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Topic: ANN Mandatory update FLAP FINAL Miners to share BILLIONS of Coins 10 days !SWAP! - page 6. (Read 40440 times)

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At present, the attention of the project is still not enough, and the project group will have more money and effort on the promotion.
newbie
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Can somebody tell what will happen now with coins hanging on the coinsmarket?
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And did any of the developers contact the TradeSatoshi exchange to submit an update?
Huh?
full member
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And did any of the developers contact the TradeSatoshi exchange to submit an update?
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I AND THE COMMUNITY COULD USE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHY YOU CHOOSE TO ADD 347 BILLION PREMINED COIN INTO THE MIX. A SOLID ANSWER WILL BE APPRECIATED
Apologies, the number 347 billion came from my misreading of the code when the 5.5 fork initially landed. The actual 10000000-coin block reward section from last weekend seems to sum to 17.8 billion coins, and it was not a pre-mine. You can see the current and upcoming block rewards on the Wordpress site. Given I've been wrong before, I'd appreciate more eyes on the code to check the math and we can correct the site as needed.

As I've understood it, each block reward increase was placed in order to entice miners to join in and strengthen the coin's network, basically the same as the previous hard fork (4.1). Islapdonkey, I agree with you that the fork could have used more transparency, and Flapmin has apologized for how messy this one has been.

Hello! Has anyone tried to send coins to the exchange? in the wallet exchange come?
If you're asking about TradeSatoshi, you can log in and then view https://tradesatoshi.com/Status
As long as it says:
>  FLAP    1070204   4010000   30   1      Maintenance   re check

This means it's still on the 4.1 chain (client version 4010000) and stuck at block 1070204. Until this is resolved, although you can still trade on TradeSatoshi you cannot withdraw nor deposit FLAP. cryptohub.online is on the Flappy 5.5 chain and moving, so you can use that exchange in the meantime.
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Hello! Has anyone tried to send coins to the exchange? in the wallet exchange come?

Not with flappy (because all my flappys were in Coinsmarkets) but with a few other coins I have
tested out deposits. I have send them in January and this weekend they arrived.
That means that they did a first coin scan in this weekend and that is a good sign.

CryptoCoinsCity.
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Hello! Has anyone tried to send coins to the exchange? in the wallet exchange come?
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"

Could you address this plz

"ALSO THATS A LOT OF COINS ADDED INTO THE MIX, I BOUGHT THIS OFF COINSMARKETS ON A WHIM, AND EVENTHOUGH I ONLY OWN ABOUT 50MIL COINS, I AND THE COMMUNITY COULD USE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHY YOU CHOOSE TO ADD 347 BILLION PREMINED COIN INTO THE MIX. A SOLID ANSWER WILL BE APPRECIATED, AND A DETAILED INSTRUCTION ON HOW YOU PLAN TO UTILIZE THOSE COIN, PLUS HOPEFULLY A SOLID ESCROW THAT WILL BE A MANAGING THE COIN. I KNOW CRYPTO MIGHT GIVE THE ILLUSION THAT YOU CAN PRINT MONEY OFF THE AIR SOMETIME, BUT WHEN I AND SEVERAL OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAVE MONEY ON THE LINE, WE EXPECT SOME PROTOCOLS TO BE IN PLACE. AS FOR MY CHOICE TO USE BOLD LETTERS, YES YOU ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT AM YELLING! 347 BILLION COINS IS NO SMALL AMOUNT. SO PLZ PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH MORE INFO, RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS AND WHO IS IN LOOP, THOSE COMMENTS DO NOT EXPLAIN WHY THE 347 BILLION COINS WHERE CREATED"
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
Hey team,

A few of us have been in touch with Flapmin to ask about the fork's strangely inserted pre-mine. Per the code linked by wailord284, these three lines were used to add more than 347 billion pre-mined coins onto a chain that from four years ago until now reached a 97.5 billion total supply. Flapmin's story has changed from this being necessary to raise funds to pay a future developer team, to not knowing that these payouts were there until we pointed it out to him today, to saying he noticed it on the first day of mining (see above post) yet he kept on mining for weeks prior to the v5.5 release. (That's right: according to the math it takes more than 24 days to mine this 34,695-block massive payout section.)

Yes, we have plenty of chat logs if you require proof. However, it is not our intention to damage Flapmin's reputation more so than he has done to himself. As a community our priority should be working together to save Flappycoin and continue making it great.

That's why I'm encouraging all of you to stick to the Flappy 4.1 wallets. Having users switch onto the newly forked chain would not merely result in coins that are of 4.5x less value due to inflation. Rather, the coins on the new chain would be orders of magnitude closer to worthless. All legitimate exchanges require coins to disclose pre-mines and have sufficient code auditing to ensure such broken coins do not get on there.

If you have been holding out for a swap to PoS and believe this sacrifice is worthwhile to get there, that may be in vain as well. You can take a look at the code diffs yourself, and post here if you spot any changes related to supporting PoS now or in the future.

We'll continue maintaining the Flappy 4.1 wallets and all ecosystem links (block explorer, pools) on the Wordpress site:

http://flappyco.in
or https://flappycoins.wordpress.com

On the bright side the forked wallets do have some improvements, particularly the new snazzy artwork by DaGoOfMan. We won't be losing this all, as I expect to incorporate the new graphical assets into an upcoming Flappy "4.2" wallet. Watch the above site, this thread, and the Flappycoin subreddit to stay abreast of developments.


look you have already been caught. having a WordPress site and playing dev doesn't make your delusion true you guys are on a fork that YOU have been developing on all by yourself . you are forking intentionally from a beta that you tinker with , this is the second time you have forked the chain , please leave the chain alone till after the swap you are out of the loop and your website has never been listed as an official anything .... ever  you leave old info up there add your own with what you THINK is going on but you have no clue .proof of you being out of the loop is the 40 nodes we had to put up to unfuck what you did again . if you were in the loop you would have had a new wallet before the users , i dont have time to play troll but its just you guys on the chain and BTW wailord284 is a nice guy and you have made him an acessory to a malicious attack against the netwok , your caling out people left in right talking shit about them , I KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD , they have been asking for you to be booted for a long time ive been being polite to you

ALSO THATS A LOT OF COINS ADDED INTO THE MIX, I BOUGHT THIS OFF COINSMARKETS ON A WHIM, AND EVENTHOUGH I ONLY OWN ABOUT 50MIL COINS, I AND THE COMMUNITY COULD USE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHY YOU CHOOSE TO ADD 347 BILLION PREMINED COIN INTO THE MIX. A SOLID ANSWER WILL BE APPRECIATED, AND A DETAILED INSTRUCTION ON HOW YOU PLAN TO UTILIZE THOSE COIN, PLUS HOPEFULLY A SOLID ESCROW THAT WILL BE A MANAGING THE COIN. I KNOW CRYPTO MIGHT GIVE THE ILLUSION THAT YOU CAN PRINT MONEY OFF THE AIR SOMETIME, BUT WHEN I AND SEVERAL OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAVE MONEY ON THE LINE, WE EXPECT SOME PROTOCOLS TO BE IN PLACE. AS FOR MY CHOICE TO USE BOLD LETTERS, YES YOU ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT AM YELLING! 347 BILLION COINS IS NO SMALL AMOUNT. SO PLZ PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH MORE INFO, RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS AND WHO IS IN LOOP, THOSE COMMENTS DO NOT EXPLAIN WHY THE 347 BILLION COINS WHERE CREATED
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
CoinsMarket BS
We have a plan to again rescue the flappys
If Coinmarkets has taken your flappy I can help you... However i need you to ASAP
get a screen shot of your flappy balence and a copy paste of the address ...!!!at the end of the swap!!,
if your coins have not been returned  I will replace them ,You need to have those two things to claim your coins no exceptions !!!!
Put them up for safe keeping, we are going to have to build a UI to collect them from you at a later point.
i will say once again no site that stakes users coins has ever ended well


Whats up with this comment "i will say once again no site that stakes users coins has ever ended well" wasn't it your decision to list the coin in that exchange?
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After starting Flappy Wallet, ESET is warning me because of -> Win32/CoinMiner.BJ
Why? I never got this warning with any other Wallet.
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BSV is Bitcoin
I not understand nothing, I’m watching two diferents “official sites” one in telegram and other in discord, initially I’m understand one say not update wallet and other say to update, I had Flap in a discord tipbot and yesterday was hidden and blocked about a mandatory fork, my English it’s so bad and not understand nothing is happening, I have flaps in other place and not know we’re to send it because I’m not sure if I can lost it wherever I send.
Anyone can explain what’s happened without show code or links for watch more code plz. Thanks

Edit: Last that post i was adviced from telegram as Discord group and Telegram are the same Team and nothing strange its happend.
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MANDATORY UPDATE to 5.5.5.0
Flappy Core 5 has become a mandatory update
Please do not use the links at Wordpress untill they are updated .

These are official Downloads, Wallets, and Bootstrap
https://www.crypto-city.com/index.php/forum/thread/178/flappycoin-downloads/




Join the conversation on


https://discord.gg/qUuuSVR
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great project and looking forward to this project to have a big success in the near future. goodluck to this project and goodluck to dev.
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Hey just looking around this update and I was wondering why we decided to add 347 billion more flap into this update https://github.com/Flapmin/Flaps/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1248-L1252 ? I thought this was supposed to be a temporary wallet before switching to PoS within the next few weeks. Just looking for some clarification and hopefully we can work through this weird fork

Its for dev flapmin to pay for da crack... no worries Wink


we had a horrible horrible horrible fork  in my haste to stop it some shit code made it in there things wil normalize at block 1088888 or in like 2-3 days
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Hey guys, after a long weekend I have some breaking news here and I would like to apologize to bring us closer to a resolution.

Thanks to Chicago from Mincoin, we got some good eyes on the code and it's different when you expand out four lines: https://github.com/Flapmin/Flaps/blob/9acd232035ec35e72a22ac999038a8e77a660b9e/src/main.cpp#L1244-L1252

Code:
    else if(nHeight < 1036860)
    {
        nSubsidy =  420000 * COIN;
    }
    else if(nHeight < 1036860)
    {
        nSubsidy = 10000000 * COIN;
    }
    else if(nHeight < 1071555)

See that? Due to the copypaste error the second block never gets hit, saving us from an unwanted expansion of 347 billion coins.

Below that, the additional block reward changes in this fork are questionable, including a hot zone where miners will receive 65 billion worth of coins in the near term. However, increasing mining rewards has been the case for the last several Flappycoin forks in order to generate buzz. As this is not a pre-mine and not quadrupling the supply, it is not worth dividing the community over. We might as well go forward with the Flappy 5.5 fork.

We'll be removing the red alert from the Wordpress site shortly, and over the coming days update some links to better coordinate people to migrate to the new chain. Note there's plenty of work ahead such as migrating our block explorers and even providing a Mac wallet, so this won't happen instantly. Hopefully we can start mending now. Apologies to Flapmin, and others who did their part to ask good questions then ended up getting banned from Discord for it.


dude we were past the blocks that were added it was a mistake and hes it upsets me that we have bad blood I  dont know you and you dont know me but alot of people do and if you would ask around ive already replaced coins from the pool , and ive already replace Cryptsy coins and im replacing Coins markets coins , ive no reason to take anything from anyone , when i picked up flappy i had even used linux before , so yea i fuck up some times that why i try and engage people who know more then i do  I hope to hear from you in pm soon
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I believe in the project! Thanks to the organizers!
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Hey guys, after a long weekend I have some breaking news here and I would like to apologize to bring us closer to a resolution.

Thanks to Chicago (Xieta) from Mincoin, we got some good eyes on the code and it's different when you expand out four lines: https://github.com/Flapmin/Flaps/blob/9acd232035ec35e72a22ac999038a8e77a660b9e/src/main.cpp#L1244-L1252

Code:
    else if(nHeight < 1036860)
    {
        nSubsidy =  420000 * COIN;
    }
    else if(nHeight < 1036860)
    {
        nSubsidy = 10000000 * COIN;
    }
    else if(nHeight < 1071555)

See that? Due to the copypaste error the second block never gets hit, saving us from an unwanted expansion of 347 billion coins.

Below that, the additional block reward changes in this fork are questionable, including a hot zone where miners receive 65 17.8 billion coins in the near term (edit: corrected similar calculation error, use these lines). However, increasing mining rewards has been the case for the last several Flappycoin forks in order to generate buzz. As this is not a pre-mine and not quadrupling the supply, it is not worth dividing the community over. We might as well go forward with the Flappy 5.5 fork.

We'll be removing the red alert from the Wordpress site shortly, and over the coming days update some links to better coordinate people to migrate to the new chain. Note there's plenty of work ahead such as migrating our block explorers and even providing a Mac wallet, so this won't happen instantly. Hopefully we can start mending now. Apologies to Flapmin, and others who did their part to ask good questions then ended up getting banned from Discord for it.
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Hey team,

A few of us have been in touch with Flapmin to ask about the fork's strangely inserted pre-mine. Per the code linked by wailord284, these three lines were used to add more than 347 billion pre-mined coins onto a chain that from four years ago until now reached a 97.5 billion total supply. Flapmin's story has changed from this being necessary to raise funds to pay a future developer team, to not knowing that these payouts were there until we pointed it out to him today, to saying he noticed it on the first day of mining (see above post) yet he kept on mining for weeks prior to the v5.5 release. (That's right: according to the math it takes more than 24 days to mine this 34,695-block massive payout section.)

Yes, we have plenty of chat logs if you require proof. However, it is not our intention to damage Flapmin's reputation more so than he has done to himself. As a community our priority should be working together to save Flappycoin and continue making it great.

That's why I'm encouraging all of you to stick to the Flappy 4.1 wallets. Having users switch onto the newly forked chain would not merely result in coins that are of 4.5x less value due to inflation. Rather, the coins on the new chain would be orders of magnitude closer to worthless. All legitimate exchanges require coins to disclose pre-mines and have sufficient code auditing to ensure such broken coins do not get on there.

If you have been holding out for a swap to PoS and believe this sacrifice is worthwhile to get there, that may be in vain as well. You can take a look at the code diffs yourself, and post here if you spot any changes related to supporting PoS now or in the future.

We'll continue maintaining the Flappy 4.1 wallets and all ecosystem links (block explorer, pools) on the Wordpress site:

http://flappyco.in
or https://flappycoins.wordpress.com

On the bright side the forked wallets do have some improvements, particularly the new snazzy artwork by DaGoOfMan. We won't be losing this all, as I expect to incorporate the new graphical assets into an upcoming Flappy "4.2" wallet. Watch the above site, this thread, and the Flappycoin subreddit to stay abreast of developments.


look you have already been caught. having a WordPress site and playing dev doesn't make your delusion true you guys are on a fork that YOU have been developing on all by yourself . you are forking intentionally from a beta that you tinker with , this is the second time you have forked the chain , please leave the chain alone till after the swap you are out of the loop and your website has never been listed as an official anything .... ever  you leave old info up there add your own with what you THINK is going on but you have no clue .proof of you being out of the loop is the 40 nodes we had to put up to unfuck what you did again . if you were in the loop you would have had a new wallet before the users , i dont have time to play troll but its just you guys on the chain and BTW wailord284 is a nice guy and you have made him an acessory to a malicious attack against the netwok , your caling out people left in right talking shit about them , I KNOW ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD , they have been asking for you to be booted for a long time ive been being polite to you


Actually, he seems to be pointing out that YOU have already been caught trying to bilk the community.
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