[ANN] IPO of MaidSafe: Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet - page 152.

fluffypony

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Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 08:35:12 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on April 24, 2014, 08:32:55 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

Huh? Those aren't "open comments" and they certainly aren't put there by the sender. Bitcoin doesn't have transaction comments or transaction messages or whatever. Anyone can label an address on blockchain.info, see https://blockchain.info/tags - those tags then show up everywhere the address appears on blockchain.info

The coins go back to this well known address

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew

Yes - wasn't disagreeing with you, Blockchain.info still have to approve tags based on the reference material:)

appsam920

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maidsafe, return the coins to mtgox investors. the price of BTC will shoot up.

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Quote from: fluffypony on April 24, 2014, 08:32:55 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

Huh? Those aren't "open comments" and they certainly aren't put there by the sender. Bitcoin doesn't have transaction comments or transaction messages or whatever. Anyone can label an address on blockchain.info, see https://blockchain.info/tags - those tags then show up everywhere the address appears on blockchain.info

Sorry for that.

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You have got to be kidding me. This is some crazy shit!!!!

What kind of bothers me about maidsafe is that when I went to see the dev team on their site, they have no photos, only names.

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Quote from: fluffypony on April 24, 2014, 08:32:55 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

Huh? Those aren't "open comments" and they certainly aren't put there by the sender. Bitcoin doesn't have transaction comments or transaction messages or whatever. Anyone can label an address on blockchain.info, see https://blockchain.info/tags - those tags then show up everywhere the address appears on blockchain.info

The coins go back to this well known address

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew

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Quote from: azwccc on April 24, 2014, 08:29:18 AM

Quote from: appsam920 on April 24, 2014, 08:22:08 AM

Maidsafe, stay safe. you might get arrested for dealing with stolen mtgox coins

If maidsafe really honor the coins from mtgox, is this sth called m**** laundering?

"We are making a history: sale of $6 million in five hours, a record for any kind of crowd-sale! The magic is still live!"

Do you even believe that's normal

omfg Roll Eyes

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Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

Huh? Those aren't "open comments" and they certainly aren't put there by the sender. Bitcoin doesn't have transaction comments or transaction messages or whatever. Anyone can label an address on blockchain.info, see https://blockchain.info/tags - those tags then show up everywhere the address appears on blockchain.info

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Quote from: appsam920 on April 24, 2014, 08:22:08 AM

Maidsafe, stay safe. you might get arrested for dealing with stolen mtgox coins

If maidsafe really honor the coins from mtgox, is this sth called m**** laundering?

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Maidsafe, stay safe. you might get arrested for dealing with stolen mtgox coins

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Quote from: dirvine on April 24, 2014, 08:04:02 AM

Quote from: EvilDave on April 24, 2014, 07:56:57 AM

Quote from: crimealone on April 24, 2014, 06:24:45 AM

You guys are all talking about tech specifications. No one cares about morality, about what they have done.

I'm going to assume that individual users data will be encrypted, split and then distributed to the network, so that no single farmer will be hosting a complete copy of an individual users data. This will mean that any individual farmers drive will contain a mix of random chunks of various users data. This also means that no farmer will be hosting complete copies of illegal content, (hopefully, otherwise in deep shit) but will open up all MS farmers/users and MS itself to government/law-enforcement scrutiny on this point.

I really cant see law enforcement allowing MS to roll this out without providing a backdoor for them to access/check content, but allowing a backdoor will kill the central points of security and anonymity. Has MS given any thought to this?

Yes, the data is always encrypted chunked compressed and obfuscated. A huge part of the crowd sale was the importance of making this a global community. So the community are now taking over, creating their own forums etc. We will assist in setting up international independent dev pools. This is our best protection as the code becomes more community owned and importantly community driven. When we have devs from all over the place working on the core then we will be protected against such issues. I would hope if MaidSafe were forced to put in a backdoor

1: I would certainly quit immediately

2: I think many, if not all staff would do likewise

3: The community would detect this and ban us from any repository immediately.

I have said to many people this is evolution, you cannot stop evolution. We all need to change our ways as new tech happens (bitcoin for instance). Sometimes the harder the man pushes the tougher the crowd becomes. I think natural evolution will give us a free Internet and this is our shot at it. Somebody else may do it better and that is cool, as long as it happens.

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Quote from: superresistant on April 24, 2014, 07:33:37 AM

Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 07:30:02 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.
Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

No, I just confirmed it. This are Mtgox's Bitcoins
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E?offset=400&filter=0 - MaidSafe
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KzHa54Qt7V75VmEsSjP2MddPxb7Mwr1fc
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Hi2bwsu3W3h7UDrbNUuxRG4x4s4HxtWo7
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1BH8FS6Yd9WvPZ1LDDWNpqXdzX8Q3freL9
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KGA7TLtUwjZuM5fyyYwGXfviPJdVCc8rY
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe - 64,000 BTC
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew - Mtgox

LOL

Did you really think that ALL the BTC invested in MaidSafe where from real people ?

Come on...

I'm a fucking genius

I discovered this cause the movements were similar to Karpele's bot

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Holy shit how come WIRED and other news didnt investigate them before publishing anything? They made me loose 3btc :/

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Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 07:30:02 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.
Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

No, I just confirmed it. This are Mtgox's Bitcoins
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E?offset=400&filter=0 - MaidSafe
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KzHa54Qt7V75VmEsSjP2MddPxb7Mwr1fc
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Hi2bwsu3W3h7UDrbNUuxRG4x4s4HxtWo7
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1BH8FS6Yd9WvPZ1LDDWNpqXdzX8Q3freL9
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KGA7TLtUwjZuM5fyyYwGXfviPJdVCc8rY
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe - 64,000 BTC
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew - Mtgox

LOL

Did you really think that ALL the BTC invested in MaidSafe where from real people ?

Come on...

EDIT : Indeed templar77, you are a genius. It was quite obvious for me but I was too lazing to check all the blockchain. Good work.

templar77

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Quote from: mcjavar on April 24, 2014, 07:25:27 AM

Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

No, I just confirmed it. This are Mtgox's Bitcoins

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E?offset=400&filter=0 - MaidSafe
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KzHa54Qt7V75VmEsSjP2MddPxb7Mwr1fc
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Hi2bwsu3W3h7UDrbNUuxRG4x4s4HxtWo7
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1BH8FS6Yd9WvPZ1LDDWNpqXdzX8Q3freL9
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KGA7TLtUwjZuM5fyyYwGXfviPJdVCc8rY
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe - 64,000 BTC
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew - Mtgox

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Hm, nice investigation. But who would send funds with open comments like that? Anyway, the 64 000 is a lot, but considering that a guy just paid 10 000 BTC for two pizzas a few years ago, it´s possible that an early adopter/miner has such a big stake.

Or those are the guys that stole the bitcoins from MtGox, as they also have to make "legal" bitcoins out of it somehow.

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