Topic: [ANN] Introducing Neuralium - the green, fair and universal post-quantum token! - page 2. (Read 2039 times)

I see, the project is progressing since the last time I checked. If the trials is a success, I will definitely mine this. It's a good thing that you keep updating the community of what is happening. Now a lot of people are interested.

Why don't you Link the discord invite in the first page? Some might not find it due to being in the second page just like me. By the way, Keep up the good work.

Hey everyone,  well that's it; we completed and survived our second trial run. I can't believe it, nothing actually caught on fire, wow. 

Not that we did not have a few hickups but overall it was reasonably stable and i think a successful run. Also the guys testing the system have been amazing. thank you all for trying it and especially to everyone who reported bugs.

Here are my observations on the system at this point.  The overall code seems to work very well. The mining also works, which is great news. I did identify more serious issues in the performance of the network stack. At this point, I think that it is our Achilles heel. We actually had many nodes on the network during the last 24 hours, it was a popular run! Being a p2p it's impossible to know how many joined, but on the nodes that I put up I saw the connection pools fill up completely. And this is where the problems happened. I noticed that under heavy load, the network chokes. 

the good news is that I know why. A design choice that seemed like a good idea 10 months ago is proving to be a bad idea under load. (launching a thread per gossip messages. they end up filling the workflow queue and on weaker machines like containers, the CPU chokes. then it starts skipping message frames and all hell breaks loose with it's peers since we start having timeouts and losing messages. this hurts the sync and some peers lose connection entirely). 

the good news is that this is the only major issue that I spotted. the rest are minor bugs that we can fix in time. SO, at this moment in time, here is how I see the schedule happening.  I will need to retire from public life starting tomorrow for 3 full days to refactor the network stack and eliminate these issues. so you might not hear much from us because I need to focus to concentrate otherwise I wont get anything done. It might be silent, but that's because we are working hard to improve the code.

Then, we will then launch a third and last trial run of 24h next Wednesday evening to test the new stack on the network load. then, depending on the results, we will reevaluate and decide if we are ready to move on for a full week to test for better longevity.

voila. before I close and disappear for 3 days, I want to add the following:

A VERY, VERY sincere thank you to everyone who trusted us, installed and tried out our node. Its really amazing that you were part of this and we REALLY appreciate it. And more than anything, we appreciate the trust that you extended us; and we want to live up to it. so yes, thanks


see you soon.

thats cool!!

For the diff, we have a big advantage other tokens don't have. Since our mining works differently (its a mathematical election), we can actually have multiple thousand of miners per block. we tested 10,000 no problem in our unit testing systems, but we know we can go higher too. Im not saying we will always go that high since it would choke the gossip, but its technically possible.

this means that variance will be much better on our token than any other. Of course in the future we will have special mining pools for the purpose of redistributing the bounties.

for the counter I had not thought of that, but we will see if we can do, its a good idea. In the meantime, the first thing for us is to stabilize the system, this is our top and only priority, so we dont know when we will be ready for mainnet. but we are pretty confident it will be in October.

this might be worth watching here. waiting for the mining date announcement! lets hope that the difficulty will not rise exponentially and let other small miners get something of this coin.
are you going to put your countdown timer on your website as it might be easier for others to track this project? on my part, i will bookmark your site so not to forget. because of so many projects you tend to forget a lot of them.

thanks Fonship, you will absolutely be able to mine from day one.  We really want to make it fair to all, so we will advertise very clearly the start day and time, when we feel confident enough to launch. so everyone will have time to prepare for the 0 hour.  other than that, our mining is really without any particular needs so if you have a computer even an old laptop to old mobile phone, you can mine. piece of cake really.

even if you are already mining other coins, you can mine ours, because they can fit on the same computer no problem, our token takes virtually no resource at all so they can coexist. so mine twice with our stuff

anyways, the takeaway is that the launch will be well advertised so you wont miss it. hope to see you there!

So far so good, appears to be a genuine serious altcoin project. Would love to mine from day one.

Hey everyone,

ok, our first trial round went pretty well all things considered, we are now ready for our TESTNET trial run II. The trial will run for 24 hours after which we will again stop it all and fix bugs that were encountered.

you can download the wallet here:

https://www.neuralium.com/download-testnet

make sure you get the latest version as the old ones wont work anymore.

Ok, I gotta warn you, figuratively speaking, this thing will surely catch on fire!. So make sure to keep your helmets on and bring marshmallows, we can grill them on the burning node and make a bonfire.   

On a more serious note, we made various fixes. One of the most prominent is your fellow peer nodes will now report if they can see your p2p port 33888 open and you can view this consensus result in the wallet gui next to the mine button in the mining tab. This will help to know if you configured it correctly for mining.  if you do not intend to mine, the sharing port does not need to be open (though remember that in p2p, it's always good etiquette to have this port open at all times,  be it neuralium, bitcoin, ethereum or which other, so it really should always be accessible no matter what). Other than that we fixed the issues with block hashing that killed the sync last time.

We are always available if anything. if there are troubles, we will scramble to fix them. hopefully you get to mine. come and see us in the chats if there is anything.

crossing fingers... 

N.B.:  some people were wondering if we only ship the GUI wallet. The wallet download actually does contains the console daemon in it's folder called "neuralium". Though the cli interface is not yet ready, it will be ready for mainnet.

that discord invite is expired   nevermind 

Hey sure!  we are prepping up for trial run II. should be ready between 18h to 19h EST.

A fine gentleman (i forget his handle) suggested that we try out Discord. so here we are:

https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG

Come and chat with us, we love to talk crypto and have smart discussions about it.

And between Telegram and Discord, im not aware of the politics between them, so for now we will run with the two platforms and see which one the people "vote for", and go from there.

I will update soon with the trial update.

Looks interesting. I'll follow along and jump on testnet!

Can you drop an invite link to discord? The one I found seems to be expired. Thanks!

Also, not sure that I'm interested in building a GUI wallet for my main machine, would prefer to sandbox it in cli. Any idea when there will be code ready for https://github.com/Neuralium/Neuralium.Cli

Interesting.
Keep us posted, I'll be watching this space.

thanks everyone!  the test is now officially over since we have a bug that crashes block hashing.  Im working on the fixes, we should launch trial II by tomorrow evening.

see you again tomomrrow with an update.

*Turns on loud music and codes like there is no tomorrow...*

while everything looks good and promising, waiting for the test no 2 

Will be glad to help poke around testnet with this.

watching closely 

Hey Everyone!  here is a status update on our TESTNET progress.

so, as you know we launched a first trial run yesterday. We hit a few hickups but nothing major, the essential core of the tech is working.

First I want to say a sincere thank you to everyone that comes and chat with us, and tries our very alpha software. you guys are the discoverers!  

The general response to what we do is pretty awesome. Somebody said that our tech looks alien, which I think is the best kind of compliments. Our tech stack is entirely new, not a fork of anything, and I worked hard to make sure that it was different than the rest.  Others have successfully mined and saw that it really uses no CPU at all. actually, any CPU usage you see is just the p2p gossip validating cryptographic messages. the mining in it self is invisible. pretty cool.

And yes, I saw the previous comment, absolutely, im making it official that the very first member of the public to mine Neuraliums in TESTNET was borderline from Italy. Now I have to take my Godfather voice to say "Michael,  bene, bene..."  

So, the bug we had yesterday was a bad offset in the key index, causing keys to loaded wrong and because of this gossip messages were failing validation. It is now fixed.

so the testnet is still going actually, so you can still try it right now. just make sure to download the latest wallet and delete the .neuralium folder in your home directory to force a resync.

today, I will continue fixing bugs, and getting ready for trial run II, tomorrow evening

first to mine a block on test net!! and i love the wallet style.

Hey TimeTeller, you are absolutely right about the missing references. I've been overwhelmed with the huge amounts of things to prepare to be ready to present myself here, so I have a lot of loose ends to close. I will try to have the references in by Mainnet. the whitepaper is meant to be alive and evolving as we go.

as for performance, I positive that it will be even better than you think. That's because we've been running it here for a while, we know what it can do. We also have the mobile wallet which is going to be pretty amazing. Launches in testnet in about 2 to 3 weeks.  that will get interesting.

anyways, go try it! its live right now

we appreciate your comments so come chat with us:


https://t.me/neuralium_chat

You forgot to include your reference materials used on your whitepaper.
Without a doubt, you used reference articles to come up with this concept and not inventing the whole thing, right?
The listed features of your technology are quite great but actual performance might be different.

thanks!  I'm really happy, there seems to be a lot of interest in what we do. and it's just the beginning.

So, our Trial run I is now online and will be so for the next 24h. It could be a bumpy ride so put your helmets on; its our very first public trial and we are not quite sure how it will behave with a live network. but it's fun... 

you can download the wallet here:

https://www.neuralium.com/download-testnet

Please note that in order to mine, you must open your p2p port 33888.  Open it in your firewall and forward it to your node. If a node is not connectable from the outside, it wont obtain any bounty when mining. (a node not online doesn't get rewards, it's just fair for all to be nice and share.).

Also, since we are getting a lot of questions, the white paper is available here:

https://www.neuralium.com/neuralium-whitepaper.pdf

and a FAQ here for your convenience:

https://www.neuralium.com/faq


Now crossing fingers...