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Topic: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet - page 55. (Read 579992 times)

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There won't be a Maidsafe dev-update today so I thought I'd give a little update here on 2016 and the upcoming stuff for 2017. This is a complete un-official update so to speak.

2016:

  • Loads of work done (several people several weeks) on getting "Crust" ready. This is the lowest layer where IP-addresses and NAT and hole punching take part. Maidsafe wanted SAFE to be
    encrypted from bit 1. So the public keys to connect to the bootstrap-servers are used from bit 1. Your node connects over an encrypted layer to the bootstrap-server and gets IP's from other users to connect to. This work payed off very well as I was able to connect to around 30 tot 40 nodes under a few seconds in several test-nets from home. All these connection were encrypted so no ISP will ever understand what you do on SAFE if they look from the outside.
  • This year we finally saw test-nets with "Vaults" which we ran from home. This is also very important as SAFE will be a fully encrypted P2P-network that stores everything from websites to data. We've had around 5 or 6 test-nets with Vaults from home.
  • Another thing we got in 2016 was the client-part of the network. SAFE will never force you to run a Vault, instead everybody should be free to connect to the network and browse websites and data. Maidsafe proved that both "Self_Authentication" and "Self_Encryption" worked like they intended. Same for a decentralized DNS where everyone can register their own public name and/or domain. The concept of SAFE is feasible.
  • Dynamic data was added as well. This means you can own an address on the network, store a .txt file on it which you can change time and time again. The address of the file will stay the same but the bits so to speak can be updated. This is VERY important for every P2P-network that wants to host websites as well. Think of forums, reply-fields and more.
  • Maidsafe sold a piece of the company using BankToTheFuture. The equity sell was successful and Maidsafe formed a joint-venture in Hong-Kong called "Maidsafe Asia".
  • Maidsafe will work with the University of Glasgow where computer science students will build apps and stuff for SAFE.
  • Routing got a complete overhaul as explained in the "Disjoint Groups" RFC. Routing is the layer above "Crust". This was several months work but will make routing more secure.
  • API's were released which let external devs connect their apps to SAFE. A series of tutorials showed the inner workings of these API's and external devs created apps based on them

2017:

  • We are again waiting for Vaults. This shouldn't be that exciting as we already had like 5 or 6 test-nets with Vaults. But here's the catch: In the upcoming Vaults the new routing (Disjoint Groups) is implemented. Each chunk of data will be stored at least 8 times on the network. This is an upgrade from the former 3 times. The new routing will have a system implemented which can merge/split groups when they become to small/big so this will also help data-retention on the network. Remember that all data, including your personal encrypted files are chunked and stored on the network. In the old test-nets people lost their account quite quickly (in days) because of nodes joining and leaving the network. My guess is that data-retention is massively improved with the new routing. No matter what data you need, it's like BitTorrent but with always 8 seeders to serve your needs. When 1 Vaults goes offline, the other 7 will find a new one as fast as possible.
  • Safecoin is next when we have stable vaults on a stable network. We'll see test-Safecoin first. Transactions are expected to finalize under a second. There's no scaling problem as well like with blockchains as SAFE uses a different protocol. Hundreds to thousands of transactions a second will be possible.
  • "Node Ageing" is a protocol where nodes (Vaults) join the network in a secure manner. It will kill slow and corrupt nodes.
  • Farming is what mining is for blockchain networks. It means joining the network, delivering and storing chunks and route data. You get paid Safecoin when you deliver a chunk of data from your Vault.
  • "Archive Nodes" will allow the network to fully crash (like with a worldwide power blackout) and come back online with all data available again. Archive Nodes will store all the data from a group and a "datachain" containing all the hashes from bigger parts of the network.

Hope this gives some idea about the current status of SAFE and the upcoming releases. I'm mostly looking forward to the new Vaults. The team said in November that this is their primary focus: delivering Vaults to the community again. I guess it will be called TEST 12 and it should be there in the coming weeks as they're being tested over the last few weeks.


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There was a little update by Maidsafe's Nick Lambert about the collaboration between Glasgow University and Maidsafe the company.



Looks like the first students will touch the SAFE APIs and code in Q1 2017.
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Lecturer in Software Engineering and Information Security, Dr Inah Omoronyia confirmed “It’s a great opportunity for our students at Glasgow University to get hands-on experience with building apps for the SAFE network. Security and privacy functions is now core to modern day software systems; our students are really excited to learn new ways of building such systems using cutting-edge technology.”

https://blog.maidsafe.net/2016/09/29/glasgow-university-students-to-use-the-safe-network/

And according to this article around 170 students will develop for/on the SAFE Network.

http://futurescot.com/university-glasgow-adopts-next-generation-internet-technology/

My guess is they will use these dev-tutorials to build Apps and connect/interact with the SAFE Network

https://tutorials.safedev.org/

These tutorials cover things like: email, websites with comments, WebRTC video/chat and a markdown editor. Let's hope we'll see some great applications come out of it.

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Is there ia local desktop wallet available for MAID ?


Also, I am not following the news with MAID, and get confused with what
I am reading about the new safiecoin

Could i get a short brief about what is the link between the 2 coins?

thanks

There isn't for the moment but you could store your Maidsafecoins in any bitcoin address that you control its private keys or you could store them at Omniwallet which should give you the ability to see the omni tokens inside your bitcoin address and that's something electrum and the other wallets don't do.
When the Safe network is finally released , you will be able to trade your Maidsafecoins for Safecoins with 1:1 rates. In other words Safecoins is the real thing and didn't get launched yet and Maidsafecoins is what people bought from the ICO but they do have the same value and you will be able to trade them once Safecoins are created.
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Is there ia local desktop wallet available for MAID ?


Also, I am not following the news with MAID, and get confused with what
I am reading about the new safiecoin

Could i get a short brief about what is the link between the 2 coins?

thanks
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I understand that we will be able to trade MaidSafeCoin for Safecoins once everything is functional but I want to know how much coins were sold during the ICO ? I don't think It's 450 million otherwise farming wouldn't make any sense.
Is the website subject to translations too ? I can do that If It's helps but I can't find the source code for it to make a pull request. IMO , the project is doing just fine but there is definitely a lack of advertisement , they could run a signature campaign and bounties-translations programs  and that would've make it much better.


Yes, Maidsafecoins can be traded for Safecoin on a 1-on-1 basis when Farming and Safecoin are implemented and tested. Each Safecoin has it's own address in 32-bit so the max number is 4.3 billion in total. During the crowdfund something went wrong with the mastercoin protocol that should've prevented the creation more than 430 million coins. So due to an error 450 million Maidsafecoins were created before the "stop" signal/transaction got into a block. So a bit more than 10% of the maximum number of possible "Safecoins" is out there. Farming won't create new coins that fast is my expectation. Especially when more people try to farm them by providing resources to the network. It will bring down the Farming Reward per MB of data. So the network should balance out independent from the price of a Safecoin. We'll have test_Safecoin tested for quite some time before the real thing is implemented. Farming will be tested as well.

At this moment no translations going for the website as far as I know. But Maidsafe formed a joint venture in Hong Kong this year so who knows what's coming.

 
legendary
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I understand that we will be able to trade MaidSafeCoin for Safecoins once everything is functional but I want to know how much coins were sold during the ICO ? I don't think It's 450 million otherwise farming wouldn't make any sense.
Is the website subject to translations too ? I can do that If It's helps but I can't find the source code for it to make a pull request. IMO , the project is doing just fine but there is definitely a lack of advertisement , they could run a signature campaign and bounties-translations programs  and that would've make it much better.
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How completed are the translations of the mentioned languages ? I could definitely help If It's needed , should I submit a pull request on the Github repo or simply post in the forums ?

Quite complete I think, but all help is welcome because the new "Launcher" will be build in the Beaker browser. So yes please, join the forum and contact the folks who are doing translations right now.
I can do the Hindi translation should you need.Which forum can we get this info from ?

That would be great!

This is the topic and "Mav" is the user to coordinate all these efforts.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843

You want to download his project from Github as a .zip:



The instructions are here. I did some translations as well and used Notepad++ as an editor. Works quite well:

https://github.com/iancoleman/safe_launcher/tree/alpha-i18n#adding-translations

So would be great if you could help out.

Here's the Chinese version for Windows, looks nice:



Use this link if you want The Launcher in different languages. It connects you to the Maidsafe Alpha 1 network where you can test several SAFE features like publishing and browsing websites and storage.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843/39



Who translated the Chinese? Bad translation, they need a pro translator, not just a suck translator

This is a community driven effort. Maidsafe will probably hire a pro for their upcoming releases as the whole Launcher got removed and will become part of the SAFE browser. Until that moment people are putting in some efforts to translate the current Launcher so everybody can try the alpha 1 network in their own language. If you spot errors feel free to come up with a pull request on GitHub. all info in this topic.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843

I don't speak any Chinese at all so I have no clue  Grin   
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How completed are the translations of the mentioned languages ? I could definitely help If It's needed , should I submit a pull request on the Github repo or simply post in the forums ?

Quite complete I think, but all help is welcome because the new "Launcher" will be build in the Beaker browser. So yes please, join the forum and contact the folks who are doing translations right now.
I can do the Hindi translation should you need.Which forum can we get this info from ?

That would be great!

This is the topic and "Mav" is the user to coordinate all these efforts.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843

You want to download his project from Github as a .zip:



The instructions are here. I did some translations as well and used Notepad++ as an editor. Works quite well:

https://github.com/iancoleman/safe_launcher/tree/alpha-i18n#adding-translations

So would be great if you could help out.

Here's the Chinese version for Windows, looks nice:



Use this link if you want The Launcher in different languages. It connects you to the Maidsafe Alpha 1 network where you can test several SAFE features like publishing and browsing websites and storage.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843/39



Who translated the Chinese? Bad translation, they need a pro translator, not just a suck translator
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the price right now is too good..

looks like this will be the coin for 2017
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The Beaker Browser is created by Paul Frazee. It's a browser optimized and specialized for distributed websites on networks like SAFE and IPFS. Maidsafe and the SAFE community funded a developer to fork the beaker browser to work with SAFE. This process is almost done and Maidsafe will bundle the browser in upcoming releases. For SAFE it's called: The SAFE Beaker Browser.




Here's a presentation by Paul if you want to learn more about Beaker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi-kreA52oI
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How completed are the translations of the mentioned languages ? I could definitely help If It's needed , should I submit a pull request on the Github repo or simply post in the forums ?

Quite complete I think, but all help is welcome because the new "Launcher" will be build in the Beaker browser. So yes please, join the forum and contact the folks who are doing translations right now.
I can do the Hindi translation should you need.Which forum can we get this info from ?

That would be great!

This is the topic and "Mav" is the user to coordinate all these efforts.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843

You want to download his project from Github as a .zip:



The instructions are here. I did some translations as well and used Notepad++ as an editor. Works quite well:

https://github.com/iancoleman/safe_launcher/tree/alpha-i18n#adding-translations

So would be great if you could help out.

Here's the Chinese version for Windows, looks nice:



Use this link if you want The Launcher in different languages. It connects you to the Maidsafe Alpha 1 network where you can test several SAFE features like publishing and browsing websites and storage.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843/39


Thanks will start working on it Smiley
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100 transactions per sec !!!are we living in still in Stone age Huh
1000 transactions per sec can be done easily ,,,can prove it

100 transactions per second per user

And this is only limited because of the client, the vaults can handle vastly more if needed.

Worth reading this explanation of SafeCoin tx rate which estimates about 40K tx / s / group: https://safenetforum.org/t/profiling-vault-performance/10331/47

Still early days for this, especially given the work currently underway to improve the client side (which is the current bottleneck for tx rate).
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How completed are the translations of the mentioned languages ? I could definitely help If It's needed , should I submit a pull request on the Github repo or simply post in the forums ?

Quite complete I think, but all help is welcome because the new "Launcher" will be build in the Beaker browser. So yes please, join the forum and contact the folks who are doing translations right now.
I can do the Hindi translation should you need.Which forum can we get this info from ?

That would be great!

This is the topic and "Mav" is the user to coordinate all these efforts.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843

You want to download his project from Github as a .zip:



The instructions are here. I did some translations as well and used Notepad++ as an editor. Works quite well:

https://github.com/iancoleman/safe_launcher/tree/alpha-i18n#adding-translations

So would be great if you could help out.

Here's the Chinese version for Windows, looks nice:



Use this link if you want The Launcher in different languages. It connects you to the Maidsafe Alpha 1 network where you can test several SAFE features like publishing and browsing websites and storage.

https://safenetforum.org/t/launcher-with-multiple-languages/11843/39

legendary
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How completed are the translations of the mentioned languages ? I could definitely help If It's needed , should I submit a pull request on the Github repo or simply post in the forums ?

Quite complete I think, but all help is welcome because the new "Launcher" will be build in the Beaker browser. So yes please, join the forum and contact the folks who are doing translations right now.
I can do the Hindi translation should you need.Which forum can we get this info from ?
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Quite a long update. TL;DR

- The Vaults we can run from home are tested again (they have new routing in place called 'Disjoint Groups').
- Lot of updates and refactors to the code.
- The community/Maidsafe sponsored SAFE Browser is approved and will be part of the official repo.
- Progress on the "authenticator" which will replace the current Launcher.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-december-13-2016/11969

Enjoy!@!!
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100 transactions per sec !!!are we living in still in Stone age Huh
1000 transactions per sec can be done easily ,,,can prove it

It is new project, fast actually. i doubt bitcoin can handle 100 tx in 1 sec.
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100 transactions per sec !!!are we living in still in Stone age Huh
1000 transactions per sec can be done easily ,,,can prove it
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Safecoin isn't implemented yet. But Safecoin will be a form of so called "structured data". An external dev did some tests which showed that 1 single group in SAFE can handle over 100 transactions per second.



1 group of nodes shares a routing table and is responsible for a particular range of the addresses in the network. So it might be responsible for Safecoin nr. 100 to 200. In this test it's shown that handling a lot of transactions by 1 group shouldn't be a problem. The good news is that in SAFE these numbers scale if more groups are formed. This was a local test, and of course there's more structured data that the group is responsible for. But this is very promising. You could multiply the number of groups with the number of transactions per second. So if we have 1000 users in 50 groups they might be able to handle 5000 TPS. I really can't wait until we have test-Safecoin to test all this stuff for real  Tongue Tongue Tongue.

https://safenetforum.org/t/profiling-vault-performance/10331/44   

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These rules don't apply to Maidsafe. but Icebreaker likes to troll a bit now and then so we know where it's coming from  Tongue

Thanks for the clarification!

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