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Topic: [ANN] Lina.Review | Community-Driven Review Platform | TGE Event 15th Jan - page 34. (Read 23690 times)

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It should some some positive and negative trust like what we have in bitcointalk.org so that people might know that those helpers are legit and not selling their reviews,so that the system wont be that easy to crack,because these greedy people will always find there way to make money.
It might not happen, why? Because the helpers will automatically remove from the service if the administration or the lina core will find something fishy with their helper. If the helper will always be given an opportunity to prove herself that she is not paid helper and if the lina review will turn to trust system, I think the helpers will take advantage the system.
In our life, we have only one chance, one opportunity to prove ourselves! That's why death is always the risk of life.
You might be right because if you are one of those helpers,you might find a way to get more profits even if you risk your reputation but lets wait for the developers to come and explain how this system will work.

But as of the moment the developer is not appearing themselves to accommodate all the questions of the community who passed by on this thread section. Unless if the ico reach the end of their campaign period then it maybe th e right time for them to respond  to all concerns. But for now all the concerns by many are depending on the whitepaper which has lina.review have.
newbie
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One of the main problems in terms of review is having lack of criteria people who are giving reviews doesnt have any standards in terms or criticing a certain brand or  the product itself in this case the reviewer will be having some difficulties in which product she or he will purchase but in lina project in its platforms states that in every product or services there will be a particular standard given for the reviewer or for the costumers who purchased the pruducts.

I believe Lina.review had already some solution to this.  If you read their whitepaper, they have some qualification to be a helper.  This means helpers have guidelines to follow in reviewing certain products.  I believe that these guidelines will be their basis to qualify these helpers.  Though I wonder if these helpers will be the consumers themselves because if they are not then all their reviews will be questionable since they do not have a first hand experience on the said products which they reviewed.

I agree with what s31joemhar and BitcoinPanther's statements (underlined). In LInA, the Helpers have guidelines or criteria in reviewing certain products. If we will just read the Whitepaper on page 12, a table shows "The strengths of Lina compared to the current system". We can find it in the 2nd column and 4th row of the said table. It says that "Build specific review criteria for each subject with the assistance of available team of Helpers."

This is another major advantage of lina. Having this would improve user experience since they will be seeing specifics as to the product reviews they are viewing. Also, this would eliminate biased reviews since whenever one makes a review, they would have to take into consideration the review criteria existing.
jr. member
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If the users would have a chance to be promoted to be a helper,how will the system knows when these people arent from the brands that these helpers should be reviewed?

I am a little confused on how will this system prevent those abusive people,please enlighten me.

The lina project have a set of qualifications for them to hire an individual or consumer but i don't think that lina will hire someone with out a high set of qualifications or without reviewing their backgrounds

It says in the WP  that LINa Review's Helper Board will be very strict i n the approval for being a Helper due to user-oriented  assessment of the system.

Indeed, it is true what you had read to their WP and that is very normal for the Helper board in the first place. Due to the helpers really need to review the products and services, because in the end after reviewing it will be display separately.
Reviewing the product before they display or sell in the market is one of the best reason of the success of a company and the helper is the one who analyse the said product properly,so meaning the lina.Review will carefully check the qualification of the applicant.
If we didn't review the product obviously the business in the long run will go into failures because no market will come in, isn't right? That is why there is a helper that will check and evaluate the goods and with it they will see the services happen. Therefore lina.eview will work for that matter anyway.



To become a helper, one will need to apply for it, and the application process will require a background check.

That depends on the product, but having someone from a branded company can be a good thing since that might be equal to expertise, and expertise would create high quality reviews.
newbie
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If the users would have a chance to be promoted to be a helper,how will the system knows when these people arent from the brands that these helpers should be reviewed?

I am a little confused on how will this system prevent those abusive people,please enlighten me.

The lina project have a set of qualifications for them to hire an individual or consumer but i don't think that lina will hire someone with out a high set of qualifications or without reviewing their backgrounds

It says in the WP  that LINa Review's Helper Board will be very strict i n the approval for being a Helper due to user-oriented  assessment of the system.

Indeed, it is true what you had read to their WP and that is very normal for the Helper board in the first place. Due to the helpers really need to review the products and services, because in the end after reviewing it will be display separately.
Reviewing the product before they display or sell in the market is one of the best reason of the success of a company and the helper is the one who analyse the said product properly,so meaning the lina.Review will carefully check the qualification of the applicant.
If we didn't review the product obviously the business in the long run will go into failures because no market will come in, isn't right? That is why there is a helper that will check and evaluate the goods and with it they will see the services happen. Therefore lina.eview will work for that matter anyway.



To become a helper, one will need to apply for it, and the application process will require a background check.
jr. member
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I read that you are into REVIEWS and online reputations.
bad and good comment or review are both publicity and this is what every company or seller needs.
How can you make that bad reviews to turn around and make it one of the best impact for the company?
I know this is possible and everyone can do this in their own way!

As per my own opinion the bad reviews of a certain product could become a strong point of a commodity if the people will see that this negative feedback is being developed or being fixed by the company itself that they will see the development of the company in terms of fixing the negative side of their product or company.
It is upon the steps that the firm will do in order to enhance their services. Bad review will either destroy the reputation of the firm or it may be a stepping stone of the firm to collect many clients.
Therefore, a review may bring change to the reputation and services of a firm so it is a must that the reviews are equal and transparent to all.
It should. Bad reviews must be posted as well so not only that costumers/user will be aware, that is also for the advertiser so they can make their products and services better. If Lina will just eliminate the negative one s and posts the positive ones, that is unfair and they will be unreliable platform for reviews.

I dont think that the lina.project was beinh developed just to eliminate those negative revirws of a certain companies. Lina was created for the benefit of the consumers for them to be more aware towards the products that they want to avail as well as the services that the costumers wants to purchase.

That is right sir lina project was not developed to just eliminate the negative review actually it was being developed to have an awareness on the companies and help the costumers on what products to be avail.

What the project eliminates is the gap between the reviewers and the consumers. Now, consumers can communicate with helpers regarding their reviews, the helpers being identified with lina.
newbie
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What a great project,advertiser/merchants will be the main beneficiaries of this decentralized reviews,10% of advertising revenue will be put the whole system? so that the website will have something to pay those helpers so that these people wont need to sell their reviews to these brands or products.
Yeah you are right ,that should be the fees will go thru,to pay those people who are giving reviews to the products/services that these brands wants to get reviewed.So there will be no one that will sell their reviews? because they are already making money with just reviews.

Those experts should be examined very well so there will be no biased/paid reviews in the website.

Politicians and other government employee have high salary and pay roll, though they still corrupt the country they are serving, this can be apply with LINA.REVIEW!
Yes they have payment and budget for helpers, but what will happen if some company that want the best review for their business or product pay some helpers 2 years of their salary in just 1 review?
As far as I know, lina review will focus in the service of the firms and company, not in the government. And I think it is hard to integrate reviews in politics since we all know that the politicians don't have the plan to drop their position in just a matter of review.

Based on my own understanding the lina review is not connected in any political reviews because the focus of this project is to give reviews of the products and services of the said company.

The reviews will be reviewed, if a helper's reviews are not consistent, the helper will be demoted.

In lina, the reviews are standardized. Even helpers will have to follow those review standards. In making their review, they will have to write up more and even if they get paid, they will still follow the standard.
legendary
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I’ve read somewhere, outside this project and not related to Lina that positive reviews can be bought and negative ones can also be paid to be removed and still another says that you can also pay someone to make or post  a negative review on your competitors, how is it then with Lina? Can a certain advertiser pay or give an under the table payment (bribe) to someof the helpers to give them a favorable review?

It is everywhere, most of the reviews are fake, some are paid.
This LINA.REVIEW will hire their own helpers that will do the review for them with the certain product or business.
This platform will try to be transparent to make sure that every review is real and 100% true!
The team will give salary to those helpers that will make them do better. These people who will give the statement will be filtered through their CV and background.
sr. member
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As I read in the white paper about this project,
it states that the lina project is a kind of platform in which we as a consumer can have a transparent review of a certain product or services but how can I make sure that the reviews of the Lina project are credible?

The Lina Token (LINA) is the native token of the Lina Platform. It will be ERC-20 token based on Ethereum, a blockchain-based decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference to facilitate online contractual agreements in a cryptographically secure manner.

Which means you don't need to worry about the capability of Lina due to lina review if I am not mistaken will address issues related to transparency and immutability of the score, as well as develop mechanism to help users and experts earn profits based on system development and the quality of their reviews. I guess this will answer your question sir, where this is base on my understanding according to their whitepaper.




i am not satisfied to your statement, token issues is not the main thing that @s31joemhar wants to hear. It is the transparency of the reviews on the platform itself. company or product owners may not give a solicit to LINA, though company that places their product or establishments to LINA reviews can be not fair due to companies and personnel who owns the products for review can pay for people to boost the product credibility? we don't need to ask how this can happen as we in this forum knows how to earn money by boosting up ones campaign of ICO.


However great the idea is, LInA still has its flaws. They guarantee that the reviews posted on their site can't be tampered with since they are using blockchain technology. But if you think about it, most of the reviews aren't posted impromptu or done without earlier planning or preparation. The Reviewers or Helpers prepare a review then will post it at a later time. I just hope and urge LINA team to somehow empower their Reviewers and Helpers to prevent them from posting an unfair and bias reviews. A great compensation I think will be a good start, besides most of the advertisers, business owners and the like pay more to the most "CREDIBLE" and "RELIABLE" Product Reviews and Rating companies.

In boosting up ones campaign of the ico, was just a normal things in this industry. And for you able to know reviews an reviewers play a  very important role in stimulating demand for products and services and building image for service providers, in practice the review results  are often manipulated by Corporations, large companies through marketing techniques, or even a direct cooperation with the  review  system providers, making it difficult for users to trust the results of product reviews. And this is the reason why Lina.review was being created because of the platform for reviewing on blockchain.

jr. member
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What a great project,advertiser/merchants will be the main beneficiaries of this decentralized reviews,10% of advertising revenue will be put the whole system? so that the website will have something to pay those helpers so that these people wont need to sell their reviews to these brands or products.
Yeah you are right ,that should be the fees will go thru,to pay those people who are giving reviews to the products/services that these brands wants to get reviewed.So there will be no one that will sell their reviews? because they are already making money with just reviews.

Those experts should be examined very well so there will be no biased/paid reviews in the website.

Politicians and other government employee have high salary and pay roll, though they still corrupt the country they are serving, this can be apply with LINA.REVIEW!
Yes they have payment and budget for helpers, but what will happen if some company that want the best review for their business or product pay some helpers 2 years of their salary in just 1 review?
As far as I know, lina review will focus in the service of the firms and company, not in the government. And I think it is hard to integrate reviews in politics since we all know that the politicians don't have the plan to drop their position in just a matter of review.

Based on my own understanding the lina review is not connected in any political reviews because the focus of this project is to give reviews of the products and services of the said company.

The reviews will be reviewed, if a helper's reviews are not consistent, the helper will be demoted.
sr. member
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Sounds promising especially for consumers who spend lots of money purchasing online and looking for reliable reviews regarding products and services. Looking forward to what Lina .review can offer to the public given its powered by Blockchain Technology that provides data transparency. Still, have lots of question in mind as to how they will hire their Helpers and gauge their applicants' personal value and other requirements on the selection process.

Tsk! you know what mate, the promising is not good to say in any form of ico. Though, I can't deny that the project of Lina.review in accordance to their whitepaper was good and very impressive, especially in technical aspect powered by blockchain technology where Lina.review is more on  developing community and building/expanding network of its Helper.
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I’ve read somewhere, outside this project and not related to Lina that positive reviews can be bought and negative ones can also be paid to be removed and still another says that you can also pay someone to make or post  a negative review on your competitors, how is it then with Lina? Can a certain advertiser pay or give an under the table payment (bribe) to someof the helpers to give them a favorable review?
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newbie
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As I read in the white paper about this project,
it states that the lina project is a kind of platform in which we as a consumer can have a transparent review of a certain product or services but how can I make sure that the reviews of the Lina project are credible?

The Lina Token (LINA) is the native token of the Lina Platform. It will be ERC-20 token based on Ethereum, a blockchain-based decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference to facilitate online contractual agreements in a cryptographically secure manner.

Which means you don't need to worry about the capability of Lina due to lina review if I am not mistaken will address issues related to transparency and immutability of the score, as well as develop mechanism to help users and experts earn profits based on system development and the quality of their reviews. I guess this will answer your question sir, where this is base on my understanding according to their whitepaper.




i am not satisfied to your statement, token issues is not the main thing that @s31joemhar wants to hear. It is the transparency of the reviews on the platform itself. company or product owners may not give a solicit to LINA, though company that places their product or establishments to LINA reviews can be not fair due to companies and personnel who owns the products for review can pay for people to boost the product credibility? we don't need to ask how this can happen as we in this forum knows how to earn money by boosting up ones campaign of ICO.

However great the idea is, LInA still has its flaws. They guarantee that the reviews posted on their site can't be tampered with since they are using blockchain technology. But if you think about it, most of the reviews aren't posted impromptu or done without earlier planning or preparation. The Reviewers or Helpers prepare a review then will post it at a later time. I just hope and urge LINA team to somehow empower their Reviewers and Helpers to prevent them from posting an unfair and bias reviews. A great compensation I think will be a good start, besides most of the advertisers, business owners and the like pay more to the most "CREDIBLE" and "RELIABLE" Product Reviews and Rating companies. 

For sure. I agree with you. Everyone pays for a reliable and credible reviews but what if  they pay and expect to get a good and positive review as i think every company wants and later on just get negative but honest reviews, will they still be happy about it?
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They have to have restrictions with regards to the helpers. Having helpers is one of the advantage of this platform compared to others.
Those helpers are the reviewers which they call helpers but they are actually employed as reviewers and get paid as reviewers. These helpers are carefully handpicked and most are from regular users who’ve been proven to make good and quality reviews. For sure other company also have helpers.
newbie
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As I read in the white paper about this project,
it states that the lina project is a kind of platform in which we as a consumer can have a transparent review of a certain product or services but how can I make sure that the reviews of the Lina project are credible?

The Lina Token (LINA) is the native token of the Lina Platform. It will be ERC-20 token based on Ethereum, a blockchain-based decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference to facilitate online contractual agreements in a cryptographically secure manner.

Which means you don't need to worry about the capability of Lina due to lina review if I am not mistaken will address issues related to transparency and immutability of the score, as well as develop mechanism to help users and experts earn profits based on system development and the quality of their reviews. I guess this will answer your question sir, where this is base on my understanding according to their whitepaper.




i am not satisfied to your statement, token issues is not the main thing that @s31joemhar wants to hear. It is the transparency of the reviews on the platform itself. company or product owners may not give a solicit to LINA, though company that places their product or establishments to LINA reviews can be not fair due to companies and personnel who owns the products for review can pay for people to boost the product credibility? we don't need to ask how this can happen as we in this forum knows how to earn money by boosting up ones campaign of ICO.

However great the idea is, LInA still has its flaws. They guarantee that the reviews posted on their site can't be tampered with since they are using blockchain technology. But if you think about it, most of the reviews aren't posted impromptu or done without earlier planning or preparation. The Reviewers or Helpers prepare a review then will post it at a later time. I just hope and urge LINA team to somehow empower their Reviewers and Helpers to prevent them from posting an unfair and bias reviews. A great compensation I think will be a good start, besides most of the advertisers, business owners and the like pay more to the most "CREDIBLE" and "RELIABLE" Product Reviews and Rating companies. 


Other than the compensation they will receive, the platform itself is standardized. That way, reviewers would be able to systematically write their reviews based on the criteria available on the platform.
sr. member
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One of the main problems in terms of review is having lack of criteria people who are giving reviews doesnt have any standards in terms or criticing a certain brand or  the product itself in this case the reviewer will be having some difficulties in which product she or he will purchase but in lina project in its platforms states that in every product or services there will be a particular standard given for the reviewer or for the costumers who purchased the pruducts.

Well, I think this is not the case. Have you read the whitepaper? I think Helpers will be the main source of qualified reviews. If you read the whitepaper, the Helpers will be required to submit their CV and credentials to see their qualification as a reviewer. This itself is a good way to screen people who will apply as Helpers. LINA will also undergo the development stage and I think setting criteria for reviews can be set-up during the development stage. LINA developers can also improve the platform during implementation. Continuous improvement is needed in any project, I think the reviewers themselves, Helpers in particular, will be evaluated regularly since they have a share in the fee's payed to LINA for the reviews.

Helper's CV is a good idea for the project, their background will be a big impact on the review of any single product or establishments. but as many people said on this project. how can all the readers have the hundred percent trust to those helpers as we all know that most people doing an online thing are paid? WHAT IF, i own the product and listed it on LINA for the review, yet I contacted some helpers to boost my products review as i can give them some money or bitcoin. This can happen.

We can find in the 2nd column and 6th row of a table on LInA Whitepaper a statement that says "Users can become Helpers if they have many high-quality reviews. Helper may lose their position if there are many poor-quality reviews." The underlined statement means that Helper will also be evaluated by the QA Team of LInA.Review. If they find some irregularities on how the Helper reviews a product, the Helper will lose their position and somehow will be included on the blacklisted list of reviewers. I think they have to think first before getting into trouble.

Therefore there is a restriction in terms of being Helpers, isn't? By the way what kind of post they are going to make aside from constructive or quality? Because, this is not a joke anyway actually.And if they fail, does it mean they will be demote on their position?
Because as we all know they will only become a helper if they are approve by the helper board, right? which means helper board will also the one will decide to demote you, is that right?
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They said the platform is community driven but how? Is that an advantage or a weakness?

I think you understand it wrong sir, the platform cannot be with the community like that, the project will hire their own HELPERS (to make the review).
With these, we can tell that the platform has its own core to make the review FOR the community.
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How great lina.Review is. Many people are come to grief if they do not review some things that they want to have like for example buying products online,you can see only the good quality when you watch it in their video clip,but we do not know the real product behind the camera. We just focus on the result of what we see. But in reality we are not contented of the product that we review when in our hands. Is Lina review will help us regarding this matter?
I supported you on this matter, this is the reality happened actually in most online business. Where that is also the big risk of it, and yet the worst was that once the good is being deliver at your home you cannot opened it until the person who deliver it is not leaving, you can only complain in their online website. Which is Lina.review is the solutions for this things Smiley

You can only open any kind of parcel once you have signed the paper and paid the delivery boy, Remember what ever the thing he is with, if there will be a damage or non.
He has no knowledge with that, you can see the status and finest of the product once you open the box. And yes you are correct you can contact support with this matter.
About this project of LINA.REVIEW, they can only provide the review of the product and some companies or establishments, they are very different with the deliveries.
They can provide you great review with no bias (HOPING) while the deliver will give you the real product and quality.


with the new system that Lina.Review will build it will help all the users and reviewers to give quality reviews to a certain products or services by giving them profit each reviews that they will give and that profit will give motivation for them to produce quality posts.
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How great lina.Review is. Many people are come to grief if they do not review some things that they want to have like for example buying products online,you can see only the good quality when you watch it in their video clip,but we do not know the real product behind the camera. We just focus on the result of what we see. But in reality we are not contented of the product that we review when in our hands. Is Lina review will help us regarding this matter?
I supported you on this matter, this is the reality happened actually in most online business. Where that is also the big risk of it, and yet the worst was that once the good is being deliver at your home you cannot opened it until the person who deliver it is not leaving, you can only complain in their online website. Which is Lina.review is the solutions for this things Smiley

You can only open any kind of parcel once you have signed the paper and paid the delivery boy, Remember what ever the thing he is with, if there will be a damage or non.
He has no knowledge with that, you can see the status and finest of the product once you open the box. And yes you are correct you can contact support with this matter.
About this project of LINA.REVIEW, they can only provide the review of the product and some companies or establishments, they are very different with the deliveries.
They can provide you great review with no bias (HOPING) while the deliver will give you the real product and quality.
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A single negative review can damage the company's prestige and profitability. So how could Lina.Review can tell if a certain review is not bias?

I guess these reviews can only be posted by helpers, and these helpers undergo qualifications before they can be appointed being a helper, so let us call that filtering process, and saying negative review as long as they have proof about it will never be biased and will help customers a lot and at the same time making the product owner to enhance their service and make more quality products.

So it means reviews written by common users to a certain business company are being filtered and approved first before it appears on their profile?
And after the filtering what are they going to do with the negative ones, hide or dispose?

Why would they need to hide a negative review? If this is the case the transparency is useless. LINA review is not about positive reviews. It is about using blockchain technology, qualifying the reviewers and giving the most reliable review on the market. Only when companies learn to accept criticism that they can grow. As for the common users review this may also be reflected but I think the helpers review will be used in rating the product being reviewed. Again, blockchain technology helps us trace the source of the reviews but the main thing here is hiring qualified reviewers, HELPERS, based on their qualification.
I agree that they are lack on transparency. if they keep hiding negative reviews then is useless. Blockchain is build for transparency,reliable and cability. I'm reviewing their whitepaper devs should update on this.

What could be the main purpose of Helpers? I mean are they are the one moderating the Lina.Review's website?
Yes the helpers are moderator of every review. But the main purpose of the helper is to make an original post about the criticism, suggestion and comment wether good or bad in goods and services offered by a firm.
Moderation is a helpful way to enhance the reliability of the lina review. It can ease the review fraud.

For the moderating part, that would be the community: helpers, users, the helper board and the devs/bug fixers. The system is community based, user based, exact review system will depend on user configuration. They already said there will be a like/agree button, I believe there will be more.

They said the platform is community driven but how? Is that an advantage or a weakness?
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