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Topic: [ANN] MCG - Market Control Group - Accepting New Members - page 5. (Read 14436 times)

legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
LOL another iconic expert's scam
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Just bring on the FUD and posting childish pictures here, it actually don't bothers me. You will see who was right soon.

Jimmy

"your" group will do a big dump and YOU don't know when exactly? LOL
member
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LOL another iconic expert's scam
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Just bring on the FUD and posting childish pictures here, it actually don't bothers me. You will see who was right soon.

Jimmy
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo
LOL another iconic expert's scam
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member
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For those of you who have been doubting my credibility I just made a call on Stealth Coin thread that the dump is coming within 24 hours (actually it might happen in less than 12 hours). Here is the link to my original post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.new#new
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An update as of 21st September 4.45 am GMT:

So far 5 people have sent me PMs indicating that they want to join the group, and we are in the process of sorting this out. They didn't want to post here so as not to compromise and expose their accounts. I understand that.

For those of you who wish to post your intentions here, it is fine if you use a new account, or if you do not want to use your old account - send me a PM, and we will get the ball rolling.

After a brief discussion, the group has decided that at this point we are not going to recruit more than 12 people in total. In the coming weeks and months another recruiting event might start, but right now we only have 7 spots left.

Jimmy Zed

3 spots left. We will be closing this round of recruiting within 24 hours. The next one might happen in a month or two, but definitely before the end of this year so - November, December the latest.

Jimmy
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An update as of 21st September 4.45 am GMT:

So far 5 people have sent me PMs indicating that they want to join the group, and we are in the process of sorting this out. They didn't want to post here so as not to compromise and expose their accounts. I understand that.

For those of you who wish to post your intentions here, it is fine if you use a new account, or if you do not want to use your old account - send me a PM, and we will get the ball rolling.

After a brief discussion, the group has decided that at this point we are not going to recruit more than 12 people in total. In the coming weeks and months another recruiting event might start, but right now we only have 7 spots left.

Jimmy Zed
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If 2/3 involved in the other pumps is understandable. But if not, why only the 1/3 since the worst thing that can happen -20-30%?
Сan you announce your profits from the beginning of the work (in % with amount of months and pumps)?

And the ethical side of the issue. I can see how some of the pumpers lie the others: spreading FUD at the collection stage, and inspiring the others, promising them "to the moon" when they leave. What about your group? This is an essential feature of each pump?

To answer your first question. I don't keep all of my eggs in one basket - and I would never risk all my bitcoins on a single pump or multiple pumps happening at the same time. The reasons are obvious - as I said unpredictable things can happen, and no, 20-30% is not the worst thing that can happen. Theoretically you can lose all your btc you have in the play, although the chances for this are very high, it is not impossible.

Our profits in the last 12 months are total of approximately 700%. Average would be 60-65% a month. Some months are better than others, some months you double up, some months you don't get anything.

Regarding your last question about hyping up the coin. IMO it is not the essential feature of the pump. The most important thing is to pick the right coin at the right time - when it is already ripe to go up - and once the people see an dramatic increase in volume and % up, they will naturally want to join in. But that said, if you wanna tweet or post on btctalk while the pump is happening, it's up to you - it cannot hurt the pump, but I personally do not engage in it.

Jimmy Zed
hero member
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Imagine trying to exit with 100+ BTC per person, that is madness and it would almost always fail. This way the risk is spread out over 20-30 ppl, and it makes it easier on each one of us. And it makes it much more likely that the play will work.
What is technically difference between exit of one person with 100 BTC and 5 person with 20 BTC? The same amount of BTC. More work for everyone? But the reward above.

I do not put more than 1/3 of all my BTC into a pump - never. We have allocated that the optimal amount per member is 30 btc to maximum 50 btc.
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We are realistic, some pumps you can double up (but it is not common), most are satisfied with 50% profit, and sometimes unexpected things happens (the other groups joins, etc) and you can be 20-30% down.
If 2/3 involved in the other pumps is understandable. But if not, why only the 1/3 since the worst thing that can happen -20-30%?
Сan you announce your profits from the beginning of the work (in % with amount of months and pumps)?

And the ethical side of the issue. I can see how some of the pumpers lie the others: spreading FUD at the collection stage, and inspiring the others, promising them "to the moon" when they leave. What about your group? This is an essential feature of each pump?
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1. As I understand you need new members only for new BTC? Why you can not earn the money yourself? I thought pumps is very profitable. Some pumpers promise almost the doubling of funds.
2. Can you prove possession of the amount of 30-50 BTC by members? For example, to sign the message from different addresses?
3. Can you provide some examples of your work?


You obviously don't have a clue how these things work. Only a fool will put up all his BTC into a single pump. I do not put more than 1/3 of all my BTC into a pump - never. We have allocated that the optimal amount per member is 30 btc to maximum 50 btc.

You know how much work and how much fresh btc it takes to exit with 40-50 btc per person? A lot.

Imagine trying to exit with 100+ BTC per person, that is madness and it would almost always fail. This way the risk is spread out over 20-30 ppl, and it makes it easier on each one of us. And it makes it much more likely that the play will work.

We are not giving out promises of doubling or tripling your stacks, we are not into selling fog. We are realistic, some pumps you can double up (but it is not common), most are satisfied with 50% profit, and sometimes unexpected things happens (the other groups joins, etc) and you can be 20-30% down. So nobody is promising anything here, we are realistic about our abilities and about our future capabilities.

Jimmy Zed
hero member
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I'm a member of an anonymous and nameless group - until now, that has been part of these plays for cca 12 months now. The group is under 10 members - with each one stacked on average between 30-50 btc (the amount of btc they have for "plays"). So the group's core bankroll is 300-500 btc , which is more than enough to control a coin with a market cap under 1 million.

We have decided to expand our operations and are looking for new members. The maximum number of total members (including the original and new members) will be capped at 30.
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1. As I understand you need new members only for new BTC? Why you can not earn the money yourself? I thought pumps is very profitable. Some pumpers promise almost the doubling of funds.
2. Can you prove possession of the amount of 30-50 BTC by members? For example, to sign the message from different addresses?
3. Can you provide some examples of your work?
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ROFL. The illuminati return.

1) How often do you guys dump on eachother? Like, 99% of time?


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3. 1.5 BTC application fee (one time only, no monthly fees)
This is total bullshit.
If your group was worth of something, you'd be charging real fees. Periodically.

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Please post your intentions, questions, critiques, attacks, FUD and whatever you want. And yeah I am using a newbie account for the obvious reason - I don't want to expose my old account, just to answer your potential question on this.
Totally fine, using newbie accounts.

Even "known" pumpers on twitter scam people for BTC1-2. The entire crypto scene is a big scam. The first ones who pump coins are scammers themselves.


Anyway, good luck and wish you the best.

/FUD off Roll Eyes

agree 。
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I will join if fee 0.01  Grin
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actually - those who know aren't saying and don't share their information especially with someone who wields an equivalent sword.

I completely agree . Absolutely spot on observation.

Jimmy Zed
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If you think I'm gonna give you $600 for you decide if I'm worthy of being called your equal, your mistaken.

When you put it this way it sounds as if you're going to have to defend yourself in the court. You understand that these are the measures we have to take - otherwise there would be an influx of so many people and we couldn't handle that.

Maybe I put it the wrong way in my previous posts, it is not as if you are going to be on trial. This area is full of con-men. We need to make sure to protect ourselves. You might be leaking our info, or you might be working covertly for another group. Things like that. But the atmosphere is not military style, as I said 30 day is maximum ,and if the group agrees that you can be an asset to us - we can make you a full member in two weeks time.


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If you were to offer a no-fee 30 day try-out, I might consider it.

Impossible because of the reasons outlined above. We couldn't handle the influx of hundreds of people or even more. Just being honest here. Need max 20 people. That doesn't mean the group will aim to get 20 people, we might get only 8 or 10 or 12. I don't know it depends on our judgement.

But I need to emphasize that you would not be treated as an inferior to the original members during the probationary period.

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What track record do you have? Why should I join your group?

Track record is not public obviously - I cannot and will not brag about what we have done. But as I already said our focus has been coins with a market cap under 1 million USD, we feel it is time to step up the ladder and get engaged with coins that have market cap of several million usd. This still might be nothing for some huge whales out there, but it would be more than enough for us, trust me.

Nobody is forcing you to join the group. I am here to discuss and answer your questions, not to force you to join the group.

Jimmy Zed
sr. member
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Saved you from a scam? Send me some BTC!
If you think I'm gonna give you $600 for you decide if I'm worthy of being called your equal, your mistaken.

If you were to offer a no-fee 30 day try-out, I might consider it.

You need my bitcoins, you need to offer something in return. Not a half-baked promise of maybe being accepted in a months time.

What track record do you have? Why should I join your group?
member
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Huge app fee Undecided

It is large enough to weed out the vast majority of undesirable applications. For now it stays at 1.5 BTC, but if there is an influx of applications we shall consider raising it.

Also, read my post again - besides the application fee you need to have at least 20 BTC ready to commit to our next event. So this is going to be the major differentiator between the genuine players and nobodies.

Jimmy Zed
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1.5 BTC application fee?
any advanced plan?

We have short and long term plans outlined. But as I said there are always debates and discussions within the group on what should we change and where should we do better.

Once you join in you will be in our next play - basically learning on your feet. You can ask questions, we are in contact the whole time via various mediums. Nobody is going to preach you or boss you, but if you made an obvious mistake it will be pointed out to you. After 30 days there will be a vote among the original members if you are in for good.

Jimmy Zed
legendary
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Huge app fee Undecided
hero member
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I'm dying.

If your group was worth of something, you'd be charging real fees. Periodically.


And why is that? Give me a concrete reason why should we charge members let's say 1.5 BTC a month?

The whole point of the one time fee is to get serious people in and then decide within a 30 day period if they are worthy to be members of a group of EQUALS.

Who would you be paying a monthly fee to if there is no leader?  You would be paying a fee to yourself which is absurd and complete non-sense.

Jimmy Zed
Are you serious? Is that a serious question?
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