Topic: [ANN] Maples -Update to V1.1-POS/POW- Pools - Explorer - Download Now - page 2. (Read 14389 times)

Without prying into how many MPL everyone holds; what about a faucet to get peoples attention?

The patch to get mining working again is easy - 30 sec to update the source - but recompiling the EXE for Windows is going to be more involved. It would also cause a hard fork, with those still using the old clients continuing on a separate (incompatible) chain of PoS only blocks... but given how quiet MPL is I don't think that's going to be a big issue.

I'm hoping to fiddle around with a Windows compile for another coin sometime soonish; if I can figure that out then I'll do it for MPL too. I have to figure out github too. Or perhaps someone who's already familiar with compiling coins for Windows could help?

My client is at block 47435 right now.
I seem to be getting some 0.05xx Maples POS every now and than. Mining does not seem to be possible.

Is there a way to patch the source and fix the negative target spacing problem mentioned by almightyruler?
My guess is that there is no dev for Maples so we who hold this coin would have to do this ourselves?

My block number is now at 47401.

I had a PoS on the 23rd, sadly it started with a zero.

One time I had a DMD show up after that wallet had been opened for a few days (without any mining) - My MPL wallet has been open more or less non stop since about November (with only two one week at a time where it hasn't been open).

I can't seem to solo mine and there's no pools that I'm aware of, so I'll just have to sit any wait for the grass to grow.

Regards,

JG5EmumHEpxvmKtudQ5BnbwerkP1tED77A

It's your lucky day. I've just sent you a whopping 16.048774 MPL (the entire balance on my "lucky" PoS client) to test that the 8+ MPL PoS blocks I won earlier are spendable on the network.

txid 4b782880da0925a77a46dd0691362dcffe7673504b8caeb5526f3ca72b4b6d19 - looks like it's gone through, just needs some confirms.

Bummer. No 8 MPL for you. I do note that your blocks on 27/12/2013 are PoS (not scrypt mined PoW) and of a sizeable amount, though.

My PoS blocks today are definitely 8+, although still showing as immature (oldest one with 39 confirms) [edit: now 40 confirms, changed from immature to generate, and balance gone up by 8.03ish]

I wonder if there's some weird bug that only kicks in and causes this behaviour when the network is made up of only a few nodes.

Will continue monitoring but I guess things are not going to be quite what I thought. I was all set to start handing out small amounts of MPL to help kick start the elitist chicken and egg network.

Up to 46180 now.

Very interested to know what shows up in the transaction list for the people who won those blocks. 8+ MPL immature, or 0.0xxxx MPL immature?

JEAfL23m6WVBx1z2tKHfaLeNNuQhjTv6Qs


 Thanks you

The client has finally sync'd and there have been 2 PoS blocks since.

This brings us to block 46179.

Thanks


That's the height I'm showing. Looks like I was generating most of the PoS blocks, both today and around 25 days ago (when I last had the client running), but there have been a few others showing up. I was hoping you and a couple of others that seem to have started up would generate further blocks, but nothing seems to be happening yet.

Looks like 46174 was the last one my client minted, around 4 hours ago, so there's still at least one other client generating PoS blocks. I guess we just wait. Make sure you leave your client open AND unlocked!

edit: 46177 was JUST generated
followed by 46178 a few mins later

So who's the lucky winner, and what is your transaction list showing?

1200 MPL SENT !

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 1 node
Date: 22/01/2014 23:56
To: almightyruler J8gD6r9GFKHacuDDcqckeozrcPyvGMqthE
Debit: -1200.00 MPL
Transaction fee: -8.503445 MPL
Net amount: -1208.503445 MPL
Transaction ID: 1a9e4a8eedbdf7e208d15ca500d8886e4defe557f7434ee71e16b01aed2b7283

Btw, this negative target spacing problem coin was copy'n'pasted by the, not so great, muddafudda.

edit

Its seems stuck at block 46176.

If my investigation does prove to be accurate, and it's possible to mint "normal" amounts of coin simply by running the client with some balance, things could become very interesting for this coin.

Unfortunately I only noticed the strange situation once I'd sent my entire balance to another address/client, so I guess that means I won't be generating any PoS blocks for a while.

For those of you who have any MPL at all, please start your clients - you do NOT need to mine - then wait patiently to see if it starts minting 8 MPL blocks. See the previous msg for some peers to connect to.

Cheers for that - J8gD6r9GFKHacuDDcqckeozrcPyvGMqthE (ignore the above guy fishing for free coin )

Here's some active peers:

addnode=37.147.237.133
addnode=85.17.81.164
addnode=69.147.229.226
addnode=135.23.75.58
addnode=203.20.114.252
addnode=207.61.182.205
addnode=135.23.75.58
addnode=5.76.175.139
addnode=135.23.75.58

JGNhZKBb3p9SWzWcbwMnhUPwCSPTq9z821

If you compare Maple's code with the codes of COL, BUCK and others, I'm sure you'll find similar anomolies.

I can't think of a better way to manipulate a coin's availability and market value. Can you ?

Please accept my tip of 1200 MPL, for your this very informative information. (Thats if the client ever connects. lol)

UPDATE:

Looks like this coin has also fallen victim to the negative target spacing problem that has plagued many other coins recently; however, this one seems to have failed much earlier. Last proof-of-work block was accepted around 8th October 2013. scrypt/proof-of-work mining would have stopped working at this time.

I tried a short run of test mining and the behaviour is identical to the other coins such as ADT, CDC, ORB etc which have the same bug: miner finds a block, but the client quietly ignores it, never announcing it to the network.

There is one strange difference I've noticed when compared to the other failed coins. My client appears to be minting proof-of-stake blocks that are of the same value (8+ Maples) as a proof-of-work block, but the network is reporting the expected smaller amounts of a proof-of-stake win (0.03 or lower)

My client says I generated this block and was granted 8.03843900:

    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "generate",
        "amount" : 8.03843900,
        "confirmations" : 172,
        "generated" : true,
        "blockhash" : "da42cd01bd50a31fa62dc92f88193b8b4cdcc8120ff4db293659a755b257610e",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "blocktime" : 1388184041,
        "txid" : "29eb59bd78293fd17fd0158d08593144ae25e6c664c26b9d82a2930e23c21ad7",
        "time" : 1388184041,
        "tx-comment" : "",
        "timereceived" : 1388184041
    },

But viewing block da42cd01bd50a31fa62dc92f88193b8b4cdcc8120ff4db293659a755b257610e directly, says the network only minted 0.01440100, and that it's a proof-of-stake block:

{
    "hash" : "da42cd01bd50a31fa62dc92f88193b8b4cdcc8120ff4db293659a755b257610e",
    "confirmations" : 172,
    "size" : 415,
    "height" : 46004,
    "version" : 4,
    "merkleroot" : "7638ccb3f2fa211653a77928d019f45c5a0555d1bfe3f66d64b507c9d8fef445",
    "mint" : 0.01440100,
    "time" : 1388184041,
    "nonce" : 0,
    "bits" : "1e00ffff",
    "difficulty" : 0.00390625,
    "previousblockhash" : "095fa298f1eace4692d139b1c48e9dd350b4a6711228b798bd596754e4c18ed2",
    "nextblockhash" : "9d3a5853df07ba76f20bdd821b110a34ecd8f135d27cf086cd985c62b1795388",
    "flags" : "proof-of-stake stake-modifier",
    "proofhash" : "000005537eec502ca34a408317da3ab33c263ee8b5f3aef755eb5e1968b143ce",
    "entropybit" : 0,
    "modifier" : "07c26fe21ffac077",
    "modifierchecksum" : "30498a3c",
    "tx" : [
        "8d71db4788c75d7411b9c72a65db33d9291dd1384ec180a9a979db87e7dbf496",
        "29eb59bd78293fd17fd0158d08593144ae25e6c664c26b9d82a2930e23c21ad7"
    ],
    "signature" : "3046022100dd3507628db2f9175f39083ab1b2fb74f78988e097a97db5be0c3508a5be5a8602210 0e13af2a5cef9e1257ad5b7e7ed61f89b1b70fa5151e706e482131fbff1f981fa"
}

So although Maples can't be directly mined right now, it looks like those who hold a balance and keep their client running may be still able to mint normal block amounts. (?!) My balance is increasing, and I was able to send the entire amount to another address (which I realise now I shouldn't have done - no more PoS for a while!), so it looks like those 8+ PoS numbers my client is reporting are real.

I guess that leaves us in a weird elitist chicken and egg situation where you already need to have coins, in order to be able to generate new coins. Mind blown.

No, the miners get transaction fees when they win a block and include new transactions in it.

Started up maples today and I see that things aren't much different from 2 months ago... where is everyone?

Hey Thanks again, - last silly question for now - does being a Node mean the fee's paid for transactions whizzing backwards and forwards get divvied up amongst the Nodes it speeds past?

If you have the wallet open and are connected to other nodes, then yes, you become a node.