to decentralize Iconomi, so their project is much more ambitious, perhaps in 5 years we can vote to move certain aspects of Iconomi to Melonport as we won't need Cashila to handle it all, but that could take almost a decade to become a reality if at all.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Why would it be shady? Are you even capable of pointing where is that without googleMaps? If you try to spreed FUD, sell your stash and buy some shitcoins. Or open your own platform if you know it better
"Shady Middlemen" because:
[
Now you tell me how investors are supposed to trust them with millions of dollars if ICN holders are ever going to see any dividends.
Yes you are right, now i see it, i will go and buy Purevidz or Taas or some other of the great projects that people mention here .........
Good just go! It will be better for you and for us
Also, sell your ICN tokens if you have any, so I can buy them cheaply
You do know the meaning of irony , yes ?
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head
charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...
Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.
We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.
That's exactly why MelonPort can be listed on Poloniex while ICN will NEVER EVER be listed on Polo since ICN is a security.
MelonPort ICO is starting next week and ending March 15, and will probably list on Polo soon after, while ICN will NEVER make it to Poloniex.
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Who cares about Poloniex, a place where Pascal coin and ETC pump and dump, shady business all around, you don't even know what they do behind curtains. Kraken has a lot more reputation since they can deal with fiat (in the US) and they listed ICN without major issues.
As for Melon Port, well go ahead an invest in those tokens, you don't even know what's the total supply, they will mint more for expenses...ok. Melonport sounds great though in the long run since the team seems very professional and that can only add value to Ethereum ecosystem eventually, but I don't see the investment there. Tokens are not like blockchain coins/assets which are a integral part of the network itself.
Same for Augur for example or First Blood, you get dividends or profits per transaction, it makes sense to hold them.
i searched for melonenpot and found this
i dont know if thats a good investment :O
i dont know if thats a good investment :O
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head
charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...
Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.
We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.
That's exactly why MelonPort can be listed on Poloniex while ICN will NEVER EVER be listed on Polo since ICN is a security.
MelonPort ICO is starting next week and ending March 15, and will probably list on Polo soon after, while ICN will NEVER make it to Poloniex.
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
That's exactly why MelonPort can be listed on Poloniex while ICN will NEVER EVER be listed on Polo since ICN is a security.
MelonPort ICO is starting next week and ending March 15, and will probably list on Polo soon after, while ICN will NEVER make it to Poloniex.
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
http://imgur.com/a/RL9Wx
Melonpoort looks awesome.
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head
charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...
Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.
We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.
That's exactly why MelonPort can be listed on Poloniex while ICN will NEVER EVER be listed on Polo since ICN is a security.
MelonPort ICO is starting next week and ending March 15, and will probably list on Polo soon after, while ICN will NEVER make it to Poloniex.
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Quote from: Warren_Buffett link=topic=1587736.msg17756884#msg17756884
MelonPort = Decentralized & Trustless Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
Agreed, this project is dead, just traded my ICN for melons.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Why would it be shady? Are you even capable of pointing where is that without googleMaps? If you try to spreed FUD, sell your stash and buy some shitcoins. Or open your own platform if you know it better
"Shady Middlemen" because:
[
Now you tell me how investors are supposed to trust them with millions of dollars if ICN holders are ever going to see any dividends.
Yes you are right, now i see it, i will go and buy Purevidz or Taas or some other of the great projects that people mention here .........
Neither of those are like Iconomi you guys are comparing apples and oranges.
MelonPort = Decentralized & Trustless Iconomi
http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/
Game Over Iconomi
Hey fuckface give it up already, nobody is bothering to listen to your lame ass FUD lmao.
The walls and whales have already been seen in ICN and there will be no stopping this train once it leaves the station....sorry your dumbass wont be on it.
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.
Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?
Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head
charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...
Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.
We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.
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